kingofturds

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Just another example of how these crazy ultra left bunch of filthy stinking facists have lost the plot.

Abdabz

Having a conversation on hands free is tip top finediddlysplendid

Holding the phone whilst driving confirms the driver has head genetalia and should be banned.

The safety implications between the two are (to me) so distinct...

Do your bit... If you see a driver holding a phone to his ear or texting while driving, get on the horn. Blast them until they look up, use sign language to tell them to put their phone away, question their personal habits using a different gesticulation and then carry on your way...

Remember folks, every little helps

trails

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because, shock horror, its unexpected events that cause accidents...



proof you can't converse and drive safely at the same time.

PMSL, you want to give your average driver the ability to choose if they are capable of holding a telephone conversation whilst driving...most of them can't even pick the correct lane without the distraction of a telephone conversation

lol, are you under 30 by chance The world is a dangerous place and life does suck but we can all do without fek-wits making things worse for no gain...take the call when you reach your destination or if its urgent pull into a lay-by.

kingofturds

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They should also jail the morons that stop in the most inappropriate places you could possibly think of like junctions blind bends etc

trails

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but they think its OK 'cause they have their hazards on

RB5_245

I won't re do all my points, it's pretty much summed up by - you can talk on the phone and drive, as if something unexpected happens you instantly turn all your attention to it. If you're babbling then you're concentrating on the road and will get back to the conversation when it's safe, or end the conversation.

YES, YES I do. Please re-read your phrase a few times. Do you really want to take away the right to choose when you phone people? Actually, it's already illegal so moot point really. Maybe this point is ok with you, but it's one more small infringement on my freedom. Particularly so when there is already perfectly good law to cover this point.

My point exactly, why criminalize me for doing something that is not harming anyone. Life's fantastic, it doesn't suck at all, it's all these little rules that keep adding up and pretending they're for our own good will break the country though. I feel sorry for people growing up thinking this is normal.

Better stop, I feel a real rant coming on

trails

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if you honestly believe that, then you have been very lucky for your whole driving career. Most people drive around with their heads cut off anyway, in their safe warm quiet cocoon; allow them to use a phone and you will just distract them further from what they are supposed to be doing; driving.


I absolutely do; it increases the risk to the idiot on the phone and all those around them. Simple really. A small infringement on your freedom maybe but it will help prevent accidents. Make the call when you stop driving.

I'm sure that's what the drivers involved in fatal accidents thought whilst using their phones before the impact...how is accident prevention not for our own good?!?

Rant away

GC8WRX

Trails, dont take this as a personal attack, but people like you make me want to leave this country.

Anything involving any type of "percieved risk" is potentially harmful so should be banned for the greater good!!!

I bet you are happy that kids cant play conkers at school incase the little un comes home with something in his eye!!

Im sorry but you cant keep taking away someones choices until there is none left to make!!

Where does it stop, soon it will be illegal to change radio stations!!

And what about taxi drivers and cops, why are they allowed to use radios to have conversations with people not in the car?? Are they immune to the effects???????


And if the cops have training for use of radios, why cant we all have it??????

Iain Young

There is a slight difference between playing conkers and driving a lethal weapon at 80mph whilst not concentrating though isn't there? Conkers is a self inflicted injury, whereas a car crash can kill dozens of innocent people.

It's all a question of where do you draw the line? Driving with a phone is clearly dangerous, but I'm not sure a seperate law is needed to cover it (surely "driving without due care and attention" is all that's needed). It could be argued that we should all be allowed to own Ak47s. I'd never use it to hurt anyone, so it must be ok for everyone?

RB5_245

Who's to say I don't crash regularly

Actually I rarely use the phone while driving, though have no issue with it.

I do honestly believe it should be our choice to make wholeheartedly, as I do with many other things that I may not even approve of or like. If you'd like everything dangerous to be banned and be controlled the weather is pretty sunny in saudi arabia.

I only see things like this drawing us toward communism (the bad kind) or a similar situation as hard line middle east countries. It may seem excessive for a thread on mobiles and driving, however it is just part of an ever more worrying trend.

trails

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lol, how can I not take it as a personal attack...but you don't know me so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt

nope, not at all and I didn't even insinuate that. I am an individual; I love free will.

not really because then they would ban skate parks and I would have nothing to do in my free time...and be honest, you have to admit that is a terrible example to use when we are discussing control of a potentially lethal weapon that a huge slice of the population has access to.

Absolutely not, but as I have already said most peoples driving is bad enough without the added distraction of a mobile phone. Their choice could also have a big impact on some ones else life...just because they won't be patient.

because that generally takes a lot less time\concentration...

I don't know about taxi drivers but the cops are trained...if you desire the option to speak on your phone whilst driving without your hands free kit that much then why not find out if it is available?

trails

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I agree regarding our weak-*** PC country and those that govern us...but most people's driving is shocking at the best of times, add a telephone conversation and they are an out right menace.