£1000 car tax???
#32
Edit:- just checked:-
Its the 2.5 Duratec V6 Mondeo's ... which most wouldn't class as 'average family cars'
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#33
I didnt say they fall into the highest bracket, only that they fall into a fairly high one and the same as some Freelanders, ie 4x4s.
The point was made that family car drivers wont care about this supposed £1000 tax. But if they've got a Mondeo (family orientated car) then they will pay the same as 'hated' 4x4s. Therefore, this new system gets more people.
The point was made that family car drivers wont care about this supposed £1000 tax. But if they've got a Mondeo (family orientated car) then they will pay the same as 'hated' 4x4s. Therefore, this new system gets more people.
#34
I didnt say they fall into the highest bracket, only that they fall into a fairly high one and the same as some Freelanders, ie 4x4s.
The point was made that family car drivers wont care about this supposed £1000 tax. But if they've got a Mondeo (family orientated car) then they will pay the same as 'hated' 4x4s. Therefore, this new system gets more people.
The point was made that family car drivers wont care about this supposed £1000 tax. But if they've got a Mondeo (family orientated car) then they will pay the same as 'hated' 4x4s. Therefore, this new system gets more people.
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It doesn't make any sense. I pollute less than the average Fiesta driver, as only drive my car at the weekend and use public transport during the week... so how can I be billed as a 'polluter'? Nonsense money making scheme.
#36
I agree (with post 24) I'm just saying that more cars than you realise fall into higher brackets, as the gov't moved the goalposts for which emissions fell into which bracket.
Wish i could afford a brand new Range Rover, then i could really wind these damn liberals up.
Wish i could afford a brand new Range Rover, then i could really wind these damn liberals up.
#37
If you drove a Micra at the weekends you would pollute a lot less, see?
It's what you pollute when you drive that matters, not what you pollute over a period of time .. thats just how it is.
Have you removed your CAT, for example?
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I agree (with post 24) I'm just saying that more cars than you realise fall into higher brackets, as the gov't moved the goalposts for which emissions fell into which bracket.
Wish i could afford a brand new Range Rover, then i could really wind these damn liberals up.
Wish i could afford a brand new Range Rover, then i could really wind these damn liberals up.
Thats 95% of car owners who don't give a toss what band G people pay.
#39
There are calls for a Band H to be introduced.
I quote, "Even with band 'H' set at £500, owners of these expensive cars could afford the tax, so it's not the cost of the tax that's the deterrent.
Instead, cars in band 'H' would be worth thousands of pounds less at resale time than those in band G, and it's this drop in value that would make buyers of such cars think twice"
So, its the Re-sale value smack which will make people think twice - this coupled with the new WRX and STi shape may make the new cars a flop?!
I quote, "Even with band 'H' set at £500, owners of these expensive cars could afford the tax, so it's not the cost of the tax that's the deterrent.
Instead, cars in band 'H' would be worth thousands of pounds less at resale time than those in band G, and it's this drop in value that would make buyers of such cars think twice"
So, its the Re-sale value smack which will make people think twice - this coupled with the new WRX and STi shape may make the new cars a flop?!
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#43
Its a class thing more than anything. Like i said in an earlier post, this gov't dont like the 'types' of people who drive bigger cars. If anyone can afford to buy a so-called big, gas-guzzler, then they can afford the tax.
#44
Read my posts more carefully .......... it is acknowledged that they can afford the Tax - it's the massive drop in residual value which will make these people desert the vehicles under discussion here.
These people 'tend' to be quite intelligent, wise and don't like throwing money away - so, residuals are of the utmost importance.
These people 'tend' to be quite intelligent, wise and don't like throwing money away - so, residuals are of the utmost importance.
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Yes I have removed my cat as I decided since I am paying twice as much as other road users I should be entitled to create twice as many emissions whilst my car is in use.
They should scrap road tax and introduce toll roads IMHO. You always end up paying for other people in this country.
Never accept things just because someone says "that's the way things are". You'd never change anything with that attitude.
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#46
You have removed your CAT
In that case you should really be paying £1000 a year now - destroying the planet for those who follow in the vain attempt to go faster!
How would mileage be calculated? At MOT Time? Those who put CATs on for MOTs would simply wind the mileage back.
You are being rather niaive - but, it's Xmas ...... so, I'm chilled.
In that case you should really be paying £1000 a year now - destroying the planet for those who follow in the vain attempt to go faster!
How would mileage be calculated? At MOT Time? Those who put CATs on for MOTs would simply wind the mileage back.
You are being rather niaive - but, it's Xmas ...... so, I'm chilled.
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A sensible and fair alternative to the current antiquated road tax. I should stand for PM
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Read my posts more carefully .......... it is acknowledged that they can afford the Tax - it's the massive drop in residual value which will make these people desert the vehicles under discussion here.
These people 'tend' to be quite intelligent, wise and don't like throwing money away - so, residuals are of the utmost importance.
These people 'tend' to be quite intelligent, wise and don't like throwing money away - so, residuals are of the utmost importance.
Rubbish. If thats all people are bothered about, then they should buy a cheap banger in the fist place. My point is, if people have the money to throw about on cars and road tax, then why would they be bothered about losing a few grand when they come to sall it? It would be other like minded people who would buy the vehicle anyway and, again, they could afford the tax.....
#51
Rubbish. If thats all people are bothered about, then they should buy a cheap banger in the fist place. My point is, if people have the money to throw about on cars and road tax, then why would they be bothered about losing a few grand when they come to sall it? It would be other like minded people who would buy the vehicle anyway and, again, they could afford the tax.....
#52
A fair way to do it would be to scrap car tax altogether and shove fuel duty right up. Thats pay as you drive then without being tracked in some communist style control system.
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Well, the world supply will dictate what we pay much more than a few pennies taken in Tax by the Government of the day to pay for Hospitals, Schools, The Elderly and the poor ................... but, they are just a distraction when we want to pollute the planet aren't they?
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You have removed your CAT
In that case you should really be paying £1000 a year now - destroying the planet for those who follow in the vain attempt to go faster!
How would mileage be calculated? At MOT Time? Those who put CATs on for MOTs would simply wind the mileage back.
You are being rather niaive - but, it's Xmas ...... so, I'm chilled.
In that case you should really be paying £1000 a year now - destroying the planet for those who follow in the vain attempt to go faster!
How would mileage be calculated? At MOT Time? Those who put CATs on for MOTs would simply wind the mileage back.
You are being rather niaive - but, it's Xmas ...... so, I'm chilled.
Whats that smell.........ah yes........hipocracy!