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Old 10 January 2008, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Obama could win this, the Christian Right doesn't look like having a candidate this time around, so they'll probably stay at home
Don't know about that - Mike Hukabee is an ordained Bapist minister and says polictics and faith are inseperable - having said that I suppose his surprising stance on gay rights and gun control don't make him overly popular with the Christian right.
Old 10 January 2008, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
CrisP has it - but the problem with Hillary is she's loved and hated with equal intensity.
That's why I think the women will swing it, because the for a large majority of them, upsetting their spouses would take priority over the good of the country
Old 10 January 2008, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
White America will not vote in a Black President.

Clinton it is then.
I don't follow your reasoning there

Obama and Clinton are only competing for the Democrat nomination, only one of them will then stand for president

To be honest the Republicans could put a trained chimp up against either of them and probably walk it. After all there is a precedent, they defeated Jimmy Carter with one
Old 10 January 2008, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
White America will not vote in a Black President.

Clinton it is then.
I bet you £100 you are wrong btw i do not give a rats *** who makes it but she has no chance
Old 10 January 2008, 01:47 PM
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If Hillary gets in how much of the job all will be influenced by Bill?

Maybe a fresh start is needed?
Old 10 January 2008, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Lewis Hamilton isn't black, then?
Well, is he? I can't see how having a white mother and a black father automatically qualifies someone as being black any more than they could be white which both Obama and Hamilton have.

Getting back to the issue of rednecks etc, what Barack is banking on is finally motivating the black vote which generally goes AWOL when there's some voting to be done, that and mobilising the disenfranchised electorate who've suffered under the current idiot's reign.

Mind you, after 2000 I suspect they'll **** it up again - just like the UK really.
Old 10 January 2008, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
Well, is he? I can't see how having a white mother and a black father automatically qualifies someone as being black any more than they could be white which both Obama and Hamilton have.
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Being the father of a Mixed race child, I can tell you now, the
world sees children with a one black and one white parent as being Black.
Old 10 January 2008, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by D6ale
If Hillary gets in how much of the job all will be influenced by Bill?
Well I think a fair bit of Bill's job was influenced by Hillary (health care restructuring anyone?), so it's a fair trade...
Old 10 January 2008, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Don't know about that - Mike Hukabee is an ordained Bapist minister and says polictics and faith are inseperable - having said that I suppose his surprising stance on gay rights and gun control don't make him overly popular with the Christian right.
He hasn't got a snowball's chance of getting the nomination though
Old 10 January 2008, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Well I think a fair bit of Bill's job was influenced by Hillary (health care restructuring anyone?), so it's a fair trade...
I want to see her elected to see if the first bill she puts to congress is called

"Actually, Bill, a Hummer does constitute sexual relations....oh, and those cigars were family airlooms you barsteward!"

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Old 10 January 2008, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
I want to see her elected to see if the first bill she puts to congress is called

"Actually, Bill, a Hummer does constitute sexual relations....oh, and those cigars were family airlooms you barsteward!"

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I think Bill will be volunteering to interview the 'inturns'




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