Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion

P1 or Type R?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04 January 2008, 04:45 PM
  #61  
+Doc+
Scooby Senior
 
+Doc+'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Sunny Ilson
Posts: 4,119
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Brun
A point well made
...I'd still have a Type R
..and I nearly did.
But someone bought it. Dont regret it though, look at my smile now
Old 04 January 2008, 04:56 PM
  #62  
super-roo
Scooby Newbie
 
super-roo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Got to be the type r for me.
My v5 has the longer fifth gear and its not a ltd ??????????????????
Old 04 January 2008, 04:57 PM
  #63  
scoobynutta555
Scooby Regular
 
scoobynutta555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Markyate.Imprezas owned:-wrx-sti5typeR-p1-uk22b-modded my00. Amongst others!
Posts: 8,541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Odds on
You deleted the point I raised, that P1's came with sh!te brakes. I never said type r brakes were better either, I've never owned one so wouldn't know. But standard P1 brakes are not good and I stand by that.

Calm down, P1's are good cars. There's no need to get touchy.

P1 brakes were indeed not 5hite as you claim and were adequate for normal drivers. If they weren't adequate for drivers who indulge in heavy and sustained braking, then you could fit with specialist pads, hardly a massive mod. The difference here is I have owned a P1 for 4 years and did 60k in one and never experienced brake fade. I'd wager there's not much difference between P1 brakes with better pads then the Alcons option which were very expensive. (£350 for a set of replacement discs IIRC)
Old 04 January 2008, 05:15 PM
  #64  
vindaloo
Scooby Regular
 
vindaloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: South Bucks
Posts: 3,213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by scoobynutta555
P1 brakes were indeed not 5hite as you claim and were adequate for normal drivers. If they weren't adequate for drivers who indulge in heavy and sustained braking, then you could fit with specialist pads, hardly a massive mod. The difference here is I have owned a P1 for 4 years and did 60k in one and never experienced brake fade. I'd wager there's not much difference between P1 brakes with better pads then the Alcons option which were very expensive. (£350 for a set of replacement discs IIRC)
Mmmm.... Does beg the question though. What's the difference between a NEW set of Subaru 4 pots and a bigger brake kit. Not quite a level playing field comparing brakes on a 7 years old car with brand new kit.

For that reason, I'm wondering how peoples' new, whizzy calipers will stand up to the dust, grime and general detritus of motoring.

K.
Old 04 January 2008, 05:21 PM
  #65  
scoobynutta555
Scooby Regular
 
scoobynutta555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Markyate.Imprezas owned:-wrx-sti5typeR-p1-uk22b-modded my00. Amongst others!
Posts: 8,541
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'd like to see a test. I've had a 6 pot big brake set up on an Impreza from standard 4 pots and didn't notice a huge difference. Apart from having a vastly lighter wallet.The pads I have on now are the cheapest of the cheap and quite crap for high speed braking, noticebly worse than OEM pads. Given that I do a maximum of 50 mph everyday it's of no concern to me.

Unless you're going to be involved in very heavy and sustained braking from very high speeds ( like tracking) then the standard 4 pot set up will be fine.
Old 04 January 2008, 10:10 PM
  #66  
Scoobymart
Scooby Regular
 
Scoobymart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by EddScott
I'm still undecided as to my next Impreza. Its going to be a toy so I'm sticking with a classic. If it was a daily, I would take a Prodrive Bug every time.

I've not driven a Type R or RA but have driven a couple of P1s. As the car is going to be a toy I want to put it on limited miles insurance or classic insurance. Classic insurance is for cars 10 years and over which pretty much rules out the P1.

So type R or RA V4 or 5. late dash, not fussed on rear spoiler (as I've got older I prefer the understated V4/UK rear spoiler) Must have the blue front seats and be Sonic Blue. Only thing I'm not sure is that although its a toy its still got to fit all 3 of us so I'm thinking that 4 doors is still going to be handy. I'm waiting on some more detailed pics of a V5 RA V Ltd on its way over at the moment.

Only thing with a 4 door is unless you know, its just another 4 door Impreza. Think my ultimate Impreza would be a V5/6 WRC V Ltd Type R.

Is there a big difference between the different 5th gears available? It will do one or two long journeys (Castle Combe, Silverstone from Wales) but its not a big issue.

Is there such a car as a WRC Type R?
Yes there is a WRC type R v/LTD. I have no.394/1000,they are very rare.
Old 04 January 2008, 10:35 PM
  #67  
Scoobymart
Scooby Regular
 
Scoobymart's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...Picture267.jpg http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u...Picture266.jpg
A couple of pics of a WRC V/LTD TYPE R.
Old 04 January 2008, 10:42 PM
  #68  
fatmanscooby
Scooby Regular
 
fatmanscooby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: type-r-ra
Posts: 3,890
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Old 05 January 2008, 02:17 AM
  #69  
Phildodd06
Scooby Regular
 
Phildodd06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Back to the gear box's on the type-r's, i think all V6's were fitted with a longer 5th gear.
Old 05 January 2008, 02:27 AM
  #70  
finnigan5823
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
finnigan5823's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: county durham
Posts: 844
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

For f sake someone put a end to this thread it will go on forever
i am no expert but if it was my money i would buy a blown engine typer and then
spend a fortune and get a 2.5 bottom end and fit sti heads(and other mods),then u will have a reliable type r with 350-400 bhp
Old 05 January 2008, 02:28 AM
  #71  
bluenose172
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
bluenose172's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Spec C - 12.5 @ 110(340/350)
Posts: 2,314
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The brakes were the first thing I changed on my P1, they were truely shocking! The pads and discs were fine when i took them off. My previous cars all had stronger bite and resisted fade far better.(Clio 172, Civic Type R)
Old 06 January 2008, 10:23 AM
  #72  
big_jim
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
big_jim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: birmingham
Posts: 307
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Scoobymart
that is pure SEX. I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old 06 January 2008, 11:16 AM
  #73  
winker
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
winker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 500
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by big_jim
im looking for a 2 door to replace my classic uk turbo.
but is the P1 worth spending more on over the Type R?
what would you buy?
what are the problems with both of them?
cheers
Hi i have a type r for sale if u want to look and let me know keith manchester
Old 06 January 2008, 08:37 PM
  #74  
chris dt
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
chris dt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 776
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

after having a classic 4 door and a newage 4 door and a type r.


There is no comparrison. TYPE R are the most complete subaru package bar the 22b!!!

Type r are the best drivers car bar none. End of!!!!!!!

Wish i still had mine.
Old 06 January 2008, 09:25 PM
  #75  
cwt
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (19)
 
cwt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 910
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hi all i have a v 3 type r shoter gears and all.

I have driven it everywhere including the south of France and the Alps. The short gearing was annoying sometimes. But once we got down to the Verdon Gorge and the Col de Turini, I could pretend I was Petter Solberg all over again.
Old 06 January 2008, 10:43 PM
  #76  
stevie boy
Scooby Regular
 
stevie boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: 323bhp.............. Scarborough
Posts: 471
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

hi all,


V6 sti type r wrc, 49k

for sale, as in view my scooby but with the standard wheels
Old 08 January 2008, 04:52 PM
  #77  
carl555
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
carl555's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: N.Wales
Posts: 669
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Isn’t there a definitive list of the differences of each of these STI models?

I’m sure I’ve seen a list with all the STI / RA / V-Limited / 555 / etc, matched with their options like DCCD, Gear ratios, and their model codes.

Anyone got a link to it?
Old 08 January 2008, 06:23 PM
  #78  
Az Sti Type R
Scooby Regular
 
Az Sti Type R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Feeding my car's addiction of V Power.
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'd like to see that too.
Old 09 January 2008, 12:41 AM
  #79  
Dream Weaver
Scooby Regular
 
Dream Weaver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 9,844
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Lots of info here - Scoobypedia | Trusted knowledge for everything Subaru | SidcFaq / SIDC FAQ
Old 09 January 2008, 10:19 PM
  #80  
big_jim
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
big_jim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: birmingham
Posts: 307
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by stevie boy
hi all,


V6 sti type r wrc, 49k

for sale, as in view my scooby but with the standard wheels
how much? pm me a price. cheers
Old 09 January 2008, 11:31 PM
  #81  
+Doc+
Scooby Senior
 
+Doc+'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Sunny Ilson
Posts: 4,119
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Ok close this thread the Type R is a poor mans P1.... xD
Old 09 January 2008, 11:36 PM
  #82  
salsa-king
Scooby Senior
 
salsa-king's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Nottm
Posts: 15,068
Received 42 Likes on 26 Posts
Default

lets face it.. Type R is the better looking car... and a P1 owner will always secrectly think the same

but P1.. easier to insure (?)
and has ABS.
but only comes in BLUE
Old 10 January 2008, 07:36 AM
  #83  
Az Sti Type R
Scooby Regular
 
Az Sti Type R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Feeding my car's addiction of V Power.
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by +Doc+
Ok close this thread the Type R is a poor mans P1.... xD
Sorry, the Type R is the original and best.

The P1 is a down graded Type R (no DCCD, short box, intercooler spray etc) in a limited uk run and colour which only holds its value for those 2 reasons in my opinion.
Old 10 January 2008, 07:53 AM
  #84  
Odds on
Scooby Regular
 
Odds on's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Az Sti Type R
Sorry, the Type R is the original and best.

The P1 is a down graded Type R (no DCCD, short box, intercooler spray etc) in a limited uk run and colour which only holds its value for those 2 reasons in my opinion.
When was the last time you used the DCCD? Can't remember? Ok, here's one that's more common...

When was the last time you got the hump with your engine reving its **** off whilst on the motorway holding half decent speeds?
Old 10 January 2008, 08:32 AM
  #85  
Az Sti Type R
Scooby Regular
 
Az Sti Type R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Feeding my car's addiction of V Power.
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Actually I used the DCCD on saturday night, thanks very much for asking.

And as for the engine revving its nuts of at a half decent speed, I'm very happy with it thanks! Its a weekend / pleasure car so it doesn't bother me, I enjoy it in fact, and I'm used to owning Honda's so that would explain why I don't mind a rev happy engine.
Old 10 January 2008, 08:36 AM
  #86  
Odds on
Scooby Regular
 
Odds on's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I doubt you was doing a trackday at night, so was it donuts in MaccyD's carpark?
Old 10 January 2008, 08:38 AM
  #87  
Az Sti Type R
Scooby Regular
 
Az Sti Type R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Feeding my car's addiction of V Power.
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Your a very funny man. Did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning? or not get any last night?
Old 10 January 2008, 08:42 AM
  #88  
gpssti4
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
gpssti4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Deepest Darkest Kernow
Posts: 4,404
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Az Sti Type R
Your a very funny man. Did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning? or not get any last night?
Don't worry, jealously does that to some people.
Old 10 January 2008, 08:42 AM
  #89  
Odds on
Scooby Regular
 
Odds on's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default



Seriously, what did you use the DCCD for Saturday night then?
Old 10 January 2008, 08:45 AM
  #90  
Az Sti Type R
Scooby Regular
 
Az Sti Type R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Feeding my car's addiction of V Power.
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Why does it matter what day or time I used it??!


Quick Reply: P1 or Type R?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:20 PM.