RUDDY

yeah i read it and brun answered perfectly then all got silly with and after tony burns's post! dont get me wrong im not trying to annoy you all just seemed a bit harsh to me!

RUDDY

lol banny your funny and i love your scooby! i wasnt having a pop at you.








unless you negged me lol!!

Tidgy

i think it was the insurance bit that got people going

stevebt

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I posted my reply as IT IS cheaper to sell it and buy an sti in the long run

Dracoro

kyle - dnt lizten 2 al deez sn posse aii. they dnt no wot dey iz talkin aboot. juzt get yerseelv a phat zorst, wicked dumpvalve aii n nocklink and yiz be pushin 450 orses ezilee aii.

then yo be izilee be spankin n e porker boys aii, be creem o de cruizz sene 2 ai. big up it boy aii, bo.

RUDDY

yeah i can understand that but without opening a whole debate about this, insurace cost a fortune at his age and so does everything else. when your 20 you do what you can and take a few risks.
i know i did!

dynamix

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wtf?

RUDDY

hi steve he is 20, to insure an 03 sti your gonna be looking at 3 grand and thats after you spent the 13 grand buying a good one and then you gotta spend 2 grand to get it to 400 hp
THATS 18 GRAND how on earth is that cheaper than modding his classic??
IT IS NOT cheaper! lol! unless ive got myself confused mate??

MattW

I made a mistake when I was 20 and didn't tell an insurance company about a set of weller wheels (remember them) on a mini I had. TBH it was a mistake I really wasn't aware that i had to. When the car got nicked they refused to pay out.

The error was compounded when an ambiguous question on a proposal form for my next insurance meant another theft of my next and more expensive vehicle was refused.

That was 17 years ago, if I add a sticker to the car, the insurance company get told.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

Thats some wierd calculations, he has his vehicle to sell, here is a 2004 sti for £9k Autotrader - SUBARU IMPREZA 2.0 WRX STi TYPE UK 4dr (air con)=




Insurance doesnt count as cost towards mods as you have to pay it to get any vehicle, and it wouldnt cost £2k to get to 400bhp unless your pushing the boat out

I figure with the sale of his car he is only out of pocket £5k, and it will cost more than £5k to safely make 400bhp on a 98 car

Big_Dan531

i had my impreza at 19 whats wrong with being young and owning one im 21 now and will be runngin at about 300bhp soon

RUDDY

LOL get a load of this MATTW pmed me to admit that he was the negger. and his reasons were because i was supporting the young kid who wanted to get around insurance! then you read post 69 and he did the same thing! nice one Matt you tit! at least you got the bollox to PM me though sound!
im leaving this thread alone now!

dynamix

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Nothing wrong with being young and owning one.

But.... you are statistically more likely to have an accident or cause an accident and hence the insurers will ask for more money to cover you.

Trying to cut corners and not declare mods is daft as they will only find out in the event of a claim and you will end up not having any cover and much worse.

RUDDY

steve your right my calculations are on the wild side but you get the idea! it is still very costly! your right though as i own a my 00 classic but in the summer im getting an my03 STI type uk and my insurance quote was 900 pound! woohooo! i cant wait!
l

stevebt

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The jump from an my00 to a my03 STI is great as the handling is in another league far superior to the older shaped cars I currently have a lightly modded JDM my03

MattW

Did the same thing and learnt my lesson

RUDDY

i know mate you obviously thought it was sensible enough at the time though! im not disagreeing cause your 100 percent correct but OP made a little comment and then he gets flamed and infracted! i was obviosly wrong trying to help the dude and i dont know how i got into all of this but im going to drive me scooby now its much more mun! no hard feelings to anyone on here!
we just need to treat our newbies better thats all!

RUDDY

now come on steve lets not diss the classics LOL! i cant wait though i really cant! just need to save a few grand and find somewere willing to trade!

TonyBurns

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So what was wrong with my post?
I stated the facts, that engine is no good for 400bhp, damn those pistons can snap at 250bhp let alone 400, yet i gave the advice that was needed, either go for an engine rebuild (plus accommodating mods) or get a car that can take 400bhp to start with.
There is nothing wrong with what I posted, I think pretty much all the tuners out there will agree with me on what I put down, a uk turbo wont do 400bhp on standard internals.

Tony

Tidgy

i think 250 is a little low tony, iv'e been running more than that for 2 years, and approx 340 for 8 months with no probs (touch wood lol, pats head)

TonyBurns

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Ive known people just running an exhaust (dp cat still in place, not detting) so about 230-240bhp who have had a piston let go, not nice
But in reallity running more than 1.2bar and your pushing it for reliability.

Tony

Tidgy

dont agree, as said i've been running more than that for a while now.

having said that i am running an uprated oil cooler which makes a huge difference to running temps

TonyBurns

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That was an MY00, guy owned it from new, only 3 years old when it let go about 40k on the clock, though he did drive it like an idiot, ragged the *** off it everywhere, but they do break quite easily considering

Tony

Tidgy

ahh and there in lies your problem, treat them like crap and bang they go.

while i don't exactly treat it with kid gloves, i always warm mine up, let it cool down, never thrash it if i think somethings amiss etc etc.

when its warm and ready to go then i do give it some lol

you treat anycar badly and it will break pretty quickly

New_scooby_04

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There are lots of variables here, but the std internals will do 400bhp

Andy F has said as much on his website and, lets face it, he knows a damn sight more about these engines than us lot!

HOWEVER

As I'm sure Andy would agree, if the car is getting on, or if its a daily driver or likely to be driven hard (dragged, tracked etc), then upgrading the internals is a good idea.

My MY99 runs 320bhp without issue. When I had it upgraded both David and Bob Rawle assured me that if looked after properly and not driven like a loon it woiuld be fine.

I think that's the key. Increasing the power will invariably compound the effects of slack maintenence or harsh driving. If you look after them and don't drive like a nutter, they're strong engines.

I think some people pull bhp aspirations out of the air: 320ish bhp is so much easier and cheaper on a UK non-Sti. On a classic shape car, this equates to a power to weight ratio near as damnit the same as the baby V8 Aston Martin. As a daily driver, that's more than enough, take my word for it!

That's not to say that you won't want more, but you do need to be prepared for the cost. You should figure on the std gearbox and clutch giving up the ghost at the very least. Over 2k to sort that out alone!

Ns04

PS FYI most scoobies I'm aware of that have had the typical stage one/two mods and a remap run boost pressures of 1.3bar and above, so I think 1.2 might be a bit conservative

p1 naughty

321h thats the turbo you want...top turbo

kylejennings05

hi people, thanks 4 not giving me any abuse 2day lol iv spoke 2 api engines this morning and he said he'l rebuild my engine 4 £2500 as long as i can get the engine 2 him already out the car. he's gave me alot of advice and im now going 2 go 4 about 330-350bhp, because iv had a good think its still going 2 be 1 realy quick car. because dnt get me wrong its quick now never mind with another 80-90bhp. he said my gearbox and every thing will be fine 2 as long as dnt go any higher, and thanks alot 4 offer of the box and turbo but been advised 2 go 4 the vf34 as i wnt rip my gearbox, pus quick spool up 2! plus dnt worry people the insurance no about my mods.

daz97

mate iv just upgraded to a 20g housing and wheel its much bigger and spins more air thro it came from china and i also got all the cast tuned up and flowed and **** me what a differance my car flys iv just pressured all 4 fuel rails as it was running out of fuel it was dettonating but sorted now and got a nice 440bhp with a 2.5 new block with fmic bigger, injectors,fuel reg,full hks right thro list goes on but been thro 4 gear boxes and im sick of taken them out and back in stick to about 320 mate no further it costs ya in long run

cookstar

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Or just fit a decent gearbox

chocolate_o_brian

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so could david actually understand you on the phone then