scooby-tc

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all sorted now mate

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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Not so

Seem to remember beating an Escort Cos in my standard UK Turbo - proven too :cool@



But I'm quite happy to meet fatman's sis if she is a petrolhead

BOB.T

It's horses for course really, I don't think you can say one is better than the other

Also, I've never owned a Scoob I've driven a couple, mainly an STI8 to Germany and back. The Scoob is quicker outright, no doubting that but the ST wouldn't be that far behind. I would say the ST is much easier to live with day to day, I find the driving position much better, the steering friendlier and the clutch much easier to control. The main difference for me, nail the ST and it'll go dead straight all day long, I found the Scoob lurched around on gear changes...didn't like that at all and found it off putting.

I put them equal on burbleiness, especially with a Magnex on the ST

ScoTTyB

Standard they're both similar horsepower, the difference is 90% of cossies these days are 100bhp more than standard, if not more, where as alot of UK turbo's are still standard, or close to it.

dohc_turbo

ha i took a 07 st for a test drive last year and even my misses said it slow.
and she was right for a change.
the seat were nice tho.

Gilesdwrc

Sat in a ST today, V comfy seats compaired to my sport.

"The main difference for me, nail the ST and it'll go dead straight all day long, I found the Scoob lurched around on gear changes...didn't like that at all and found it off putting."

Ever heard of torque steer? All the road tests I've read says they torque steer like a pig.

Tony MY03WRX

Nahh very little torque steer, torque is limited in first and second gear for this very reason. Now if you want torque steer try an Astra VXR but still a great car....

BOB.T

Ever tried listening to someone who knows what they're on about? I own an ST, I drive it all the time, it doesn't torque steer and yes I do know what torque steer is, thanks!

Scoobychick

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I drive both an ST and an STi, the STi torque steers, the ST doesn't.

20withascooby

my little standard wrx import beat a st easy but then u get the focus rs thts a bit harder lol

New_scooby_04

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Er, no. Simple as. Type R power to weight and torque to weight superior by some margin, then there is the shorter gearing etc...

BTW Tell her, to "blow someone away" you'll need significantly more power...i.e. certainly above a 100 bhp advantage, assuming aimilar weight, of course! ;D

New_scooby_04

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BTW the reason a ST doesn't torque steer is that torque is capped in the first two gears, which in my view, indicated that the power is too much for the FWD layout.