Generic User

Hoi!!!

GenericUser

I had no idea this name was in use.

edit to add: I'd send you a PM to discuss it but you have them turned off.

Generic User

LOL, don't worry about it.

Carry on using if you want.

I have another username that I use. So its no problem.

WRX_Dazza

No where near the quality or workmanship of the watches above, but after reading this thread, it brought me back to the time i wanted one of these, for nothing other than novelty value.



and so the order was placed!!!!

ask me the time in the dark sometime......... anyone????

thesyn

Where does all this carp about rolex bands originate? I've worn a stainless steel dateadjust for the last 15 years alternating with a seadweller for the last 2 and definitely no bracelet failures.

GenericUser

It's a fact they feel flimsy and cheap compared to some other premium brands. The 'carp' comes from the fact I've had 2 failures although that was on the same watch. I have 5 Rolex watches at the moment, only the SD has had any problems although all feel cheap and nasty as previously mentioned.

Scoob99

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Tag Heuer F1 for me my darling wife bought me one at xmas I have always wanted one, and she made one of my dreams come true
Cheers
Colin

thesyn

Well I'm certainly not a watch collector or fetishist but I did go to watches of Switzerland and tried everything comparable and above. My take on "cheap and nasty" was "light and strong" IMHO.

GenericUser

That's a much more positive way to look at it. However when a 3 grand watch has cheaper construction than a 1.5K Omega you have to wonder if Rolex are taking the proverbial. I don't buy Rolex for the quality or the brand name 'prestige' I just think that some of them are classic pieces of design.

Brendan Hughes

It used to be that speedys weren't as waterproof as sports watches are expected to be, ie you're better to take them off when approaching real depths such as washing the car (this is an in-joke for those who know the guidance for what things like "100m waterproof" actually means).

Many think it's a gorgeous watch, but I'd just like to point out what I think is a limitation if you plan to wear it daily.

I haven't clicked on the link, they may have fixed that problem by now.

GC8

GenericUser: if you are who I presume you to be, then your opinion aabout watches interests me, but Im not going to get into an arguement about 'quality fakes'. You can buy quality pure cocaine too, but I'll show my **** in Binns window if you actually did. This applies to the 'top quality' ETA-equipped fake Rolex watches too.

Davey: I know which ones are fakes, as you posted the same nonsense on a thread about proper watches a couple of months ago.

GenericUser

Regarding the 'quality fakes' issue there is no argument, they do exist, I've seen them and handled them. Some are so good that even a watchsmith wouldn't be able to tell without removing the caseback. Doesn't make them as good as the real thing, neither does it make them desireable to me personally. I've got a Tag Chrono sat in my watchbox that is almost impossible to tell from the real one that's right next to it. If I was to be hyper critical of it I'd say it's possible to tell because the anti-reflective coating is better than the genuine piece. It was given to me by a friend in the far east who exports these for a living. He's also an avid collector of genuine watches which when you consider he has the pick of some of the finest fakes available tells you which ones are really worth having.

Regarding the cocaine issue get a different dealer, if you were here I could make a phone call and you'd be displaying your rear in a retail environment.

what would scooby do

People who buy fakes are either having a laugh or are just pikies

GenericUser

What about people who buy a fake to use as a 'daily beater' while keeping their genuine item for those times it won't get damaged? I don't think your description applies to either.
Some people can't bear to be seen wearing something they perceive as uncool for whatever reason. Personally I just wear a G-Shock.

[Davey]

The sort of fakes you have seen and know about are the low end of the spectrum, most of the high end fakes you'll never know about because you'll assume they are real and the owners will pass them off as real..

Not everyone who owns Fakes/Replicas is a pikey/cheapskate, they just admire watches for their style/design and dont mind buying an immitation and alot of people actually own replicas of their originals because the originals are locked away in a safe.. I know it sounds bizare but its true.

I'll tell you know the sort of replicas I own and many others own (and avidly collect) you'ed not be able to tell if you had it in one hand and a genuine in the other..

GC8

The best fake in the world is still a fake. You have no idea what 'end of the spectrum' he is referring to. It is real, or it is not: if its not then it is a fake and no amount of kidding me that it is an exquisite piece of watchmaking will alter that.

Ive only ever seen one fake that looked anything like the real thing and that used a genuine case, bracelet, dial and crystal with a ringed ETA movement (out of a Rolex Tudor). Little else comes close.

GenericUser

Interesting point about the 'Frankenwatch' Tudor. I bought a vintage Seamaster 300 from a respected and well known dealer in the UK. On taking it to my watchsmith it was pointed out that there wasn't an original part on it other than the crown and stem tube. It was a mish mash of 'fake' and genuine Omega parts. It was returned simply because it wasn't worth the best part of a grand. If the watch had cost 200 quid I'd probably have kept it.

Do you have a similar stance on say a GT40 replica or are you willing to admit there are some fine quality fakes out there that would fool all but the highly trained eye?

The reason I ask is that you seem to be ignoring my assurance that it's possible to purchase fakes that would most likely fool you, me and others at a cursory examination. Believe me when I tell you I am not making this up.

I wouldn't say any mass produced major brand watch is an 'exquisite piece of watchmaking' either. Certainly there are some fantastic designs but mostly they are mass produced with generic movements in them. A bit like the best fakes.

[Davey]

There are/were several Chinese watch makers who dedicated themselves to produceing PERFECT replicas.. All of the parts were identical to the originals and totally interchanageable to the point if you removed the crowns/bezels/bands and mixed them up with a genuine you'ed not know which was real. These were only produced in small numbers (as they were not run-out by factories likem most replicas) and they commanded a much higher price.. But it was a fraction of the original.

I think at the end of the day you are just being a tad bit of a snob; If you can have a Replica which is an EXACT replica then the only reason to buy the original is to make yourself feel better. To go round grouping them all as FAKES and worthless is very nieve..

Just look at the serious collectors of FAKES/REPLICAS many of the 'vintage' versions which very rare have started to be worth some serious money and are very sought after. Hence why I have a collection of very very fine replicas because one day they will be worth 10 times what I paid for them; much better appreciation than a budget GENUINE Rolex

Devildog

Simon, I agree with you wholehartedly that a fake is still a fake, no matter how good it is. If you are that good a watchmaker, why not just create your own brand?

If for whatever reason I decide to leave my SD off, I alternate between an old G shock and an old swatch (depending on the circumstances) Never seen the point of buying a fake for those days.

However, exceptionally good fakes do exist, and I suggest that on this occasion you accept that you are not the "font of all knowledge" and bow to others who clearly know more about the subject than you do

Spec'c'57

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Rolex Replica Submariner : Tag Heuer Replica : Knock Off Rolex : Imitation Rolex : Fake Rolex Watch : IreplicaStore.com
Nice and cheap here...

GenericUser

I'd suggest that's a source people might do well to avoid.

Brendan Hughes

I feel this is an appropriate contribution at this point:

[Davey]

OMG they are so bad

Mrs spec'c'57

TBH not even looked, one of our customers told me to have a look as they are meant to be good...

[Davey]

I'd be embarrased for anyone that buys that tat

Hoppy

How very dare you One of those would go very nicely with my wife's gold-plated 10 carat diamomante ring