TEST DROVE THE MY08 STi JDM TODAY
30 January 2008, 12:49 PM
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You say that mate, but I'm not sure it is so much a step fowards as a step sideways to accomodate the preferences of different markets. I think a larger capacity coupled with a well designed non-twin scroll turbo is just as -if not more effective- for road use than a twin scroll set up on a smaller engine (providing you don't want a rev-o-matic screamer.) I think that's more what the JDM market likes, but I'd prefer the torque and the burble of the larger engine any day of the week.
Few people I know with big bhp have gone the equal length header and twin scroll route.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the twin scroll set up is not effective; it certainly improves the 2.0ltr boost threshold and lag, but I reckon for the UK market this is better acheived by upping the capacity of the engine.
Of course, the difference between the UK and JDm models probably has more to do with emission legislation than customer pref!
That said, I did speak to one source in Subaru customer relations who said there were no plans to go twin scroll with UK models and they know that we like the car's distinctive sound more than the japs, who prize efficency over character.
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Few people I know with big bhp have gone the equal length header and twin scroll route.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the twin scroll set up is not effective; it certainly improves the 2.0ltr boost threshold and lag, but I reckon for the UK market this is better acheived by upping the capacity of the engine.
Of course, the difference between the UK and JDm models probably has more to do with emission legislation than customer pref!
That said, I did speak to one source in Subaru customer relations who said there were no plans to go twin scroll with UK models and they know that we like the car's distinctive sound more than the japs, who prize efficency over character.
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30 January 2008, 01:29 PM
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I think only the Vectra has twin scroll btw.
I think, on the road, a bigger displacement is preferable.
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30 January 2008, 01:39 PM
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My boss is picking up his brand new Vectra VXR(280) tonight hope to get a blast in it tomorrow, bet that's a monster up and going!
30 January 2008, 01:46 PM
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I know what you mean re the displacement preference on road, but my 360/360 twin scroll has no problems pulling from more or less nothing in any gear, so I'm a bad example.
My boss is picking up his brand new Vectra VXR(280) tonight hope to get a blast in it tomorrow, bet that's a monster up and going!
My boss is picking up his brand new Vectra VXR(280) tonight hope to get a blast in it tomorrow, bet that's a monster up and going!
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30 January 2008, 04:12 PM
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In relation to your post though, I do agree as regards the twin scroll setup. Far more efficient in terms of building boost. Wasn't aware that the Megane and VXR used a twin scroll though. Learn something new everyday.
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I don't know what to say about the car. Its no classic, but was it meant to replace it, no. It looks too normal like a everyday car, just with boy racer add-ons. Very Focus ST look about it. No real pedigree that shouts out from the car, like the previous models did (some better that others though). Its just not what an Impreza should look like. I know, I know time for a change al all, but I just don't see customers that would usually buy a Audi A3, BMW 1 series, Ford Focus and the likes, change their mind and go for a Subaru. Most of those people would just turn there nose up as that car (the Impreza) is below them.
Maybe if SUBARU brought over the saloon Impreza and STi tune that, then maybe, but I don't think the people that would usually buy and impreza will but this new one. Sorry.
Maybe if SUBARU brought over the saloon Impreza and STi tune that, then maybe, but I don't think the people that would usually buy and impreza will but this new one. Sorry.
31 January 2008, 12:04 AM
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No, none of the above LOL BTW nor do I get a Bung from Litcho, sometimes a cuppa though
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Things will always change, that's life or everyone would be Driving around in a 2008 Model T ford, I willing to embrace change if it suits my life style
I could guess Subarus Rational behind the UK hatch but ........ Oh well flame suit on
1) To be competitive in the WRC etc New car had to be hatch shaped
2) They aren't going to b4lls up biggest market and biggest clout, the USA (about 50% of total sales) if no saloon and it would have crippled sales
3) "The rest of the world" where hatchbacks are a big market share of car sale, it makes sense to produce the 50% in Hatchbacks and sell them there.
4) up to 2000/01 UK had plenty of clout due to the high Percentage of total subaru sales, since then have pummited (bar from a upsurge in late 2004 to late 05 sales) but sales were catostrophic in last 18months
5) so if "UK poeple" airen't even buying enough Saloons, They may aswell try selling the hatch first and just aim it at a different target audeince, they cant do any worse
IMHO
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Things will always change, that's life
or everyone would be Driving around in a 2008 Model T ford, I willing to embrace change if it suits my life style I could guess Subarus Rational behind the UK hatch but ........ Oh well flame suit on
1) To be competitive in the WRC etc New car had to be hatch shaped
2) They aren't going to b4lls up biggest market and biggest clout, the USA (about 50% of total sales) if no saloon and it would have crippled sales
3) "The rest of the world" where hatchbacks are a big market share of car sale, it makes sense to produce the 50% in Hatchbacks and sell them there.
4) up to 2000/01 UK had plenty of clout due to the high Percentage of total subaru sales, since then have pummited (bar from a upsurge in late 2004 to late 05 sales) but sales were catostrophic in last 18months
5) so if "UK poeple" airen't even buying enough Saloons, They may aswell try selling the hatch first and just aim it at a different target audeince, they cant do any worse
IMHO
Tony
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02 February 2008, 11:35 AM
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I didn't like the handling on the WRX very soft/wallowy the tyres where Sh1te but would have loved to driven the STi,
Tony next time give me a bit more notice and I'll can get the day off
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Tony next time give me a bit more notice and I'll can get the day off
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02 February 2008, 12:04 PM
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Mazda RX-8 wheels anyone ? Sorry if S.I.A.L.....
exhaust trims - again a bit Haulfrauds for me.
Bet my dogs would prefer a hatch, but I can't afford one anyway ! LOL
They did save the best till last then !
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exhaust trims - again a bit Haulfrauds for me.
Bet my dogs would prefer a hatch, but I can't afford one anyway ! LOL
They did save the best till last then !
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02 February 2008, 10:35 PM
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R,
I only had the same notice myself, next time
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I wasn't that keen, I'd have prefered them Colour coded to match Car
IIRC Iain said the Trims are an optional extra and only fitted on to "Dress" the Car for the Autosports show
I did hear a rumour that a few UK Demo's may be out in the next 3 weeks or so
Tony
I only had the same notice myself, next time
I wasn't that keen, I'd have prefered them Colour coded to match Car
IIRC Iain said the Trims are an optional extra and only fitted on to "Dress" the Car for the Autosports show
I did hear a rumour that a few UK Demo's may be out in the next 3 weeks or so
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07 February 2008, 05:30 PM
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here is the EVO mag videeo of the New STi and the Gallardo Impreza STI v Gallardo | Planet evo | Videos | evo
Impreza STI v Gallardo | Planet evo | Videos | evo
07 February 2008, 07:24 PM
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I see that the MY08 STI accessories are now listed on the Subaru website.The BBS 18" wheels are £750 each and it looks like that does not include tyres 
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Official Accessories, Merchandise & Parts - Accessories | Subaru (UK) Ltd.
I also noticed on NASIOC there seems to be a big problem with stone chips on the rear doors,sills etc.
.Official Accessories, Merchandise & Parts - Accessories | Subaru (UK) Ltd.
I also noticed on NASIOC there seems to be a big problem with stone chips on the rear doors,sills etc.
07 February 2008, 07:41 PM
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I see that the MY08 STI accessories are now listed on the Subaru website.The BBS 18" wheels are £750 each and it looks like that does not include tyres .
Official Accessories, Merchandise & Parts - Accessories | Subaru (UK) Ltd.
I also noticed on NASIOC there seems to be a big problem with stone chips on the rear doors,sills etc.
.Official Accessories, Merchandise & Parts - Accessories | Subaru (UK) Ltd.
I also noticed on NASIOC there seems to be a big problem with stone chips on the rear doors,sills etc.
has that got paint protection film on the lower corner as well ?
07 February 2008, 07:51 PM
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Here is a whole thread from NASIOC about the stone chips its worth reading.Mudflaps and a roll of 3M clear film look to be a must.
2008 Impreza rock chips. Post your issues. - Warranty Issues & SOA Problems - NASIOC
2008 Impreza rock chips. Post your issues. - Warranty Issues & SOA Problems - NASIOC
12 February 2008, 12:00 AM
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Here is a whole thread from NASIOC about the stone chips its worth reading.Mudflaps and a roll of 3M clear film look to be a must.
2008 Impreza rock chips. Post your issues. - Warranty Issues & SOA Problems - NASIOC
2008 Impreza rock chips. Post your issues. - Warranty Issues & SOA Problems - NASIOC
Another reason for me not buy that plastic box of crap!!!
27 February 2008, 05:47 PM
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To cure the stone chip issue Subaru UK will probably fit armourfend to the offending area. I have seen it done before on other marques with the same problem.
28 February 2008, 10:36 AM
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it will need to be bigger If/when I buy one I will change side skirts and fit mudflaps then armourfend
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