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Old 31 December 2007, 11:24 PM
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I'd never leave our staffie alone with a load of kids...I hate kids and couldn't put an animal through such cruelty
Old 31 December 2007, 11:27 PM
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I'd never leave our staffie alone with a load of kids...I hate kids and couldn't put an animal through such cruelty

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Old 31 December 2007, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LegacySTi
right david we get it...


you don't like dogs...

don't own one..

if you see one on the street cross the road...............


you'll be safe as........
Just seen this and it made me angry........

I LOVE dogs and most animals come to that. We have had dogs in the family for 50 years.

No I don't own one......... I currently have two Cavaliers having lost my beloved Golden a couple of years back.

Does loving dogs mean I can't post sensible comments ffs.

Happy New Year btw
Old 31 December 2007, 11:42 PM
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Genuine (SP) Questions

Does having a dog off the lead mean you are not a responsible owner? or is it more about having control over that dog?

Does teaching a dog to attack.. or bite on command not teach the dog violence.. something that the dog might accidentally do at some point..

I.E my dog now sits when I eat as she is learning to sit on command using treats.. ??
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If you take your dog to a place where there are other dogs / people and let it of the lead, yes I think it's irriresponsible You may well have your dog under control but others may not see it the same way. Generally our staffie is fine with other dogs if they're both on leads but since she's been attacked by two other dogs, not on leads she gets a bit defensive. That said, we don't take her near other dogs if poss anymore
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Genuine (SP) Questions

Does having a dog off the lead mean you are not a responsible owner? or is it more about having control over that dog?
Personally and agreed by many of the guys I know with fully trained dogs is that it is irresponsible and selfish. I have full control over my one dog and he could be off the lead at any point, however, I cut the chances of a 'freak' accident happening. That's called covering all bases and being responsible.

Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Does teaching a dog to attack.. or bite on command not teach the dog violence.. something that the dog might accidentally do at some point..
The dog doesn't know violence, just a process he's been taught to do correctly and on command. Mine has nerves of steel and can be intimidated all you like, it won't react unless I tell it to. So no, teaching a dog to attack doesn't mean it's aggressive. He has an incredible temperament which allows him to be gentle when 'switched' off.

Take a look at this for restraint until told. YouTube - Guard dog Attack training German Shepherd/Malinois k9-1.com
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Personally and agreed by many of the guys I know with fully trained dogs is that it is irresponsible and selfish. I have full control over my one dog and he could be off the lead at any point, however, I cut the chances of a 'freak' accident happening. That's called covering all bases and being responsible.


The dog doesn't know violence, just a process he's been taught to do correctly and on command. Mine has nerves of steel and can be intimidated all you like, it won't react unless I tell it to. So no, teaching a dog to attack doesn't mean it's aggressive. He has an incredible temperament which allows him to be gentle when 'switched' off.

Take a look at this for restraint until told. YouTube - Guard dog Attack training German Shepherd/Malinois k9-1.com
LOL the dog is waging its tail when it attacks

That would be amazing.. the dog doesn't look like its being very er.. attack like.. more like its playing.. with its tail waging

Still the control is very impressive!
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Personally and agreed by many of the guys I know with fully trained dogs is that it is irresponsible and selfish. I have full control over my one dog and he could be off the lead at any point, however, I cut the chances of a 'freak' accident happening. That's called covering all bases and being responsible.


The dog doesn't know violence, just a process he's been taught to do correctly and on command. Mine has nerves of steel and can be intimidated all you like, it won't react unless I tell it to. So no, teaching a dog to attack doesn't mean it's aggressive. He has an incredible temperament which allows him to be gentle when 'switched' off.

Take a look at this for restraint until told. YouTube - Guard dog Attack training German Shepherd/Malinois k9-1.com

Another question, why do you have your dogs trained to attack on command?

If its a pet? again genuine question
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
LOL the dog is waging its tail when it attacks

That would be amazing.. the dog doesn't look like its being very er.. attack like.. more like its playing.. with its tail waging

Still the control is very impressive!
Common misconception number one is to believe a dog is playing when it wags it's tail. It just means it's excited.

My dogs tail is like a helicopter rota blade when switched on.
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Another question, why do you have your dogs trained to attack on command?

If its a pet? again genuine question
Owners have protection dogs for personal safety that for obvious reasons means they live with them. Some have sport dogs where a protection phase is part of that sport, Schutzhund, along with tracking and obedience phases. The protection phase of this sport though is different from a true protection dog which has to be trained for so many different variables than just a planned phase.

Mine is also handy for finding things as his tracking is great once you give him a scent.
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Owners have protection dogs for personal safety that for obvious reasons means they live with them. Some have sport dogs where a protection phase is part of that sport, Schutzhund, along with tracking and obedience phases. The protection phase of this sport though is different from a true protection dog which has to be trained for so many different variables than just a planned phase.

Mine is also handy for finding things as his tracking is great once you give him a scent.
Would you consider a normal everyday family good reason to have protection from a well trained dog ?

I.E Women walking at night.. is it worth the cost..as not everyone has the skills required to do a professional job and I would assume its extremely important the dog is trained correctly for this kind of skill.
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In your mind that is.
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Originally Posted by _RIP_
In your mind that is.

Your input, is
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Would you consider a normal everyday family good reason to have protection from a well trained dog ?

I.E Women walking at night.. is it worth the cost..as not everyone has the skills required to do a professional job and I would assume its extremely important the dog is trained correctly for this kind of skill.
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Originally Posted by stilover
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I have a Staffie, ......
Staffie attacked someone, and people say all Staffies attack. Not true
Would you rather be attacked by a well trained Staffie or a badly trained Westie?

The vast majority of 'dangerous dog'* owners make sure that their mutt will behave. The problem is that probably 0.001% want to use the dog as a weapon and 0.001% don't actually care. If I don't care and have a Westie that savages someone, it would be unfortunate if it managed to chew its way through their boots. A Staffie or a Rottie on the other hand would eat their leg or kill them.


p.s. - When I say dangerous dog, I mean, something that could kill you if it took the notion. I used to have a Rhodesian Ridgeback. (sp) 12 stone of pure fury, teeth and saliva if anyone (including me) jumped the back wall, but basically a 12 stone cuddle when she thought all was well. She was so well trained that she basically knew what I was thinking, but I would never ever have left her unattended with anyone.
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Originally Posted by _RIP_
Mince pies
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See my bum, Kiss it
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lol, em, I C NO BUM

Fire it up by all means girl
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Originally Posted by 84of300
See my bum, Kiss it
Any pics before I decide?
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Originally Posted by _RIP_
lol, em, I C NO BUM

Fire it up by all means girl
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Old 01 January 2008, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
Get your coat.... you've pulled
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
Get your coat.... you've pulled

Shall I tell hubby or just bugger off
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Originally Posted by 84of300
Shall I tell hubby or just bugger off
Dunno - Is he bigger than me?






















(No I mean is he likely to beat the **** out of me.... I don't care about the dimensions of his ***** )
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as said before it aint the breed it is the owner/trainer



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