Sharia Law in the UK is "inevitable"
10 February 2008, 09:20 PM
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This immoral treatment is not a symptom of religion but just backward, unthinking and frankly evil individuals. I am not a scholar but have lived long enough to learn that interpretation varies from one 'imam' to another. Infact I will go on record now to say in Islam currently there is more politics and less religion. I don't need some bloke with a beard to tell me what's right and wrong.
10 February 2008, 10:33 PM
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This immoral treatment is not a symptom of religion but just backward, unthinking and frankly evil individuals. I am not a scholar but have lived long enough to learn that interpretation varies from one 'imam' to another. Infact I will go on record now to say in Islam currently there is more politics and less religion. I don't need some bloke with a beard to tell me what's right and wrong.
It's not just Islam that has the issue with treating women as lesser beings. Islam is currently the sexy religion to target, and only the very bad comes out to the media.
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This is why i hate islamics, its with us or against us. and im against them!
The religion, in my opinion, is backwards in many respects, the forcing of young girls to marry, and if they dont want to they are disowned by the family and most of the time, KILLED! WTF!
The "if your not islamic, you must be beheaded" is possibly the worst for me, they cant make everyone think like them, espescially educated westerners who arent illiterate and can make up their own minds, not blindly follow a backwards religion cos they cant read or write or make an informed decision cos in islam, afaik, only clerics and other high ranking people are allowed to read and write?
Is this to keep the islamic population under lock and key?
And whats with the suicide bombing, any tw@t who believes that 40 virgins are waiting for them if they blow themselves up, imo, has been through some form of brainwashing, or is illiterate to the point they believe only in religion and nothing else, cos thats what they have been taught since birth
Does the guy in picture two know what a contradicting tool his sign makes him look, or was it written by a cleric, and given to him to wave around, and he has no idea whats written on it?
The religion, in my opinion, is backwards in many respects, the forcing of young girls to marry, and if they dont want to they are disowned by the family and most of the time, KILLED! WTF!
The "if your not islamic, you must be beheaded" is possibly the worst for me, they cant make everyone think like them, espescially educated westerners who arent illiterate and can make up their own minds, not blindly follow a backwards religion cos they cant read or write or make an informed decision cos in islam, afaik, only clerics and other high ranking people are allowed to read and write?
Is this to keep the islamic population under lock and key?
And whats with the suicide bombing, any tw@t who believes that 40 virgins are waiting for them if they blow themselves up, imo, has been through some form of brainwashing, or is illiterate to the point they believe only in religion and nothing else, cos thats what they have been taught since birth
Does the guy in picture two know what a contradicting tool his sign makes him look, or was it written by a cleric, and given to him to wave around, and he has no idea whats written on it?
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11 February 2008, 01:20 PM
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This is why i hate islamics, its with us or against us. and im against them!
The religion, in my opinion, is backwards in many respects, the forcing of young girls to marry, and if they dont want to they are disowned by the family and most of the time, KILLED! WTF!
The "if your not islamic, you must be beheaded" is possibly the worst for me, they cant make everyone think like them, espescially educated westerners who arent illiterate and can make up their own minds, not blindly follow a backwards religion cos they cant read or write or make an informed decision cos in islam, afaik, only clerics and other high ranking people are allowed to read and write?
Is this to keep the islamic population under lock and key?
And whats with the suicide bombing, any tw@t who believes that 40 virgins are waiting for them if they blow themselves up, imo, has been through some form of brainwashing, or is illiterate to the point they believe only in religion and nothing else, cos thats what they have been taught since birth
Does the guy in picture two know what a contradicting tool his sign makes him look, or was it written by a cleric, and given to him to wave around, and he has no idea whats written on it?
The religion, in my opinion, is backwards in many respects, the forcing of young girls to marry, and if they dont want to they are disowned by the family and most of the time, KILLED! WTF!
The "if your not islamic, you must be beheaded" is possibly the worst for me, they cant make everyone think like them, espescially educated westerners who arent illiterate and can make up their own minds, not blindly follow a backwards religion cos they cant read or write or make an informed decision cos in islam, afaik, only clerics and other high ranking people are allowed to read and write?
Is this to keep the islamic population under lock and key?
And whats with the suicide bombing, any tw@t who believes that 40 virgins are waiting for them if they blow themselves up, imo, has been through some form of brainwashing, or is illiterate to the point they believe only in religion and nothing else, cos thats what they have been taught since birth
Does the guy in picture two know what a contradicting tool his sign makes him look, or was it written by a cleric, and given to him to wave around, and he has no idea whats written on it?
11 February 2008, 07:00 PM
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This is why i hate islamics, its with us or against us. and im against them!
The religion, in my opinion, is backwards in many respects, the forcing of young girls to marry, and if they dont want to they are disowned by the family and most of the time, KILLED! WTF!
The "if your not islamic, you must be beheaded" is possibly the worst for me, they cant make everyone think like them, espescially educated westerners who arent illiterate and can make up their own minds, not blindly follow a backwards religion cos they cant read or write or make an informed decision cos in islam, afaik, only clerics and other high ranking people are allowed to read and write?
Is this to keep the islamic population under lock and key?
And whats with the suicide bombing, any tw@t who believes that 40 virgins are waiting for them if they blow themselves up, imo, has been through some form of brainwashing, or is illiterate to the point they believe only in religion and nothing else, cos thats what they have been taught since birth
Does the guy in picture two know what a contradicting tool his sign makes him look, or was it written by a cleric, and given to him to wave around, and he has no idea whats written on it?
The religion, in my opinion, is backwards in many respects, the forcing of young girls to marry, and if they dont want to they are disowned by the family and most of the time, KILLED! WTF!
The "if your not islamic, you must be beheaded" is possibly the worst for me, they cant make everyone think like them, espescially educated westerners who arent illiterate and can make up their own minds, not blindly follow a backwards religion cos they cant read or write or make an informed decision cos in islam, afaik, only clerics and other high ranking people are allowed to read and write?
Is this to keep the islamic population under lock and key?
And whats with the suicide bombing, any tw@t who believes that 40 virgins are waiting for them if they blow themselves up, imo, has been through some form of brainwashing, or is illiterate to the point they believe only in religion and nothing else, cos thats what they have been taught since birth
Does the guy in picture two know what a contradicting tool his sign makes him look, or was it written by a cleric, and given to him to wave around, and he has no idea whats written on it?
Just out of interest how many 'islamics' do you actually know?
11 February 2008, 07:30 PM
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This is why i hate islamics, its with us or against us. and im against them!
The religion, in my opinion, is backwards in many respects, the forcing of young girls to marry, and if they dont want to they are disowned by the family and most of the time, KILLED! WTF!
The "if your not islamic, you must be beheaded" is possibly the worst for me, they cant make everyone think like them, espescially educated westerners who arent illiterate and can make up their own minds, not blindly follow a backwards religion cos they cant read or write or make an informed decision cos in islam, afaik, only clerics and other high ranking people are allowed to read and write?
Is this to keep the islamic population under lock and key?
And whats with the suicide bombing, any tw@t who believes that 40 virgins are waiting for them if they blow themselves up, imo, has been through some form of brainwashing, or is illiterate to the point they believe only in religion and nothing else, cos thats what they have been taught since birth
Does the guy in picture two know what a contradicting tool his sign makes him look, or was it written by a cleric, and given to him to wave around, and he has no idea whats written on it?
The religion, in my opinion, is backwards in many respects, the forcing of young girls to marry, and if they dont want to they are disowned by the family and most of the time, KILLED! WTF!
The "if your not islamic, you must be beheaded" is possibly the worst for me, they cant make everyone think like them, espescially educated westerners who arent illiterate and can make up their own minds, not blindly follow a backwards religion cos they cant read or write or make an informed decision cos in islam, afaik, only clerics and other high ranking people are allowed to read and write?
Is this to keep the islamic population under lock and key?
And whats with the suicide bombing, any tw@t who believes that 40 virgins are waiting for them if they blow themselves up, imo, has been through some form of brainwashing, or is illiterate to the point they believe only in religion and nothing else, cos thats what they have been taught since birth
Does the guy in picture two know what a contradicting tool his sign makes him look, or was it written by a cleric, and given to him to wave around, and he has no idea whats written on it?
Having lived in a muslim contry for nearly a year i found the laws easy to get on with. Not sharia law but law laid down by the ruler and enforced by police.
Only let down was regarding women and often them needing to prove that they where victims rahter than inciting however the ruler was actively trying to change that.
What i saw was laws enforced by police that you had respect for, why because if you messed with them then they had the power to lock you up and get you deported in a flash, after a trial but no backlogs, offencd on a monday and be gone in a week, no appeals, no messing.
Police who would warn you first and then if you continued to mess them about would arrest you and you could get a slap or two in you got insulting or tried violence - guess what not too much backchat or resisting arrest.
Not zero tollerance but not too far off. Tough sentences and harsh prison conditions. Not even sky telly in the cells!
funnily enough not too much crime to worry about and that with a huge immigrant population of often poorly paid and often uneducated immirant workforce who knew that if they broke the law then they lost their job and thier entitlement to work and got sent home which would have a big impact on thoier families back home. No benifit system (well, a great one for the indigenous population) to fall back on kinda focusses the mind body and soul!
I am not saying that the Muslim way or sharia law is the full and final answer but we could certrianly do with learning a few lessons from those doing things a lot better than we currently are. Do not confuse being backward with strong beliefs, values, family values. Nothing wrong with that.
I am not too sure how you can hate a whole race/religion based on some extreemist scum mind. It just reinforces the extreemists and gives them strength and is a call to arms for a recruiting drive. Punish the extreemists and those who choose to help them harshly!
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11 February 2008, 07:33 PM
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I am agnostic BTW.
Having lived in a muslim contry for nearly a year i found the laws easy to get on with. Not sharia law but law laid down by the ruler and enforced by police.
Only let down was regarding women and often them needing to prove that they where victims rahter than inciting however the ruler was actively trying to change that.
What i saw was laws enforced by police that you had respect for, why because if you messed with them then they had the power to lock you up and get you deported in a flash, after a trial but no backlogs, offencd on a monday and be gone in a week, no appeals, no messing.
Police who would warn you first and then if you continued to mess them about would arrest you and you could get a slap or two in you got insulting or tried violence - guess what not too much backchat or resisting arrest.
Not zero tollerance but not too far off. Tough sentences and harsh prison conditions. Not even sky telly in the cells!
funnily enough not too much crime to worry about and that with a huge immigrant population of often poorly paid and often uneducated immirant workforce who knew that if they broke the law then they lost their job and thier entitlement to work and got sent home which would have a big impact on thoier families back home. No benifits system to fall back on kinda focusses the mind body and soul!
I am not saying that the Muslim way or sharia law is the full and final answer but we could certrianly do with learning a few lessons from those doing things a lot better than we currently are.
I am not too sure how you can hate a whole race/religion based on some extreemist scum mind it just reinforces the extreemists and gives them strength and is a call to arms for a recruiting drive. Punish the extreemists and those who choose to help them harshly!
Having lived in a muslim contry for nearly a year i found the laws easy to get on with. Not sharia law but law laid down by the ruler and enforced by police.
Only let down was regarding women and often them needing to prove that they where victims rahter than inciting however the ruler was actively trying to change that.
What i saw was laws enforced by police that you had respect for, why because if you messed with them then they had the power to lock you up and get you deported in a flash, after a trial but no backlogs, offencd on a monday and be gone in a week, no appeals, no messing.
Police who would warn you first and then if you continued to mess them about would arrest you and you could get a slap or two in you got insulting or tried violence - guess what not too much backchat or resisting arrest.
Not zero tollerance but not too far off. Tough sentences and harsh prison conditions. Not even sky telly in the cells!
funnily enough not too much crime to worry about and that with a huge immigrant population of often poorly paid and often uneducated immirant workforce who knew that if they broke the law then they lost their job and thier entitlement to work and got sent home which would have a big impact on thoier families back home. No benifits system to fall back on kinda focusses the mind body and soul!
I am not saying that the Muslim way or sharia law is the full and final answer but we could certrianly do with learning a few lessons from those doing things a lot better than we currently are.
I am not too sure how you can hate a whole race/religion based on some extreemist scum mind it just reinforces the extreemists and gives them strength and is a call to arms for a recruiting drive. Punish the extreemists and those who choose to help them harshly!
11 February 2008, 10:04 PM
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Einstein...You are right the majority of Muslims are not really practising in this country but they would still have a Nikah (Islamic Marriage) and probably refer to someone slightly religious in marriage disputes.
Regards the forced marriage of men and women to people who they do not want to marry regardless if carried out here or in the Pakistan, Bangladesh or India...this happens in ISLAM amongst the SIKHS and HINDUS then it must be stopped 'yesterday' and the nasty people involved (parents, brothers, sisters and uncles etc.) should be banged up and humiliated.
The sadest thing is that one of the 'CONDITIONS' of marriage (Without which it is not correct) is the CONSENT of the woman!!!
Regards he statement: "You'd be suprised at how some muslim families treat their young girls..." Well some people are just evil but equally you should see how much honour, protection, love and care some young girls get from their Muslim families.
Regards the forced marriage of men and women to people who they do not want to marry regardless if carried out here or in the Pakistan, Bangladesh or India...this happens in ISLAM amongst the SIKHS and HINDUS then it must be stopped 'yesterday' and the nasty people involved (parents, brothers, sisters and uncles etc.) should be banged up and humiliated.
The sadest thing is that one of the 'CONDITIONS' of marriage (Without which it is not correct) is the CONSENT of the woman!!!
Regards he statement: "You'd be suprised at how some muslim families treat their young girls..." Well some people are just evil but equally you should see how much honour, protection, love and care some young girls get from their Muslim families.
11 February 2008, 10:12 PM
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Einstein...You are right the majority of Muslims are not really practising in this country but they would still have a Nikah (Islamic Marriage) and probably refer to someone slightly religious in marriage disputes.
Regards the forced marriage of men and women to people who they do not want to marry regardless if carried out here or in the Pakistan, Bangladesh or India...this happens in ISLAM amongst the SIKHS and HINDUS then it must be stopped 'yesterday' and the nasty people involved (parents, brothers, sisters and uncles etc.) should be banged up and humiliated.
The sadest thing is that one of the 'CONDITIONS' of marriage (Without which it is not correct) is the CONSENT of the woman!!!
Regards he statement: "You'd be suprised at how some muslim families treat their young girls..." Well some people are just evil but equally you should see how much honour, protection, love and care some young girls get from their Muslim families.
Regards the forced marriage of men and women to people who they do not want to marry regardless if carried out here or in the Pakistan, Bangladesh or India...this happens in ISLAM amongst the SIKHS and HINDUS then it must be stopped 'yesterday' and the nasty people involved (parents, brothers, sisters and uncles etc.) should be banged up and humiliated.
The sadest thing is that one of the 'CONDITIONS' of marriage (Without which it is not correct) is the CONSENT of the woman!!!
Regards he statement: "You'd be suprised at how some muslim families treat their young girls..." Well some people are just evil but equally you should see how much honour, protection, love and care some young girls get from their Muslim families.
Valid point Aaquil. Individual consensus is paramount during the marriage ceremony, in church you are aked only once if 'you do'. In an Islamic ceremony the individuals are asked several times if 'they do'. Forced marriages are not valid neither morally nor religiously.
11 February 2008, 10:17 PM
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Just to go back to highlight what we're talking about:
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Saudis clamp down on valentines
While I find Valentines Day a bit tiresome; I'd hardly consider the Saudi approach to it as rational or reasonable.
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Saudis clamp down on valentines
While I find Valentines Day a bit tiresome; I'd hardly consider the Saudi approach to it as rational or reasonable.
11 February 2008, 10:56 PM
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I just think the 'Arch' was attempting ironically to 'up' his religion (and himself) in the wide range of religions available today ,in a sort of pc way thats popular today.
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i really think people have the wrong understanding of the Sharia law. i would advice those who have spoke about chopping hands of etc to go and do a critical research about the law, get der facts right and then start discussing wheather it should be enforced or not. the sharia law in the middle east for example saudi, is a bad example of representing the law. the actual sharia laws meaning can be found in the Qu'ran, which is how each country that implements the law should follow it as written in the Qu'ran. a english version of the Holy book can be purchased from many places. you cant force any country into a law like that or even offer it to a Kaffiir country knowing that they wont be able to commit to it. its a sin!
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Saudi Arabia is not the criterion for Islam even though it establishes a lot of Islam. To people who have not come across Islam or not been brought up in a muslim country maybe a lot of laws would seem strange or unreasonable. However, the same could be said for a Muslim in say Yemen looking at some of the laws/rules/cultural norms established in the UK. Different countries different cultural norms, different religions different cultural norms.
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I am agnostic BTW.
Having lived in a muslim contry for nearly a year i found the laws easy to get on with. Not sharia law but law laid down by the ruler and enforced by police.
Only let down was regarding women and often them needing to prove that they where victims rahter than inciting however the ruler was actively trying to change that.
What i saw was laws enforced by police that you had respect for, why because if you messed with them then they had the power to lock you up and get you deported in a flash, after a trial but no backlogs, offencd on a monday and be gone in a week, no appeals, no messing.
Police who would warn you first and then if you continued to mess them about would arrest you and you could get a slap or two in you got insulting or tried violence - guess what not too much backchat or resisting arrest.
Not zero tollerance but not too far off. Tough sentences and harsh prison conditions. Not even sky telly in the cells!
funnily enough not too much crime to worry about and that with a huge immigrant population of often poorly paid and often uneducated immirant workforce who knew that if they broke the law then they lost their job and thier entitlement to work and got sent home which would have a big impact on thoier families back home. No benifit system (well, a great one for the indigenous population) to fall back on kinda focusses the mind body and soul!
I am not saying that the Muslim way or sharia law is the full and final answer but we could certrianly do with learning a few lessons from those doing things a lot better than we currently are. Do not confuse being backward with strong beliefs, values, family values. Nothing wrong with that.
I am not too sure how you can hate a whole race/religion based on some extreemist scum mind. It just reinforces the extreemists and gives them strength and is a call to arms for a recruiting drive. Punish the extreemists and those who choose to help them harshly!
Having lived in a muslim contry for nearly a year i found the laws easy to get on with. Not sharia law but law laid down by the ruler and enforced by police.
Only let down was regarding women and often them needing to prove that they where victims rahter than inciting however the ruler was actively trying to change that.
What i saw was laws enforced by police that you had respect for, why because if you messed with them then they had the power to lock you up and get you deported in a flash, after a trial but no backlogs, offencd on a monday and be gone in a week, no appeals, no messing.
Police who would warn you first and then if you continued to mess them about would arrest you and you could get a slap or two in you got insulting or tried violence - guess what not too much backchat or resisting arrest.
Not zero tollerance but not too far off. Tough sentences and harsh prison conditions. Not even sky telly in the cells!
funnily enough not too much crime to worry about and that with a huge immigrant population of often poorly paid and often uneducated immirant workforce who knew that if they broke the law then they lost their job and thier entitlement to work and got sent home which would have a big impact on thoier families back home. No benifit system (well, a great one for the indigenous population) to fall back on kinda focusses the mind body and soul!
I am not saying that the Muslim way or sharia law is the full and final answer but we could certrianly do with learning a few lessons from those doing things a lot better than we currently are. Do not confuse being backward with strong beliefs, values, family values. Nothing wrong with that.
I am not too sure how you can hate a whole race/religion based on some extreemist scum mind. It just reinforces the extreemists and gives them strength and is a call to arms for a recruiting drive. Punish the extreemists and those who choose to help them harshly!
God bless u paul the best post on scoobynet for a long time well said and im so glad u feel the same pain as i dae for the poor immigrant workers in those so called muslim countries if their woz pure sharia those evil employers and slave traders would be the first ones tae be flogged and punished
in islam u pay the wage tae the worker before his sweat runs dry as the prophet said on whom be peace.
in islam charity is a must one of the 5th pillars of islam and where God even challenges those so called righteous folk who call themselves muslims tae bring their workers or servants tae their equal standards.
where the prophets early disciplies were black slaves enslaved by the pagan arabs and the sons of those pagan arabs still practising slavery when the prophet had abolished it.
GC8WRX doesnt have a clue at all quoting lies and fabrications
plz quote me a verse fae the quran where God says kill yer daughters and force them tae marry someone they dont wanna
, also their aint a verse in the whole of the quran aboot 72 virgins and killing innocents etctheir is not a single world in the quran that means the holy war thats a christian quote
that idiot muslims have made their owntheir is jihad a struggle a struggle within , every day of life against yer own self, injustice, looking after the family and doing better deeds, that is jihad ,s aving someones life and not being selfish that is jihad
paul i wanna thank u mate, an awesome write up mate im humbled, peace bros
wont be long before suresh is here and stirring garbage up against me
islam is the first religion where it stopped forced marriages and if a person still does it and forces his kids tae marry someone he aint a practising muslim and also not just muslims but arab christians, non muslim kurds and turks and also sikhs and hindus and asians force their kids tae marry its culture not religion
in islam a parent cannot even go intae their childrens room withoot the kids permission unless they believe their kids r doing something wrong and hidding stuff like drugs or drink or stuff in their rooms.
in islam saving a life is like saving humanity
and also here is a quote i found
"Title:
Can a Girl be Forced into Marriage?
Question:
I'm a Muslim sister and I'm almost 20 years old. I was pressured by my parents to get married to someone I don't like and I don't accept that person to be my husband. I told my parents that I'm against the marriage and I told the "husband" that too. However, no one listened to me and I was pressured to sign the papers of marriage and I had no choice but to do so. However, I was expecting the 2 witnesses to come up to me and ask me if I accept that person to be my husband so that I'll tell them that I don't... but no one even bothered to come to me and asking me if I want to be married to that person! I don't know what to do. The person I'm married to is going to be coming to this country soon may Allah forbid. I tried to convince my parents that I don't want him to be my husband but all what they cared for is the respect of the family and that they can't say no! I can't imagine myself living with that person in the same house rather than having him even touching me! According to Islam, or so I was taught, no one has the right to force me to get married and it's essential for me to accept the groom in order for the marriage contract to be valid! However, I was forced into this and my parents kept pressuring me and making me feel guilty that I'll shame them and I'll shame the family until I ended up signing the paper. But everyone knows that I don't accept that person to be my husband and he knows that too but he didn't care. I need your help and advice. What can I do and is there any thing that I can do to get away from this problem I was put on? Does Islam give me the right to pick my husband or am I to be given away as my parents decide?
My family are now telling me that even my prayer isn't going to be accepted because my "husband" is not pleased with me hence whenever he calls, I refuse to talk to him. Is that true? Am I to be treated unjustly in Dunya for being forced to live with someone 'insha'Allah I won't live with him' I hate and then be doomed in my Akhira because my prayers are not accepted because of that same person?
Samina Sheikh
Answer:
No one, not even the parents, have a right to force marriage upon any boy or a girl. Without the free consent of the woman (as well as the man), a marriage contract would be deemed void. Forcing marriage upon a woman is clearly against the teachings of the Prophet (pbuh).
According to a narrative reported by Abu Dawood, once when a case of forced marriage was reported to the Prophet (pbuh), he allowed the woman (who was forced into marriage) the option to revoke the marriage, if she desired to do so (Abu Dawood, Kitaab al-Nikah, Narrative No. 1797).
The free choice of the woman is a necessary condition for a valid Nikah. In view of this fact, if it is found out that a woman has been coerced into a Nikah, then such a Nikah can be revoked or even invalidated by the competent legal authority.
Nevertheless, considering the fact that you have signed the Nikah contract, you will now have to seek legal help to invalidate the Nikah, if your parents do not accept your basic moral and legal right.
Because you have been forced into marriage, therefore, your apparent husband does not have any moral or legal rights over you, till the time that you give him such rights, with the willingness of your heart. Under the stated circumstances, I do not consider it sinful on your part to refuse talking to him or to seek legal help in revoking the said marriage contract.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Moiz Amjad
November 27, 2001"
and also i luv that guy rowan williams , God grant him peace and islam ameen
he woz misquoted and he meant some parts that go along wae british law coz muslims r already using some parts of sharia anyways.
and in islam u dont behead non muslims if that woz the case muslims wouldnt have been the most tolerant in history wae the minorities they had their own wars in between islam abolished tribalism and racial differences but muslims being humans started wars against fellow muslims for power, tribalism or nationalism like the rest of mankind have done, u cant blame islam for that
bush said he went and butchered iraqis and stole their all and messed up their country coz God told him so , he uses God for his own evil reasons
cheers
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he knows none bros
also i believe some sharia law will be very good for britain
just check these crimes oot
innocent man killed
BBC NEWS | England | Newlove killers jailed for life
brave firemen and lifesavers at risk
BBC NEWS | UK | Tackling violence against firefighters
if pure sharia woz implemented in even muslim lands justly , all the filth and evil would be wiped oot mostly ameen and unjust dictators, rapists, corruption and evil as a whole
also i believe some sharia law will be very good for britain
just check these crimes oot
innocent man killed
BBC NEWS | England | Newlove killers jailed for life
brave firemen and lifesavers at risk
BBC NEWS | UK | Tackling violence against firefighters
if pure sharia woz implemented in even muslim lands justly , all the filth and evil would be wiped oot mostly ameen and unjust dictators, rapists, corruption and evil as a whole
12 February 2008, 02:19 AM
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Just to go back to highlight what we're talking about:
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Saudis clamp down on valentines
While I find Valentines Day a bit tiresome; I'd hardly consider the Saudi approach to it as rational or reasonable.
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Saudis clamp down on valentines
While I find Valentines Day a bit tiresome; I'd hardly consider the Saudi approach to it as rational or reasonable.
sharia aint saudi dude, saudi is a corrupt b@stard of a regime
at least they dont sell the daughters of their country on the meat market, thats a blessing but they go tae dubai and **** others daughters oot of wedlock for that they should be slaughtered
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19. O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may Take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good.
also women r free tae divorce and the original women tae have their inheritance and the men couldnt touch the inheritance of the women unless they women wanted tae but the women were entitled tae their parents property and also their husbands only women in history since the spartan women
they even had the right tae divorce their husbands as well
sharia is great if implemented justly
its really a deterrent and not tae misuse, God told us tae be kind and deal justly and learn fae the mistakes the jews made by becoming extremists and implementing harsh law, the prophet taught us tae deal kindly and justly evedn wae neighbours and how could we sleep wae a full tummy when oor neighbours r hungry
that is pure islam and glory be tae God the west is becoming muslim wae Gods will coz the middle eastern and asian muslims have kinda abandoned the true religion of God, God is replacing them wae better people fae the west who arent became corrupt like them ameen
also women r free tae divorce and the original women tae have their inheritance and the men couldnt touch the inheritance of the women unless they women wanted tae but the women were entitled tae their parents property and also their husbands only women in history since the spartan women
they even had the right tae divorce their husbands as well
sharia is great if implemented justly
its really a deterrent and not tae misuse, God told us tae be kind and deal justly and learn fae the mistakes the jews made by becoming extremists and implementing harsh law, the prophet taught us tae deal kindly and justly evedn wae neighbours and how could we sleep wae a full tummy when oor neighbours r hungry
that is pure islam and glory be tae God the west is becoming muslim wae Gods will coz the middle eastern and asian muslims have kinda abandoned the true religion of God, God is replacing them wae better people fae the west who arent became corrupt like them ameen
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here lads one of the best ever muslim true stories and so funny an australian brother
paul u would like it mate
YouTube - How Ruben (Abu Bakr) Became A Muslim - Part 1
YouTube - How Ruben (Abu Bakr) Became A Muslim - Part 2
paul u would like it mate
YouTube - How Ruben (Abu Bakr) Became A Muslim - Part 1
YouTube - How Ruben (Abu Bakr) Became A Muslim - Part 2
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