Dream Weaver

I would imagine the most I could possibly save by switching stuff off would be about £100 a year, and figures like that don't intereste my one bit. I don't believe in global warming at all, but I do belive in pay as you go, especially with electricity.

Fair enough if you have an Ipod and Archos (I don't), but if you already have a PSP and a PS3 then it makes sense, and please remember the PS3 can be on standby so it isn't wasting anything 24/7 except maybe the odd penny. How do you charge your Ipod and Archos when not in use?

SirFozzalot

That reason, for me, is why I didn't buy an Xbox 360, how any company can get away with selling a product with such poor reliability and yet still have so many devout followers is beyond me!

bob269

Maybe because the product is worth having?

Just because the 360 is unreliable doesn't mean i'd snub it and go out and buy a Snes purely because it's reliable.

SirFozzalot

But for me it isn't worth having if every few months I have to package it up and send it away, wait up to 3 weeks (sometimes longer) before I can use it again, that's disgraceful.

SirFozzalot

If the car you drive or the TV you watch did the same thing and you knew it before you bought it, would you still have bought one?

RB5-Black

I have two 360's and none have gone pop yet !!

and it's not through lack of playing, other than messiah (gamerscore *****) my gamerscore if up with the uber geeks

andrewdelvard

Good question.
My missus bought me an X-Box as a surprise Christmas present. Its been faultless so far and a lot of fun.
However if she'd asked me if I'd wanted one for Christmas I would have said no. This decision would have been based on the rrod issues that are to my mind, unacceptably high. If analogies are being thrown around here's mine.
Its a bit like owning a TVR. Lovely to look at, amazing performance but sooner or later its all going to go wrong.
Its an entirely personal decision, a micro indicator of ones patience level, whether thats acceptable or not.

SirFozzalot

Agreed.

bob269

There are 100's of tv's which ultimately do the same thing, so yes if one had reliablity issues i'd choose a different brand, same with cars, however, there is only 1 xbox360 to play xbox360 games and 1 xbl, so the choice is gone

Back in the days of the 3DO there were several manufacturers making 1 console so you did have a choice.

andrewdelvard

3DO wasn't a choice under any circumstances

KiwiGTI

But you have to look at reality. Most users haven't had a problem. I had one RROD on my launch console after nearly 2 years, which I gave to my brother (who got it fixed for free in NZ - pretty good service really) and bought myself an Elite.

The fact is I have had 2+ years of "next generation gaming" with some of the best titles ever seen on a console. Hundreds of hours of pleasure.

AllenJ

There will always be the debate of xBox 360 vs PS3.

Having had both, PS3 all the way for me, just for the blu ray.
What's the point having a full digital TV and watching upscaled dvds ?

Games are currently limited, but patience is a virtue.

Iain Young

Because they don't look much different, and are a lot cheaper (at the moment)

AllenJ

Ok fair enough in terms of difference, but the cost of both a blu ray player and an XBox is surely more than that of a PS3.

AllenJ

Iain,
I've just seen your post of the other thread, HD DVD vs Blu ray.

I'll like to know your opinion once your PS3 arrives, hope you enjoy it better than the xBox(es).

Iain Young

Yep, but you can get better blu-ray players than the one in the PS3, so when I finally decide to make the jump up to HD discs, I'll get a better quality standalone player

p.s. I'll let you know about the PS3. Nearly went down town and paid full whack for one this lunchtime. Really cheesed off with the 360 at the moment...

messiah

eh? what? sorry I dont speak to people with less than 30k...

...and I dont even have "avatar" on my games list <cough> bob <cough>

Geezer

Mmmm, I've seen both upscaled and Blu-Ray on my 1080p screen, and the difference is noticeable. The information simply isn't there on DVD, and although the upscalers do a damn fine job, in the wider shots you can very clearly see the difference. Detail in far objects is very clear on BLu-Ray.

Admittedly, on close up stuff, the difference isn't as much as you'd like.

Geezer

bob269

damn, i thought i'd played enough games since to hide it

I just found this quote on another site talking about the remote psp/ps3 connection, thought it was quite funny.

Dream Weaver

All becomes clear having just read through the parts of this thread I missed. I thought bob269 and Iain had both a 360 and a PS3 each, but I now realise they are just 360 owners so that explains a lot of the MS fanboy behaviour

I have both machines, the 360 cost me about double what I paid for the PS3 () once I bought all the extras but it doesn't offer double the fun.

As for the PS3 Blu Ray player - it gets good reviews across the gadget and home cinema mags I read so thats a real bonus, although I haven't got my HDTV yet as I'm waiting for the new Panny range next month so can't comment yet.

Biggest question remains - GTA is out 29th April, which machine do I buy it for?

Iain Young

If you really had read all of the posts you would have realised that I'm sick to the back teeth of the 360, and if I didn't have so much invested in it I'd chuck it in the bin tomorrow...

and don't get me started about gameplay technical support. Suffice to say, I won't be ordering anything from there again

bob269

You may have noticed if you've read all threads i've not once slagged off the ps3, i've nothing against it its a great machine, i've simply put the 360's side forward when people say why the ps3 is supposedly better and more feature packed, and the so called reasons why the 360 is bad

Dream Weaver

PS3 is more feature packed, end of story

360 has good accessories though.

kbsub

Its also the best Blu Ray player out there at the moment and Its upgradable via updates

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