View Poll Results: Would you report an illegal immigrant?
Yes, damn right I would, we've enough here already.
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Martin you are a good person, i see that in yours posts So i will Un-Tosh you
As for the 'Quoted' above. Isnt that what religion is for nowdays? To give your actions an excuse? Religion is a tool. Muslims have managed to convince many weak minded that it is ok to kill yourself and others in the name of Islam.
As for the 'Quoted' above. Isnt that what religion is for nowdays? To give your actions an excuse? Religion is a tool. Muslims have managed to convince many weak minded that it is ok to kill yourself and others in the name of Islam.
Fundamentalism in any religion is dangerous, and always based upon exploiting the the weak minded. Islamic fundamentalism is as political as it is religious, it's wrong, stupid and doomed to failure.
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If you believe in the Abrahmic god, then as well as being a theist you're either Jewish, Christian or Muslim. If you believe that Christ is the saviour, you're a Christian. That's it, the only requirement.
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Martin you are a good person, i see that in yours posts So i will Un-Tosh you
As for the 'Quoted' above. Isnt that what religion is for nowdays? To give your actions an excuse? Religion is a tool. Muslims have managed to convince many weak minded that it is ok to kill yourself and others in the name of Islam.
As for the 'Quoted' above. Isnt that what religion is for nowdays? To give your actions an excuse? Religion is a tool. Muslims have managed to convince many weak minded that it is ok to kill yourself and others in the name of Islam.
Unfortunately, religion is open to abuse by people in power, and so can be used as a dangerous tool at times, to further their power over people through fear, however, if you remove religion, they would find some other way of meeting their own ends as these people just want control over others and religion is a convenient excuse.
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No you're right it doesn't, but it also doesn't mean that we live in a 'christian country' either
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Please tell me why you keep coming back at my posts using the word 'commited'.
In none of my posts did i use this word, so dont twist things to make your aurgument sound more reasonable.
What is a 'commited' Christian? someone that does not drink? **********? have sex before marriage? swear? The list goes on and on.
If you wanted to go on that basis id say that Christianity was almost dead.
And so would many other religions.
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Well if recent news is anything to go by they don't get health care. What about the dying woman from Ghana we threw out when her visa expired? Is that where we want the line to be drawn, is that what we've become?
There's way too much Daily Mail headline driven hysteria going on, time for cool heads me thinks, if we're ever going to solve this 'problem'
There's also a fairly fuzzy line in some people views on here between legal and illegal immigration. Scratch the surface and what people are really upset about is cultural changes that are happening in this country, 'illegals' are just an easy target.
There's way too much Daily Mail headline driven hysteria going on, time for cool heads me thinks, if we're ever going to solve this 'problem'
There's also a fairly fuzzy line in some people views on here between legal and illegal immigration. Scratch the surface and what people are really upset about is cultural changes that are happening in this country, 'illegals' are just an easy target.
But that was just one person how many other's havent been found and deported geting something for nothing.
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Religion has always been abused by those out for their own ends, the power hungry. Some Muslims are doing that now, as many Christians are and certainly have done in Britain. These are the people who twist religion and make it come across as a tool, and bad. However, religion for most who follow it, in it's true form, this is not the case. It is a way of life, which should be about tolerance and respect for others, and for the majority of people, this is most likely to be the way in which they live their religious life.
Unfortunately, religion is open to abuse by people in power, and so can be used as a dangerous tool at times, to further their power over people through fear, however, if you remove religion, they would find some other way of meeting their own ends as these people just want control over others and religion is a convenient excuse.
Unfortunately, religion is open to abuse by people in power, and so can be used as a dangerous tool at times, to further their power over people through fear, however, if you remove religion, they would find some other way of meeting their own ends as these people just want control over others and religion is a convenient excuse.
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For the love of dog. A better man than I once said "atheism is as much a belief as not collecting stamps is a hobby".
theism is the belief in a god or gods
a- means without
atheism - without the belief in god or gods. No belief, just the abscence there of.
Now if you want to try and claim that atheism is the "belief that no gods exist", well fine, but you have the definition of the word incorrect and are presenting a position that most atheists do not claim. The "strong" atheists may well claim such, but they are few and far between.
theism is the belief in a god or gods
a- means without
atheism - without the belief in god or gods. No belief, just the abscence there of.
Now if you want to try and claim that atheism is the "belief that no gods exist", well fine, but you have the definition of the word incorrect and are presenting a position that most atheists do not claim. The "strong" atheists may well claim such, but they are few and far between.
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And so the merry go round turns.
Who knows better than those asked if they are a member of the Christian denomination and believe in JC, I guess they do.
Me giving £10 to oxfam once does not make me a philanthropist.
I'd agree, donation is in the plural. Give £10 twice and it may be a different story.
a religious person who believes Jesus is the Christ and who is a member of a Christian denomination
Me giving £10 to oxfam once does not make me a philanthropist.
someone who makes charitable donations intended to increase human well-being
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For the love of dog. A better man than I once said "atheism is as much a belief as not collecting stamps is a hobby".
theism is the belief in a god or gods
a- means without
atheism - without the belief in god or gods. No belief, just the abscence there of.
Now if you want to try and claim that atheism is the "belief that no gods exist", well fine, but you have the definition of the word incorrect and are presenting a position that most atheists do not claim. The "strong" atheists may well claim such, but they are few and far between.
theism is the belief in a god or gods
a- means without
atheism - without the belief in god or gods. No belief, just the abscence there of.
Now if you want to try and claim that atheism is the "belief that no gods exist", well fine, but you have the definition of the word incorrect and are presenting a position that most atheists do not claim. The "strong" atheists may well claim such, but they are few and far between.
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Persoanlly I don't think C of E stands for Aetheist, Agnostic or Arch Bishop - I think it stands for Apathetic.
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Who knows better than those asked if they are a member of the Christian denomination and believe in JC, I guess they do.
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If the answer is "not many" or less than that, the default position is atheism.
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He certainly wasn't called Jesus, that's just a translation issue. His real name in pre-exilic Hebrew was Yehoshua or in the Second Temple period Yeshua or Joshua. The joys of going from word of mouth through a couple of intermediary languages before you get to English.
But you struggle to find much evidence for "Christ" outside the new testament to be honest. There are a couple of references to a Jesus in some Judaic writings of the time, but they are suspected to have been forged, largely because it wouldn't have said "Jesus" in the text anyway it would have said "Yehoshua".
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I wouldn't say you were a Christian from that either. If you had said you believe that Christ is your saviour, then I'd say you probably were.
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Thank you, I have defined "Christian" twice now in about 8 words, but maybe you're version will sink in better.
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atheism doesn't require a justifcation of the position, it's the opposite of a belief in god(s). If you don't have a belief in god(s) you are an atheist, ignorant or not.
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Now we start to get in to gnostic and agnostic. Most theists are agnostic as are most atheists. To claim to be gnostic you must have knowledge of something. As very few people claim absolutely the existance (or not) of a god (as it's pretty much unprovable in general terms) and so they are agnostic, it's the only logical position to take.
So a child lacks knowledge of god and doesn't have a belief in god, so they are an agnostic atheist.
I'd perhaps go further and say that to be ignorant of something requires that thing exists in the first place, then you're back to the problem of trying to prove god.
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Now we start to get in to gnostic and agnostic. Most theists are agnostic as are most atheists. To claim to be gnostic you must have knowledge of something. As very few people claim absolutely the existance (or not) of a god (as it's pretty much unprovable in general terms) and so they are agnostic, it's the only logical position to take.
So a child lacks knowledge of god and doesn't have a belief in god, so they are an agnostic atheist.
I'd perhaps go further and say that to be ignorant of something requires that thing exists in the first place, then you're back to the problem of trying to prove god.
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If you want to know if somebody considers christ to be their saviour, who is the best person to ask? The person in question?
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atheism doesn't require a justifcation of the position, it's the opposite of a belief in god(s). If you don't have a belief in god(s) you are an atheist, ignorant or not.
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Now we start to get in to gnostic and agnostic. Most theists are agnostic as are most atheists. To claim to be gnostic you must have knowledge of something. As very few people claim absolutely the existance (or not) of a god (as it's pretty much unprovable in general terms) and so they are agnostic, it's the only logical position to take.
So a child lacks knowledge of god and doesn't have a belief in god, so they are an agnostic atheist.
I'd perhaps go further and say that to be ignorant of something requires that thing exists in the first place, then you're back to the problem of trying to prove god.
Ignorance is a lack of knowledge. Now we start to get in to gnostic and agnostic. Most theists are agnostic as are most atheists. To claim to be gnostic you must have knowledge of something. As very few people claim absolutely the existance (or not) of a god (as it's pretty much unprovable in general terms) and so they are agnostic, it's the only logical position to take.
So a child lacks knowledge of god and doesn't have a belief in god, so they are an agnostic atheist.
I'd perhaps go further and say that to be ignorant of something requires that thing exists in the first place, then you're back to the problem of trying to prove god.
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My Mrs has received a bit of verbal abuse tonight from a girl she knows. It turns out that the girl is probably an illegal immigrant who's outstayed her visa. She's really mad and says that if it turns out that the girl is illegal she'll report her. I said not to, make sure you've got you facts right first and then think about it before acting rashly.
So, would you report someone if you were in a similar situation?
So, would you report someone if you were in a similar situation?
But reporting someone just because you have an unrelated issue with them would seem a bit hippocritical.
I think she should get her facts straight, as you've said, and then wait till she has cooled down before doing something she may later regret.
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