OMG baby let down by everyone
14 February 2008, 08:30 PM
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14 February 2008, 08:30 PM
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Why would it turn our criminal system into a freak show? we're not going to televise it.... guy gets caught... gets proved... lethal injection... gone...
14 February 2008, 08:32 PM
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Scum like that dont deserve their place in society, equally they dont deserve to be 'kept' by the tax payer. They have waived all their rights by taking another life so in my opinion the tax payers money would be better spent eliminating them.
As for deterrent, it may not make all pshyco's think twice but even if it where 1 in a 100 then thats got to be a good thing.
Personnally i find it difficult to understand how anyone can defend the life of an abusing murderer, especially when children are involved.
Nik.
As for deterrent, it may not make all pshyco's think twice but even if it where 1 in a 100 then thats got to be a good thing.
Personnally i find it difficult to understand how anyone can defend the life of an abusing murderer, especially when children are involved.
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14 February 2008, 08:33 PM
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Let's not devalue ourselves by sinking to this level, lock him up and throw away the key.
14 February 2008, 08:35 PM
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Mcartney... Diana.... high profile...
this is some piece of s**t that abused his daughter it goes on all the time... if there was a better deterrent than bed and breakfast at her majestys leisure with no community charge to pay and meals cooked for them then maybe just maybe it would make some of them think twice
this is some piece of s**t that abused his daughter it goes on all the time... if there was a better deterrent than bed and breakfast at her majestys leisure with no community charge to pay and meals cooked for them then maybe just maybe it would make some of them think twice
14 February 2008, 08:35 PM
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Scum like that dont deserve their place in society, equally they dont deserve to be 'kept' by the tax payer. They have waived all their rights by taking another life so in my opinion the tax payers money would be better spent eliminating them.
As for deterrent, it may not make all pshyco's think twice but even if it where 1 in a 100 then thats got to be a good thing.
Personnally i find it difficult to understand how anyone can defend the life of an abusing murderer, especially when children are involved.
Nik.
As for deterrent, it may not make all pshyco's think twice but even if it where 1 in a 100 then thats got to be a good thing.
Personnally i find it difficult to understand how anyone can defend the life of an abusing murderer, especially when children are involved.
Nik.
If killing is wrong then it's wrong, I'm sorry you have a problem with that, but it's what I believe
14 February 2008, 08:37 PM
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Mcartney... Diana.... high profile...
this is some piece of s**t that abused his daughter it goes on all the time... if there was a better deterrent than bed and breakfast at her majestys leisure with no community charge to pay and meals cooked for them then maybe just maybe it would make some of them think twice
this is some piece of s**t that abused his daughter it goes on all the time... if there was a better deterrent than bed and breakfast at her majestys leisure with no community charge to pay and meals cooked for them then maybe just maybe it would make some of them think twice
14 February 2008, 08:38 PM
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I very much doubt that..... he will be protected.. It would be against his human rights to put him in any danger (and no Im not getting at you - the system in general)
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Which therefore includes child killers does it not.
That being the case i take my hat off to you as if anyone harmed my kids in that way i know what i would do and it wouldn't involve them staying at a HRH Hotel for 15 years.
That being the case i take my hat off to you as if anyone harmed my kids in that way i know what i would do and it wouldn't involve them staying at a HRH Hotel for 15 years.
14 February 2008, 08:41 PM
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I agree... it would be one less for the crime figures if if was my child
14 February 2008, 08:43 PM
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14 February 2008, 08:48 PM
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I'm no happy clapper matey, you don't have to be a religious nut to have morals
Can't someone hold a valid point of view without being labelled 'Religious' or 'Liberal'
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14 February 2008, 08:48 PM
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Everyday innocent people(like that little girl) are killed,what i mean is if people admit to these crime's,they should face the death penalty.(in my opinion)
14 February 2008, 08:55 PM
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Well that's your valid opinion, mine is different, ultimately though neither of our stand points would have saved this poor child from an appalling end.
14 February 2008, 08:56 PM
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I'm not in favour of the death penalty as said before. It is not enough of a deterant - someone like this bloke would do it no matter what the consequences.
I'm not a bible basher either and I am entitled to my opinion too.
I'm not a bible basher either and I am entitled to my opinion too.
14 February 2008, 08:59 PM
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True.But no offence to you,Its because of do-gooders that this country is in a state like it is,we need to bring in some sort of deterent/capital punishment.So if it means hanging some evil people then so be it(all in my opinion)
14 February 2008, 08:59 PM
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14 February 2008, 08:59 PM
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I would genuinely feel very differently about this issue if I thought it would stop these crimes, but the evidence just doesn't support it.
In other words if we could stop these monsters preying on children by having the death penalty, then sign me up.
We'd then need to have a debate about, which other categories of murder would warrant the death penalty
In other words if we could stop these monsters preying on children by having the death penalty, then sign me up.
We'd then need to have a debate about, which other categories of murder would warrant the death penalty
14 February 2008, 09:01 PM
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Martin ... and Im not getting at you... I fully accept your opinion and your view... its what makes us all different...
Have you got any kids? If this was your child would you feel the same?
Have you got any kids? If this was your child would you feel the same?
14 February 2008, 09:02 PM
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14 February 2008, 09:04 PM
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Its a very raw subject to be discussing with people you hardly know
14 February 2008, 09:06 PM
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14 February 2008, 09:08 PM
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Not going to argue with you on that one 
Poster didnt stay around long enough to join in the conversation... maybe just read a couple of posts instead of following it from the beginnning ... thats where a lot of threads on NSR go t1ts up 
Poster didnt stay around long enough to join in the conversation... maybe just read a couple of posts instead of following it from the beginnning ... thats where a lot of threads on NSR go t1ts up
14 February 2008, 09:11 PM
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I agree. I don't disagree that if people like this weren't around, the world would be a better place. However, he was. What are we going to do to stop people like him doing what he's done?
14 February 2008, 09:12 PM
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No idea.... but can only think if the deterrent was more severe then maybe people would think twice... and also they wouldnt be out again to do anything like this again .... What is to stop him when he has been released starting another family and doing this again ?
14 February 2008, 09:14 PM
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BTW I know you are not having a go at me, this case is so appalling it's bound to bring out strong views. My feelings of hate and disgust towards the 'man' that did this are no different to yours or any other person.
The only thing we differ on is what should we as a society do with such people