dpb

Prove this person arrived purely to receive "steal" healthcare ..!

GC8WRX

Right lads, my new missus is polish, she is here legally, but knows many who arent(which pisses me off!), my point is most of the illegal ones have seen a doctor and got a free perscription, or injured themselves somehow and gone to A&E for free treatment!

There are even websites written in polish but hosted on english servers, in england that advise the best way to get free stuff!!I didnt read that in the daily mail, its a fact!

If that doesnt prove its easy to get money out of this country, nothing will!

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Surely the NHS should make the immigration services aware when an illegal surfaces for treatment ?

jods

There's an old saying "Charity begins at home".

If we weren't turning UK Taxpayers down for healthcare needed then I'd say - Great, use any excess to assist those that need it on a case by case basis.

As it is, UK Citizens are NOT getting all the healthcare THEY have paid for so I'll be damned if funds are diverted to someone who has contributed precisely ZERO into the pot.

Sorry if this sounds harsh but I'll reiterate comments made previously.
I took my family on a holiday to the USA last year. My father fell sick - he felt dizzy and was vomiting. As he is on some pretty powerful medication for RA we thought we should get him checked out.

1. Visit to local health center. Took blood pressure, temperature and looked into his eyes. Verdict = Go to Hospital, Bill £200.

2. Visit to local hospital. took BP, temp, looked into eyes, took blood sample, took urine sample, CAT Scan, side room with bed for 2 hours, consultant visit for 15 mins. Bill £3500

They refused to accept proven insurance info - bill had to be paid by cash or credit card. Dad claimed the money back from Insurance on return to UK.

I suggest we adopt exactly the same approach here.

Bar-Humbug!

Not as far as i am aware, the NHS do not ask where people come from, see the links posted ot health tourism, mentions that there, they cannot work out the figurtes as no one is keeping score

Martin2005

So a logical extension of your arguement is that someone who pays more tax than you should get priority?

Oh and the old mantra of 'charity begins at home' is nearly always trotted out by people who aren't very charitable

scoobynutta555

You use quotes around steal, your point seems to be directed towards me, where have I said steal? Where also have I said this person arrived solely for healthcare?

In fact I don't understand your point at all and why it's directed at me, very strange indeed.

jods

Poppyc0ck - I'll bet that by far the majority of higher tax payers are paying twice.

One into the National pot and once for private healthcare - I'd say that is pretty charitable...

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

I already pay twice for dental care.

Martin2005

Well the NHS has certainly been stealing from Africa:

http://www.medact.org/content/Skills...204%20page.pdf

For all those scared and fearful people on this site, does this also seem right and just?

Bar-Humbug!

In the same way the Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders are cherry picking our medical people with better salaries and propects in their often better funded systems.

The NHS does not pay that well (obviously by the drain on our staff that the NHS trains and then leave for better prospects - and who can blame them)

We are replacing with what we can get from around the globe.

Whilst is is not right and in an ideal world this would not happen it does. We ate not the only ones at it either so lets not get too excited about a non-story shall we

kingofturds

iTrader: (1)

Wow look at the People of Ghana trying to get into the UK as it is "a good life" do the Peter brants and others actually work? or do you just love a free ride and expect others to have the same I am sorry but I work pay taxes and expect those taxes to be be spent on my son, not wasters

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

Slightly off topic, but don't you think whilst people say charity begins at home and such like, we should equally say that the 'wasters' we have here already who are British, not immigrants, who sit on benifits should also not be entitled to healthcare as they also do not contribute via taxes/NI?

scoobynutta555

That has been addressed earlier on the thread

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

My apologies, tried to follow the thread as it's been going along, but must have missed it, will go back and read more thouroughly.

daddyscoob

great idea until you fall on hard times an your kid gets ill and dies

Klaatu

Given that none of you actually know how immigration services work, and the length of time it can take to process a case, she clearly broke the law, was reciving medical treatment for some time, and now she's been returned home.

The health issue is being used as a smokecreen.

hamyam

just look at the vote

Martin2005

Being termanally ill is one hell of a convincing smokescreen

Martin2005

Yes, interesting isn't it

Klaatu

She wasn't when she contraviened her visa conditions, immigration services sometimes take a while to act. As a visitor she would have had to have medical insurance, clearly she didn't, she received treatment for a year on NHS while immigration were dealing with her case, and they do consider the whole situation before judging (Unlike Australia and Haneef). She wasn't permitted to work as a visitor and/or student and clearly neglected to adhere to the law. That's why immigration removed her. If she'd dealt with immigration in the proper maner, after all she had 5 years to do so, she'd still be in Wales. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

PeteBrant

Of course, I have been in full time employment for 21 years.

I just beleive in the common good.

PeteBrant

Scoobynet in right wing bias shocker.

You could easily go to another wbsite an get a completely reversed opinion.

PeteBrant

Eh? You get tax relief on private healthcare payments so, you aren't really paying twice at all.

stilover

I seriously doubt that. Unless it's a Human rights website or similar.

Or do all ****'s post on Scoobynet?

spireite

Good job she didn't need a dentist

PeteBrant

You seriously doubt it? Why? Does the fact that a Labour government has been voted in three times on the trot not give you a clue as to not every one has right wing tendencies?

This place is as extreme to the right as a Guardian forum is extreme to the left.

The majority is probably somewhere in the middle - But don't be under the illusion that Scoobynet is an accurate reflection of British opinion because it isn't.

Prasius

iTrader: (1)

Nonsense as well..

I get discounted Bupa membership as a member of the forces; and theres no way my rather small medical insurance bill gives me back the tax money I pay that managers in the NHS P*** up the wall every day.

PeteBrant

Nightmare. You should highlight this injustice to the people of Ghana.

stilover

Funny then that everyone I know thinks the same as me. Friends, work collegues, family.

Strike up a debate in a pub about how you'd like to see illegal immigrants given full medical care costing hundreds of millions of pounds of tax payers money. Tell them that even though they are here illegally, they should be allowed to stay to get the care required. Hell, while your at it, tell them that as they are recieving care they should be given a house too.

May I suggest you'd be the only one thinking this way. Some drunk may even pummel you for your views.