Just switched to 10% methanol – first impressions
17 January 2008, 05:26 PM
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Yeah, that's what put me off in the first place. I like the instant "go" with the current setup, but I AM curious. 
And i don't think i could justify the remap cost just for adding methanol.
Two months of quitting smoking and drinking and i could afford the lot.
And i don't think i could justify the remap cost just for adding methanol.
Two months of quitting smoking and drinking and i could afford the lot.
17 January 2008, 06:18 PM
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17 January 2008, 09:08 PM
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Paul has advised me that the low-boost 2nd map will be fine for those occasions I can't use methanol. Ideally though I'd like an ECU that can hold 3 full maps - one for funny fuel, one for neat V-Power and a boring low-boost economy map for use with 95RON in case I really am caught out
Latest version of SimTek boards and software will hold up to 8 map combinations....!
17 January 2008, 10:34 PM
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Methanol contains oxygen which improves power. One thing to be wary of is that adding methanol without mapping will cause leaner running, this is fine in most cases as the std map usually runs rich. It is however worth checking the AFR with a wideband lambda sensor just in case your car is already running lean, they are all different so there is no point risking it.
17 January 2008, 11:18 PM
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is this the stuff that you need ??
Methanol 99.95% 205L ( bio-diesel ) on eBay, also, Other Business Industrial, Business, Office Industrial (end time 18-Jan-08 15:59:08 GMT)
Methanol 99.95% 205L ( bio-diesel ) on eBay, also, Other Business Industrial, Business, Office Industrial (end time 18-Jan-08 15:59:08 GMT)
17 January 2008, 11:28 PM
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Nice thread.
Whilst I've enjoyed PSLewis's pixel fun and other stuff too whilst getting infracted and banned a few times [oops!], this really is just the kind of stuff I started visting SN to read.
The great write-up at the start gave a good flavour of someone's enjoyment at tweaking their motor. It's what Scoobies are about.
Thank you.
Whilst I've enjoyed PSLewis's pixel fun and other stuff too whilst getting infracted and banned a few times [oops!], this really is just the kind of stuff I started visting SN to read.
The great write-up at the start gave a good flavour of someone's enjoyment at tweaking their motor. It's what Scoobies are about.
Thank you.
18 January 2008, 12:50 AM
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is this the stuff that you need ??
Methanol 99.95% 205L ( bio-diesel ) on eBay, also, Other Business Industrial, Business, Office Industrial (end time 18-Jan-08 15:59:08 GMT)
Methanol 99.95% 205L ( bio-diesel ) on eBay, also, Other Business Industrial, Business, Office Industrial (end time 18-Jan-08 15:59:08 GMT)
"Just to fill up the car honey".
18 January 2008, 05:59 AM
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how do you guesstermate how much meth to put it? 10% but do you just go by your fuel gauge and hope for the best, how many miles your car is on?
i dont do very many miles in my car and think i would find it hard to guess how much of the stuff to put in, with out getting very low on the tank before filling up.
any tips on this?
i dont do very many miles in my car and think i would find it hard to guess how much of the stuff to put in, with out getting very low on the tank before filling up.
any tips on this?
18 January 2008, 08:55 AM
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how do you guesstermate how much meth to put it? 10% but do you just go by your fuel gauge and hope for the best, how many miles your car is on?
i dont do very many miles in my car and think i would find it hard to guess how much of the stuff to put in, with out getting very low on the tank before filling up.
any tips on this?
i dont do very many miles in my car and think i would find it hard to guess how much of the stuff to put in, with out getting very low on the tank before filling up.
any tips on this?
18 January 2008, 07:18 PM
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I was running 50/50 Methanol/Distilled water in my car until the WI pump started playing up. (I had it in a bad location).
I had it mapped out in the end as I was going to sell the car and wanted to make it more 'normal'. (Although it is all still plumbed in).
But it certainly did make a difference even with my big front mount and 650 injectors.
The reason I used distilled water is A, Jennychem is local to me so I can buy 50L drums and stick them in the boot. B, because I was only using a 0.4mm WI injector, I wasnted to avaoid impurities that might block it.
If you do go this route I would recommend spending out on an aquamist flow meter.
I had it mapped out in the end as I was going to sell the car and wanted to make it more 'normal'. (Although it is all still plumbed in).
But it certainly did make a difference even with my big front mount and 650 injectors.
The reason I used distilled water is A, Jennychem is local to me so I can buy 50L drums and stick them in the boot. B, because I was only using a 0.4mm WI injector, I wasnted to avaoid impurities that might block it.
If you do go this route I would recommend spending out on an aquamist flow meter.
18 January 2008, 07:22 PM
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Oh yeah, forgot to add,
The WI was triggered by the STI Auto water spray circuit (it is partly ECU mappable - boost/Inlet temp, I think) and the original waterspray bottle was used as the resevoir. I also used the original water spray pump as a priming/slave pump for the Aquamist one.
The WI was triggered by the STI Auto water spray circuit (it is partly ECU mappable - boost/Inlet temp, I think) and the original waterspray bottle was used as the resevoir. I also used the original water spray pump as a priming/slave pump for the Aquamist one.
18 January 2008, 07:57 PM
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Go to Liddle and get some of there "Freeway" bottles of lemonade, you then either drink or pour it down the drain and use the 2L bottles as Methanol containers!!!
the reason for the freeway bottles is the shape of the neck as it is a nice fit into the cars filler and you dont get any spills unlike asdas lemonade bottles....lol
its dead easy, one lemonade bottle of methanol = 20L of fuel.
NF does not realy like to be mixed with methanol directly but if you put your methanol in the tank first, stick a bit of petrol in then your NF and continue filling up with shells finest it should mix fine
I have not been using NF yet with mine and sadly wont as im selling my car so I can get a house (was planning on Methanol + NF to give me 400 bhp crank with my vf35!!!)
I have been using the same lomonade bottles for over a year now with no leaking problems.
Graeme
the reason for the freeway bottles is the shape of the neck as it is a nice fit into the cars filler and you dont get any spills unlike asdas lemonade bottles....lol
its dead easy, one lemonade bottle of methanol = 20L of fuel.
NF does not realy like to be mixed with methanol directly but if you put your methanol in the tank first, stick a bit of petrol in then your NF and continue filling up with shells finest it should mix fine
I have not been using NF yet with mine and sadly wont as im selling my car so I can get a house (was planning on Methanol + NF to give me 400 bhp crank with my vf35!!!)
I have been using the same lomonade bottles for over a year now with no leaking problems.
Graeme
Last edited by G.Mac; 18 January 2008 at 08:00 PM.
18 January 2008, 08:46 PM
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Go to Liddle and get some of there "Freeway" bottles of lemonade, you then either drink or pour it down the drain and use the 2L bottles as Methanol containers!!!
the reason for the freeway bottles is the shape of the neck as it is a nice fit into the cars filler and you dont get any spills unlike asdas lemonade bottles....lol
its dead easy, one lemonade bottle of methanol = 20L of fuel.
NF does not realy like to be mixed with methanol directly but if you put your methanol in the tank first, stick a bit of petrol in then your NF and continue filling up with shells finest it should mix fine
I have not been using NF yet with mine and sadly wont as im selling my car so I can get a house (was planning on Methanol + NF to give me 400 bhp crank with my vf35!!!)
I have been using the same lomonade bottles for over a year now with no leaking problems.
Graeme
the reason for the freeway bottles is the shape of the neck as it is a nice fit into the cars filler and you dont get any spills unlike asdas lemonade bottles....lol
its dead easy, one lemonade bottle of methanol = 20L of fuel.
NF does not realy like to be mixed with methanol directly but if you put your methanol in the tank first, stick a bit of petrol in then your NF and continue filling up with shells finest it should mix fine
I have not been using NF yet with mine and sadly wont as im selling my car so I can get a house (was planning on Methanol + NF to give me 400 bhp crank with my vf35!!!)
I have been using the same lomonade bottles for over a year now with no leaking problems.
Graeme
Just one thing though, if you're using 10% methanol, 2L of methanol = 18L of Shell's finest
19 January 2008, 03:36 AM
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So.... what REAL increase does Methanol actually give?
Based on 500bhp for arguments sake, what increase would I expect with a safe mix of meth and VPower? How much ignition advance could be had?
How would this compare to me running VP Import (120+ octane)?
So.... what REAL increase does Methanol actually give?
Based on 500bhp for arguments sake, what increase would I expect with a safe mix of meth and VPower? How much ignition advance could be had?
How would this compare to me running VP Import (120+ octane)?