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Old 15 December 2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
It is not an offence, who told you that?

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mate,

ive been in the job for four years.
Old 15 December 2007, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NAY93WRX
mate,

ive been in the job for four years.
But you said it was an offence not to carry your documents, when there is a 7 day period when asked by an officer to produce your documents at a police station. What you said is technically incorrect.

If you can quote me the relevant Act/section to confirm your assertion. I will be glad to read it.
Old 16 December 2007, 07:35 PM
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Never wait in your seat for the plods.

Always get out and go the nearside of your vehicle.

It's a mind ganme thing - puts you on an equal footing - he/she's not looking down on you and you are in a safe place for any conversation with he/she not wondering if you are about to floor it.

Don't let your mates joing in any chat. Their place is to keep shtum, and mind their own business.

Move even further away from you car if they don't realise that their behaviour can make the difference between a chat and a ticket.
Old 16 December 2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by noobyscooby
Never wait in your seat for the plods.

Always get out and go the nearside of your vehicle.

It's a mind ganme thing - puts you on an equal footing - he/she's not looking down on you and you are in a safe place for any conversation with he/she not wondering if you are about to floor it.
Not always strictly true....

When i was pulled over it was very very cold, so i stayed in my nice warm car whilst he stood outside and frooze

1-0 to me i think
Old 16 December 2007, 07:44 PM
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Got pulled last week by a v.nice copper. They'd been following for a while in an unmarked car keeping quite a distance away. I assumed they were idiot chavs or maybe carjackers so I put my foot down.

Coppiceman reckoned that I was doing 100 but "I had evaded his vascar" He didn't tell me how whih is a shame..
Old 16 December 2007, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
Coppiceman reckoned that I was doing 100 but "I had evaded his vascar" He didn't tell me how whih is a shame..


Do you not recognise it when a copper lets you off then? "Evaded his vascar" indeed.


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Old 16 December 2007, 11:29 PM
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Hmmm this is an interesting one.

I once went very very fast and overtook a car in a 40 zone. I got pulled and ended up with 8 points (for one offence) which sounds VERY harsh. But in truth had they got me clocked I would have been banned outright. They asked me to step out of the vehicle because they thought I was going to run, they were not overly pleasent, but they were not too bad either, all in all I cant complain.

The second time I got pulled I was following our lass in her car, she went down a 2+ lane and we only had one person in each car. The copper gave her a producer, and just let me off. He was perfectly reasonable, and to be fair should have penalised us both.

The last time I was in a battered old 306 looking rough because I was just dropping the missus at work and then planned to go back to bed. He got out, checked the tax, asked who owned the car, if I was a named driver - obviously confirmed by his gadgets and let me go, again cant complain.

The only bad experience I have had with the plod was when I was in the middle of a small 'riot' outside a nightclub in Leeds, I was pulling a couple of mates out of the throng, I turned round and a police dog jumped on me... I dont know what happened next but I got out of the crowd with my mates and the dog was nowhere to be seen, sadly I think it got a kicking which is why it got off me. Perhaps more sadly the copper didnt and was last seen wading in to retrieve aforementioned canine.

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Old 16 December 2007, 11:29 PM
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Wow, what is it with all these police related threads recently ?
Are they that bad.............I haven't been pulled for over 15 years and always driven "performance cars"
Old 16 December 2007, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bob r
Wow, what is it with all these police related threads recently ?
Are they that bad.............I haven't been pulled for over 15 years and always driven "performance cars"
yr driving toooo slow bob
Old 17 December 2007, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
But you said it was an offence not to carry your documents, when there is a 7 day period when asked by an officer to produce your documents at a police station. What you said is technically incorrect.

If you can quote me the relevant Act/section to confirm your assertion. I will be glad to read it.

I think you will find he is correct mate. I couldnt give you the exact act or section but it will be there somewhere in the road traffic act or whatever its called. Its technically an offence and thats why you get 7 days to produce then you will be alright. Just the way it is fella..the law at times doesnt make sense but it aint the cops fault..he didnt make it up
Old 18 December 2007, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NAY93WRX
I enjoy public order situations mate...proper adrenaline rush
I`m exactly the same but sit on the other side of the fence as a long standing Hooligan with Leeds United.

As you say proper adrenaline rush, and I`ve been at some good ones like Birmingham 85" & Bournemouth 1990.

More recently, due to the over-Policing at football, I, along with a few friends have been visiting friends in Rome to follow Lazio with them when they have played Roma.

Old 18 December 2007, 06:55 PM
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I've not had an issue with police in general for a while, most of the plod in my area are generally a good bunch of folks.

Being christmas time common sense takes over and as such I have been driving at pedestrian speeds as I know everyone else is too busy trying to park/shop/get out to notice you.

I keep all my documents in a file in my car, when I park up I take them with me, last thing I want is for my car to get nicked and lose my documents with it. I had a surprised look from a copper when was stopped recently, got asked if I had xyz documents and I replied yes I do, right here, the copper was like "oh okay".

I only had problems with the police once out of town. Was on my way back from London Shoot Fighters driving up the A5 through dunstable and I didn't give way to a van pulling out (I had car's up my bumper at this point) so the pulled me over. Got a lot of hassle and one of the plods kept going on at me.. bordering racial harassment but I just kept quiet, answered their questions quickly and walked off with the producer but oh how I wanted to take that copper and teach him a lesson about humility.
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Originally Posted by serpico
I think you will find he is correct mate. I couldnt give you the exact act or section but it will be there somewhere in the road traffic act or whatever its called. Its technically an offence and thats why you get 7 days to produce then you will be alright. Just the way it is fella..the law at times doesnt make sense but it aint the cops fault..he didnt make it up
The Road Traffic Act 1988 allows for 7 days to produce your documents or asap after 7 days as reasonably practical.

164 Power of constables to require production of driving licence and in certain cases statement of date of birth


(6) If a person required under the preceding provisions of this section to produce a licence or state his date of birth to a constable fails to do so he is, subject to subsections (7) and (8) below, guilty of an offence.
(7) Subsection (6) above does not apply where a person required on any occasion under the preceding provisions of this section to produce a licence—
(a) produces on that occasion a current receipt for the licence issued under section 56 of the [1988 c. 53.] Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 and, if required to do so, produces the licence in person immediately on its return at a police station that was specified on that occasion, or
(b) within seven days after that occasion produces such a receipt in person at a police station that was specified by him on that occasion and, if required to do so, produces the licence in person immediately on its return at that police station.
(8) In proceedings against any person for the offence of failing to produce a licence it shall be a defence for him to show that—
(a) within seven days after the production of his licence was required he produced it in person at a police station that was specified by him at the time its production was required, or
(b) he produced it in person there as soon as was reasonably practicable, or
(c) it was not reasonably practicable for him to produce it there before the day on which the proceedings were commenced,
and for the purposes of this subsection the laying of the information or, in Scotland, the service of the complaint on the accused shall be treated as the commencement of the proceedings

165 Power of constables to obtain names and addresses of drivers and others, and to require production of evidence of insurance or security and test certificates

(4) A person shall not be convicted of an offence under subsection (1) above by reason only of failure to produce any certificate or other evidence to a constable if in proceedings against him for the offence he shows that—
(a) within seven days after the date on which the production of the certificate or other evidence was required it was produced at a police station that was specified by him at the time when its production was required, or
(b) it was produced there as soon as was reasonably practicable, or
(c) it was not reasonably practicable for it to be produced there before the day on which the proceedings were commenced,
and for the purposes of this subsection the laying of the information or, in Scotland, the service of the complaint on the accused shall be treated as the commencement of the proceedings.


Andy
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