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22 January 2008, 05:10 PM
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Pontificating
Not my argument I know but I couldn't resist
Mmmm 
or is this considered as trolling.Anyway Snazy a friend of mine drives for Camden, moving the dignitaries about and according to him whenever KL has to go to a function he makes his driver park around the corner so he can give the impression he used public transport when strolling round the corner, all the drivers are aware of this and rib KL's driver something rotten.
22 January 2008, 05:14 PM
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Are we talking Carbon ? or are you just being fattest
Not my argument I know but I couldn't resist Mmmm or is this considered as trolling.
Anyway Snazy a friend of mine drives for Camden, moving the dignitaries about and according to him whenever KL has to go to a function he makes his driver park around the corner so he can give the impression he used public transport when strolling round the corner, all the drivers are aware of this and rib KL's driver something rotten.
Not my argument I know but I couldn't resist
Mmmm or is this considered as trolling.Anyway Snazy a friend of mine drives for Camden, moving the dignitaries about and according to him whenever KL has to go to a function he makes his driver park around the corner so he can give the impression he used public transport when strolling round the corner, all the drivers are aware of this and rib KL's driver something rotten.
lol Ken would insist he ALWAYS uses public transport, and is a self confessed hater of cars. Famously quoted years back saying if he could he would ban cars.
lol @ the carbon footprint.... not my arguement either, just some random plank trying to upset a grown man by calling me fat and bitching about my dog... bless
Probably lives under a bridge somewhere, where all trolls live
22 January 2008, 06:26 PM
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can't beleive somebody else beat me to the infact button
sorrys but it's true and my opinion.....
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22 January 2008, 06:31 PM
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Seems to have a skill of pissing people off. Aaah well, boys eh
Just noticed, 3 infractions, oops, best time to STFU I guess.
Glad I was not the only one who thought it was a little pathetic.
22 January 2008, 06:39 PM
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22 January 2008, 06:45 PM
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I went out round Muswell Hill about 6 months ago..
Apparently its one of the better places to live in London..
Peronally i thought it was Scruffy,dirty and just awful,it was like Accrington with a few more BMW's scattered about..
Went out for "drinks" and some food,did £240 in between 4 of us and came home sober as a judge..
Can usually get lathered and fatted up for £40 round me locally..
And its true,the beer is like Urine.......
Apparently its one of the better places to live in London..
Peronally i thought it was Scruffy,dirty and just awful,it was like Accrington with a few more BMW's scattered about..
Went out for "drinks" and some food,did £240 in between 4 of us and came home sober as a judge..
Can usually get lathered and fatted up for £40 round me locally..
And its true,the beer is like Urine.......
22 January 2008, 06:47 PM
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Personally I would not call Muswell Hill one of the better places. But each to their own 
Where did ya go @ £60 a head?
As per the other, just depends where you end up going. Sure you can eat and drink far cheaper round there too.
Where did ya go @ £60 a head?
As per the other, just depends where you end up going. Sure you can eat and drink far cheaper round there too.
22 January 2008, 06:58 PM
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Muswell Hill is ok but clogged with traffic. Garbage for a night out too, as you found out lol
22 January 2008, 06:58 PM
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We went to a Pizza express..Then went out and hit a few pubs..
To be honest i know nothing about London and its area's..But my friend has paid £850,000 for a terraced 3 bed house n Muswell hill..!!!
Near me that equates to a 6 bed farmhouse,indoor pool and 6 acres..
Im sure holds some attraction,i just ant find it..
We also visited Harringay and Tottenham..Truly horrible places..
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Snazy, you're right, London is a big place - like a collection of villages.
Leslie, I didn't catch where in London you came from, so am not sure why you don't like it.
As for the original £400 for a few drinks, all I can say is a fool and his money are easily parted.
Muswell Hill - lovely atmosphere, fab shops and a village feeling. The right sort of people live there. We should all aspire to live there!
It seems that most people from outside London don't realise that there is more to London than Oxford Street and Leicester Square. Get out to the suburbs, become part of the community and you'll see.
Would I swap Finchley for Milton Keynes - you've got to be kidding!
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Leslie, I didn't catch where in London you came from, so am not sure why you don't like it.
As for the original £400 for a few drinks, all I can say is a fool and his money are easily parted.
Muswell Hill - lovely atmosphere, fab shops and a village feeling. The right sort of people live there. We should all aspire to live there!
It seems that most people from outside London don't realise that there is more to London than Oxford Street and Leicester Square. Get out to the suburbs, become part of the community and you'll see.
Would I swap Finchley for Milton Keynes - you've got to be kidding!
Howard
22 January 2008, 07:03 PM
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We went to a Pizza express..Then went out and hit a few pubs..
To be honest i know nothing about London and its area's..But my friend has paid £850,000 for a terraced 3 bed house n Muswell hill..!!!
Near me that equates to a 6 bed farmhouse,indoor pool and 6 acres..
Im sure holds some attraction,i just ant find it..
We also visited Harringay and Tottenham..Truly horrible places..
To be honest i know nothing about London and its area's..But my friend has paid £850,000 for a terraced 3 bed house n Muswell hill..!!!
Near me that equates to a 6 bed farmhouse,indoor pool and 6 acres..
Im sure holds some attraction,i just ant find it..
We also visited Harringay and Tottenham..Truly horrible places..
You'd be paying about 30% more for the same house a mile west in Highgate. Crazy, but people pay it.
22 January 2008, 07:07 PM
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2 bedroom flat for sale in Hornsey, London N8
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You may as well buy a decent place in a satelite town with 1/3 of the crime for that. Where I live now you can just about get a 2 bed flat for £250k, and I'm 35 miles out of London.
22 January 2008, 07:17 PM
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Snazy, you're right, London is a big place - like a collection of villages.
Leslie, I didn't catch where in London you came from, so am not sure why you don't like it.
As for the original £400 for a few drinks, all I can say is a fool and his money are easily parted.
Muswell Hill - lovely atmosphere, fab shops and a village feeling. The right sort of people live there. We should all aspire to live there!
It seems that most people from outside London don't realise that there is more to London than Oxford Street and Leicester Square. Get out to the suburbs, become part of the community and you'll see.
Would I swap Finchley for Milton Keynes - you've got to be kidding!
Howard
Leslie, I didn't catch where in London you came from, so am not sure why you don't like it.
As for the original £400 for a few drinks, all I can say is a fool and his money are easily parted.
Muswell Hill - lovely atmosphere, fab shops and a village feeling. The right sort of people live there. We should all aspire to live there!
It seems that most people from outside London don't realise that there is more to London than Oxford Street and Leicester Square. Get out to the suburbs, become part of the community and you'll see.
Would I swap Finchley for Milton Keynes - you've got to be kidding!
Howard
House prices, well the house on the other side of me just sold for just under 2 million. Thats broken into 6 325k flats.
The average round here is prob 200k for a 2 bed flat. 4 bed town house in the next road was up for 550k about 6-7 years ago.
House prices around London vary widely, as widely as the nature of the areas do. Price of house does not equate to nice area either.
Speaking of Mayfair, a few years back there was a 1 bed roof top studio apartment in Carlos Place, for I think 2.1 million. 4th floor and no lift lol.
Next stop, Florida, far more space and value for money houses. Once the economy settles lol
22 January 2008, 08:51 PM
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Yep MK is such a horrible place, no traffic, good roads loads of parking low crime, with loads of top quality inedpendant places to eat on the outskirts. lots of wide open spaces all over the city. Going back into London is like going to some diseased dirty den of iniquity full of deluded people who think that they are the centre of the world runing around like rats in a never ending maze. Plus you all have to put up with red ken and antipodean barmen trying to short pour your cocktails.
* for example -
Jeremy Clarkson quizzed over hoody row - Times Online
22 January 2008, 09:23 PM
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I visit the City and central London around once a month on business and find it a fantastic, vibrant place to be honest. From what I recall the centre of MK on the other hand is a chav-filled cesspool* that I am glad never to have to visit again in this lifetime! Good Indian restaurant by the station though
* for example -
Jeremy Clarkson quizzed over hoody row - Times Online
* for example -
Jeremy Clarkson quizzed over hoody row - Times Online
Over to Luan.....
Sometimes its worth paying a little more
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I have lived in Harrow, Eltham and Plumstead and I used to use my dads flats which were on davies street by claridges hotel so I do know a little about different areas of the smoke.
Vibrant yes London is vibrant. Full of ***** yes London is FULL od *****. Only Londoners are thick enough to let antipodeans sell them tradtional English pub food as a new novelty cusine. Only a gallery in london would exhibit a pickled cow and call it art and only in London are people convinced they are somehow more important just because they live in a polluted ****e hole.
Vibrant yes London is vibrant. Full of ***** yes London is FULL od *****. Only Londoners are thick enough to let antipodeans sell them tradtional English pub food as a new novelty cusine. Only a gallery in london would exhibit a pickled cow and call it art and only in London are people convinced they are somehow more important just because they live in a polluted ****e hole.
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Lived there (in Angel... 4 doors from Tony Blair just before he came to power.. )for a few years.
Never again will I live there... I prefer a proper city that works, is safe, and really IS 24hours...
Never again will I live there... I prefer a proper city that works, is safe, and really IS 24hours...
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23 January 2008, 07:37 AM
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I have lived in Harrow, Eltham and Plumstead and I used to use my dads flats which were on davies street by claridges hotel so I do know a little about different areas of the smoke.
Vibrant yes London is vibrant. Full of ***** yes London is FULL od *****. Only Londoners are thick enough to let antipodeans sell them tradtional English pub food as a new novelty cusine. Only a gallery in london would exhibit a pickled cow and call it art and only in London are people convinced they are somehow more important just because they live in a polluted ****e hole.
Vibrant yes London is vibrant. Full of ***** yes London is FULL od *****. Only Londoners are thick enough to let antipodeans sell them tradtional English pub food as a new novelty cusine. Only a gallery in london would exhibit a pickled cow and call it art and only in London are people convinced they are somehow more important just because they live in a polluted ****e hole.
Harsh.........but fair!!
23 January 2008, 08:41 AM
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I have lived in Harrow, Eltham and Plumstead and I used to use my dads flats which were on davies street by claridges hotel so I do know a little about different areas of the smoke.
Vibrant yes London is vibrant. Full of ***** yes London is FULL od *****. Only Londoners are thick enough to let antipodeans sell them tradtional English pub food as a new novelty cusine. Only a gallery in london would exhibit a pickled cow and call it art and only in London are people convinced they are somehow more important just because they live in a polluted ****e hole.
Vibrant yes London is vibrant. Full of ***** yes London is FULL od *****. Only Londoners are thick enough to let antipodeans sell them tradtional English pub food as a new novelty cusine. Only a gallery in london would exhibit a pickled cow and call it art and only in London are people convinced they are somehow more important just because they live in a polluted ****e hole.
Personally I dont feel "important" because I live in London, but I like where I live.
You dont like the overcrowded atmosphere of London, fair enough, but in reality it does not really justify the picture you paint.
As for the galleries and pub food, this just goes to prove how ignorant you are being about the place does it not? London is FAR from the only place. Remove blinkers, get out a bit more, and try and reach the chip on your shoulder.
Eltham, Plumsted and Harrow are hardly the be all and end all of the entire area of London. Not the worst areas, but hardly shining examples of what London has to offer anyone interested in the place.
At the end of the day, you dont like London, but please dont try and make out its the worst place in the country just because you got mugged off paying £400 for a night out.
PS, so whats your feelings about the MK crime figures..... being over the national average..... far from perfect eh, but I still like visiting the place.
23 January 2008, 09:39 AM
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Guess most people's views of London seem to be relative to where they actually live themselves......
Living in the country 10 miles outside Edinburgh I find the comparison quite marked whenever I am forced to visit London.....
Negatives
The people appear cold, unfriendly and unhelpful to visitors. Although I've found this in many large cities, I'd say London is one of the the worst that I've encountered. (On a par with Paris!!)
In general prices seem crazily high and I don't mean property or booze, but general day to day expenses....(bearing in mind that Edinburgh isn't exactly a cheap place to live or work in).
The actual state of the city appears neglected, run down and dirty to me. It's as if no thought has ever been given to planning or aesthetics, it's just a case of 'if a building fits then cram it in'.
The quality of the water is diabolical and I don't just mean for drinking. The water is so hard it's disgusting.
It's always a relief to get out of London and be able to wash away that grime that gets in your hair and up your nose, I guess similar can be said of many of the largest cities but I genuinely struggle to ever feel clean in London due to a combination of the city grime and the hard water.
Positives
I'm sure there are many, but apart from the main tourist attractions (which are undoubtedly impressive) the positives are not always obvious to tourists or people visiting on business. Like anywhere, I guess you have to live there to fully appreciate the better bits of life that go on and the side of London life that Snazy defends.....
I'm not a fan but I can appreciate that anyone is bound to defend where they have grown up......and I suppose your opinion depends on whether you like city life or are a country dwelling city loather like myself
Living in the country 10 miles outside Edinburgh I find the comparison quite marked whenever I am forced to visit London.....
Negatives
The people appear cold, unfriendly and unhelpful to visitors. Although I've found this in many large cities, I'd say London is one of the the worst that I've encountered. (On a par with Paris!!)
In general prices seem crazily high and I don't mean property or booze, but general day to day expenses....(bearing in mind that Edinburgh isn't exactly a cheap place to live or work in).
The actual state of the city appears neglected, run down and dirty to me. It's as if no thought has ever been given to planning or aesthetics, it's just a case of 'if a building fits then cram it in'.
The quality of the water is diabolical and I don't just mean for drinking. The water is so hard it's disgusting.
It's always a relief to get out of London and be able to wash away that grime that gets in your hair and up your nose, I guess similar can be said of many of the largest cities but I genuinely struggle to ever feel clean in London due to a combination of the city grime and the hard water.
Positives
I'm sure there are many, but apart from the main tourist attractions (which are undoubtedly impressive) the positives are not always obvious to tourists or people visiting on business. Like anywhere, I guess you have to live there to fully appreciate the better bits of life that go on and the side of London life that Snazy defends.....
I'm not a fan but I can appreciate that anyone is bound to defend where they have grown up......and I suppose your opinion depends on whether you like city life or are a country dwelling city loather like myself
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Guess most people's views of London seem to be relative to where they actually live themselves......
Living in the country 10 miles outside Edinburgh I find the comparison quite marked whenever I am forced to visit London.....
Negatives
The people appear cold, unfriendly and unhelpful to visitors. Although I've found this in many large cities, I'd say London is one of the the worst that I've encountered. (On a par with Paris!!)
In general prices seem crazily high and I don't mean property or booze, but general day to day expenses....(bearing in mind that Edinburgh isn't exactly a cheap place to live or work in).
The actual state of the city appears neglected, run down and dirty to me. It's as if no thought has ever been given to planning or aesthetics, it's just a case of 'if a building fits then cram it in'.
The quality of the water is diabolical and I don't just mean for drinking. The water is so hard it's disgusting.
It's always a relief to get out of London and be able to wash away that grime that gets in your hair and up your nose, I guess similar can be said of many of the largest cities but I genuinely struggle to ever feel clean in London due to a combination of the city grime and the hard water.
Positives
I'm sure there are many, but apart from the main tourist attractions (which are undoubtedly impressive) the positives are not always obvious to tourists or people visiting on business. Like anywhere, I guess you have to live there to fully appreciate the better bits of life that go on and the side of London life that Snazy defends.....
I'm not a fan but I can appreciate that anyone is bound to defend where they have grown up......and I suppose your opinion depends on whether you like city life or are a country dwelling city loather like myself
Living in the country 10 miles outside Edinburgh I find the comparison quite marked whenever I am forced to visit London.....
Negatives
The people appear cold, unfriendly and unhelpful to visitors. Although I've found this in many large cities, I'd say London is one of the the worst that I've encountered. (On a par with Paris!!)
In general prices seem crazily high and I don't mean property or booze, but general day to day expenses....(bearing in mind that Edinburgh isn't exactly a cheap place to live or work in).
The actual state of the city appears neglected, run down and dirty to me. It's as if no thought has ever been given to planning or aesthetics, it's just a case of 'if a building fits then cram it in'.
The quality of the water is diabolical and I don't just mean for drinking. The water is so hard it's disgusting.
It's always a relief to get out of London and be able to wash away that grime that gets in your hair and up your nose, I guess similar can be said of many of the largest cities but I genuinely struggle to ever feel clean in London due to a combination of the city grime and the hard water.
Positives
I'm sure there are many, but apart from the main tourist attractions (which are undoubtedly impressive) the positives are not always obvious to tourists or people visiting on business. Like anywhere, I guess you have to live there to fully appreciate the better bits of life that go on and the side of London life that Snazy defends.....
I'm not a fan but I can appreciate that anyone is bound to defend where they have grown up......and I suppose your opinion depends on whether you like city life or are a country dwelling city loather like myself
A far fairer comparison lol.
Living in an open area, of course you notice the air quality difference. The hustle and bustle of the busy streets is not the friendliest enviroment, but the people in general are really not that bad. Its all a front lol.
I dont defent London for pride reasons or anything else, but just think that the basic view Luan gives is a rather blinkered view, and rather one sided too.
This one however is a little fairer.
Again with pricing, if you shop on the main streets in the centre of town, of course they will be higher, sadly its capital cities all over. When I visit Florida I go shopping with a friend who lives there to find the normal prices not the tourist prices.
Central London is a tourist area, maximum prifit, minimum effort, that cant be forgotton.
Im sure MK does not get quite as many tourists seeing "the sights"
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I am a Londoner born and bred - My kids still live up there, but I live on the South Coast. I moved away from there when I was 29. I am now 36, would I go back? Not a chance.
It took a while to get used to life outside the big smoke, but once I did, i found that the quality of life outside london was somewhat better.
My next move will probably see me go oop North, where, invariably whenever i have visited friends etc, people are in general, much more friendly and approachable in my experience.
It took a while to get used to life outside the big smoke, but once I did, i found that the quality of life outside london was somewhat better.
My next move will probably see me go oop North, where, invariably whenever i have visited friends etc, people are in general, much more friendly and approachable in my experience.
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Again with pricing, if you shop on the main streets in the centre of town, of course they will be higher, sadly its capital cities all over. When I visit Florida I go shopping with a friend who lives there to find the normal prices not the tourist prices.
Central London is a tourist area, maximum prifit, minimum effort, that cant be forgotton.
Central London is a tourist area, maximum prifit, minimum effort, that cant be forgotton.
My next move will probably see me go oop North, where, invariably whenever i have visited friends etc, people are in general, much more friendly and approachable in my experience.
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I think I'd rather stay down here thanks