Brunstrom: ecstasy is safer than aspirin
02 January 2008, 02:03 PM
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E pills these days are cut with all sorts of wonderful things like piperazine (from cat worming tablets) so on that level I'd say they're dangerous : you never know whats in them !
02 January 2008, 02:05 PM
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Personally, I smoked far too much pot when I was younger but now the quality is so bad i won't waste my money on it. Same goes for chemicals - such poor quality in the UK.
02 January 2008, 02:17 PM
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I guess that lots of people are falling down every week due to ecstasy, but they do get back up again
I was pointing out that there has been more than one ecstasy related death
02 January 2008, 02:30 PM
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02 January 2008, 02:34 PM
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Oh well, on the plus side, if I get pulled in Brunstrum's area for speeding I'll just tell the copper I'm in a hurry to pick up some pills. Perfect.
02 January 2008, 02:36 PM
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It's been a while for me !!!!!! but please tell me you can at least test these in clubs now, like they were doing abroad years ago?
02 January 2008, 02:38 PM
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02 January 2008, 03:02 PM
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There should be an honest review of all drugs and policies imo!!!!!!
Alcohol is worse than most "recreational" drugs, but the people who make the laws up drink alcohol so wont touch it!!!!
How many people do you know who turn into a pr1ck after 5 pints????
How many people get violent after a spliff or a pill?????????
Alcohol is worse than most "recreational" drugs, but the people who make the laws up drink alcohol so wont touch it!!!!
How many people do you know who turn into a pr1ck after 5 pints????
How many people get violent after a spliff or a pill?????????
02 January 2008, 03:24 PM
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02 January 2008, 03:29 PM
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This is the problem.. When things are illegal they are driven under-ground and tend to get worse.. If alcohol was made illegal no doubt it would be getting manufactured illegally for the black-market with all sorts of ****e to give it a kick..
Just about anything that is 'illegalised' seems to get 10 times worse because there is no longer a controlled market.. Also the fact it is illegal makes it more of a thrill for young takers.
Just about anything that is 'illegalised' seems to get 10 times worse because there is no longer a controlled market.. Also the fact it is illegal makes it more of a thrill for young takers.
02 January 2008, 03:38 PM
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If anyone reading this thread partakes in E pills, I'd urge you to check out the site Pill Reports to check you're not poisoning yourself. Be safe !
02 January 2008, 04:28 PM
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Most people who have died died from either drinking to much water or overheating from dancing/hot clubs not from the contents of the pill. You can no longer get MDMA so pills are made up of other stuff. Proper pills faded out around 1994 and were replaced with ketamine for a while. The pills these days are very poor thats why most people have moved on to coke.
I used to go clubbing years ago and one even half a pill would last you all night these days you need about 10.....so I'm told
I used to go clubbing years ago and one even half a pill would last you all night these days you need about 10.....so I'm told
02 January 2008, 04:54 PM
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Most people who have died died from either drinking to much water or overheating from dancing/hot clubs not from the contents of the pill. You can no longer get MDMA so pills are made up of other stuff. Proper pills faded out around 1994 and were replaced with ketamine for a while. The pills these days are very poor thats why most people have moved on to coke.
I used to go clubbing years ago and one even half a pill would last you all night these days you need about 10.....so I'm told
I used to go clubbing years ago and one even half a pill would last you all night these days you need about 10.....so I'm told
Why can you no longer get MDMA?
02 January 2008, 05:05 PM
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02 January 2008, 05:19 PM
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If anyone reading this thread partakes in E pills, I'd urge you to check out the site Pill Reports to check you're not poisoning yourself. Be safe !
Hardly - there's no useful info on that site at all that I can see. Just a load of pictures of various tablets, with comments: "Not tested, contents unknown".
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02 January 2008, 05:24 PM
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Oh and Leah Betts?
Nothing in life is simple...
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However, SIADH caused by the ecstasy left Betts unable to urinate which would have allowed expulsion of the excess water and prevented hyponatremia. At the inquest it was stated "If Leah had taken the drug alone she might well have survived. If she had drunk the amount of water alone she would have survived."
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02 January 2008, 05:24 PM
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in those days pill's were made with proper MDMA. Then all the gansters got involved in what was an undergrown dance scene in those days. Caps were emptied and filled with trips and speed and E's were made with ket, you could always tell the ket ones as you ended up walking like a space man and stepping over things that were not there.Pills were crap for years and then a few years ago a new type of pill came out, mitsubishi's etc that were very much like the old type of pills like doves and new yorkers etc from the late 80's early 90's. Pills are again crap and the effects of them last for days after.
I took pills etc for over 15 years so I think it's more than speculation. I no longer take anything as I'm getting far to old for such things.
02 January 2008, 05:31 PM
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No it's just sales gimmik. You could not take pure powder form, proper E's only have a very small amount of MDMA in them. The stuff you are talking about is a creamy coloured crystal that they call MDMA powder. Not sure what it is but it's hectic stuff. Costs about 40 quid a gram.
02 January 2008, 05:32 PM
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No it's just sales gimmik. You could not take pure powder form, proper E's only have a very small amount of MDMA in them. The stuff you are talking about is a creamy coloured crystal that they call MDMA powder. Not sure what it is but it's hectic stuff. Costs about 40 quid a gram.
Thats the stuff, does burn a bit
02 January 2008, 05:49 PM
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Fact, do a search its out there somewere, You can only get a copy of the original MDMA. That is what is put in "some" pills. I have speculating since 1990 in those days pill's were made with proper MDMA. Then all the gansters got involved in what was an undergrown dance scene in those days. Caps were emptied and filled with trips and speed and E's were made with ket, you could always tell the ket ones as you ended up walking like a space man and stepping over things that were not there.
Pills were crap for years and then a few years ago a new type of pill came out, mitsubishi's etc that were very much like the old type of pills like doves and new yorkers etc from the late 80's early 90's. Pills are again crap and the effects of them last for days after.
I took pills etc for over 15 years so I think it's more than speculation. I no longer take anything as I'm getting far to old for such things.
in those days pill's were made with proper MDMA. Then all the gansters got involved in what was an undergrown dance scene in those days. Caps were emptied and filled with trips and speed and E's were made with ket, you could always tell the ket ones as you ended up walking like a space man and stepping over things that were not there.Pills were crap for years and then a few years ago a new type of pill came out, mitsubishi's etc that were very much like the old type of pills like doves and new yorkers etc from the late 80's early 90's. Pills are again crap and the effects of them last for days after.
I took pills etc for over 15 years so I think it's more than speculation. I no longer take anything as I'm getting far to old for such things.
Nope, it remains wrong. And I'm struggling to work out what a "copy of the original MDMA" might be. It's either MDMA or it isn't.
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02 January 2008, 06:01 PM
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You cannot get your hands on the MDMA from the 70's 80's and early 90's. There are a few types of MD's as I'm sure you will know. Anyway you seem to know more about these things than I do I take it you have first hand experience??
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