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Old 18 December 2007, 06:16 PM
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None of this AWD gayness. Lets have a 280bhp RWD car with LSD, and no traction control.
Old 18 December 2007, 06:37 PM
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What a crap article. Or at least an interesting article based around one crap photo. Can't believe there's so much excitement about this. RS Focus yes, but based on that, no.
Old 18 December 2007, 06:44 PM
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Autocar article
retains two-wheel drive but will use a special semi-active limited-slip diff to improve traction and on-limit handling
Old 18 December 2007, 06:59 PM
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Pathetic and cynical if that proves to be true. Charge more for it, give it 4WD and don't cheapen the RS badge.
Old 18 December 2007, 08:30 PM
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If 4wd it will put the nail in the Impreza's coffin imo of course.

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Old 18 December 2007, 08:56 PM
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£25k is a lot of coin, considering that an MY08 UK STI will be the exact same price.

The new RS will not employ an AWD system, it will remain FWD, using a semi-active LSD to help with traction.

EDIT - just CB's post a few above mine. Beat me to it!
Old 18 December 2007, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by drb5
Wouldn't they go back to RWD before 4WD?

That wouldn't be ideal but for did use RWD for the first RS and Vauxhall seem to be happy enough with RWD for their Monaro/VXR8.

The origional was RWD yes and what car, woudl love any of the original RS Escorts 1600 or the 2000.

Cant see them making it RWD, the cost would be similar to 4WD so may as well go down that route.
Old 18 December 2007, 09:57 PM
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Ford are mass market. 280bhp in an fwd car will give great motorway performance. Traction is not much of an issue at motorway speeds and that power level.

That seems to be how things have gone these days. Anyone with any power under the bonnet just seems to want to use it on m'ways in mini "your not overtaking me" drag races
Old 18 December 2007, 10:02 PM
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Ford haven't released any facts or figures so how do you know it is either fwd or 280bhp?

Ford :: Vehicle news :: Ford confirms new high performance Focus RS

"We're not ready to confirm any of the technical details of the new Focus RS yet - Jost and his team have a lot to do to finalise the exact specification and styling," said Fleming. "But make no mistake, I can assure you that ultimately, the car we plan to launch will be worthy of wearing the coveted Ford RS badge."

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Old 19 December 2007, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by slim_boy_fat
The origional was RWD yes and what car, woudl love any of the original RS Escorts 1600 or the 2000.

Cant see them making it RWD, the cost would be similar to 4WD so may as well go down that route.
I dont think they would make it rwd, cos the average joe cant drive rwd cars, you would end with lots of crashed RS's, I know loads of people that have said to me "I used to have a BMW, then I had close shave on a wet corner, rear end out, etc" then they sell the car cos it ****s them up.
Old 19 December 2007, 10:46 AM
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Having seen at close quarters how much effort/shell rework it takes to put a rear diff into a Focus WRC car it would be such a fantastically complex project to productionise that I can't see it happening. Unless they built them all by hand that is.

Loving to be proved wrong....
Old 19 December 2007, 11:20 AM
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'Productionise' Are you Americanese

Weren't Escort Cossie's handbuilt by Karmann at the same factory as VW Corrado's ? And Renault seem to manage it with the Clio V6 !
Old 20 December 2007, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dazc2
Ford haven't released any facts or figures so how do you know it is either fwd or 280bhp?

Ford :: Vehicle news :: Ford confirms new high performance Focus RS
Because it all comes down to the rear suspension setup on the Focus - the unique 'control blade' system. This prevented Ford from producing the original FRS in AWD guise, as mounting a rear diff etc would have meant doing away with the control blade setup, which was a major selling point of the car.
Old 20 December 2007, 11:49 AM
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I dont think they would make it rwd, cos the average joe cant drive rwd cars, you would end with lots of crashed RS's, I know loads of people that have said to me "I used to have a BMW, then I had close shave on a wet corner, rear end out, etc" then they sell the car cos it ****s them up.
Are you for real?
Old 20 December 2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Brun
Are you for real?
yes u fool
Old 21 December 2007, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MrRA
Because it all comes down to the rear suspension setup on the Focus - the unique 'control blade' system. This prevented Ford from producing the original FRS in AWD guise, as mounting a rear diff etc would have meant doing away with the control blade setup, which was a major selling point of the car.

Yes, but the Volvo C30 which is based on the Focus also has control blade suspension, and one particular variant had 4x4...
Old 22 December 2007, 08:35 AM
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yes u fool
Note to self - As i'm an average Joe, i must never buy a rwd high power car cos i will not be able to drive it
Old 22 December 2007, 04:41 PM
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Its says on one of those links that it will be between 21-23K Not a bad price but as said before would be better bein 4x4 and 25k
Old 22 December 2007, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by VTR Bondy
Its says on one of those links that it will be between 21-23K Not a bad price but as said before would be better bein 4x4 and 25k
The links are pure speculative. Price and spec have not been released yet and probably won't until late next year or early 2009.
Old 22 December 2007, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Brun
Note to self - As i'm an average Joe, i must never buy a rwd high power car cos i will not be able to drive it
good
Old 23 December 2007, 07:43 PM
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"Just as the Focus RS WRC owns the rally circuit, we want the new Focus RS to own the road, so we have the major competitors in our sights as we develop the car's performance, design, handling and braking."
Sounds promising. I think if it awd they won't have trouble shifting them at around 30k even. I'd likely put a deposit down, no chance if it's 2wd.
Old 25 December 2007, 12:47 AM
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It will surely be AWD. It's not difficult to do with the latest Focus platform. They'd be mad not to.

Should be a very nice piece of kit. The last Focus RS was a true enthusiast's car.
Old 28 December 2007, 12:16 PM
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My ST has no spare wheel due to the exhaust, chuck a prop and a diff in there and they'd have to take the rear seats out!
Old 28 December 2007, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by davecweed
yes u fool
Old 29 December 2007, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by sti-04!!
Thanks
Old 29 December 2007, 10:54 AM
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There is an article in the latest CAR magazine & it says it will definately be FWD
Old 29 December 2007, 03:37 PM
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But at the same time Ford haven't released any technical spec. So, how do they know? Or is it speculation again?
Old 29 December 2007, 03:45 PM
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I suppose they know a certain number of die-hard RS fans will buy it no matter what, then there'll be those who buy it 'cos they like it's looks and those who simply don't know any different. If that number of buyers meets the profit over production quota for a limited run it will be built and sold to that spec. If for one minute they thought that 90% of them would remain unsold as people demand 4WD and 300+bhp then that is what the car would get. they are in business to make money, they do so by building cars which will make a profit over their manufacturing costs, what we think of those cars is irrelevant.
Old 29 December 2007, 08:58 PM
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Spoke to my local dealer yesterday.

Name on list.

Have instructed him to let me know the second he knows the spec. If it's 4WD I'll be down within half an hour with my deposit cheque.
Old 29 December 2007, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Spoke to my local dealer yesterday.

Name on list.

Have instructed him to let me know the second he knows the spec. If it's 4WD I'll be down within half an hour with my deposit cheque.

Im gonna do the same. If this is 4WD im getting it, i almost bought an ST (and an RS actually) jus before i got my STi but the ST was too overpowered for FWD imo.. kept interfering with TC. (and the dealer was an idiot to me with the RS!! so i didnt give him any of my £25k!!)


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