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Old 18 February 2008, 02:47 AM
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No offence meant but - lol.
Dont you hate it when you are in the overtaking lane, actually overtaking and some **** comes steaming up behind you flashing his lights? I get really bad road rage (which is very dangerous on the motorway) but drive "enthusiastic" most of the time too...

Oh BTW, not comparing it to your situation J4CKO
Old 18 February 2008, 06:36 AM
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I undertake as close as I can and as fast as I can in the hope it will freak them out and they'll crash. That'll teach em.
Old 18 February 2008, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cw42
Here's an educational film I made about driving on a 3 lane motorway earlier:
YouTube - m60 manchester ring road

I didn't go any faster than 80 leptons at any point in that film. It's speeded up, obviously
Plastic Dreams Any chance you could email me that MP3 please? I've only got a rubbish mix here

Nice video, how fast was that bike going?
Old 18 February 2008, 09:02 AM
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Back from Aviemore and all I can say is A1 full of ******* get to scotch corner and the drivers are courteous and im full of praise for them. The roads are fantastic and the scenery stunning. Only downside was I had to come back to sheffield so was stressed by time I got home
Old 18 February 2008, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by scousefly
Back from Aviemore and all I can say is A1 full of ******* get to scotch corner and the drivers are courteous and im full of praise for them.
Only funny thing about Scotchland is queueing. A few times I've seen people, usually in lorries, blocking lane 2 of a dual carriageway so that everyone has to get into a single file lane. Weird.
Old 18 February 2008, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wrx-kris
No offence meant but - lol.
Dont you hate it when you are in the overtaking lane, actually overtaking and some **** comes steaming up behind you flashing his lights? I get really bad road rage (which is very dangerous on the motorway) but drive "enthusiastic" most of the time too...

Oh BTW, not comparing it to your situation J4CKO
Kris, it is quite like my situation, it was a slightly aggressive and impatient maneuver but I gave him two miles and one polite short flash which to me means "I have been here a while, if you would care to move over that would be most appreciated, kthxbai", he knew I was there, but still chose to occupy the overtaking lane, I move if there is a faster vehicle bearing down, you know 911, M5, Gallardo, Transit connect etc, why risk causing aggro, just defer and get out of the way !

Wheras it is interpreted as "Get out of the f*cking way, Alpha male tosser coming through" and considered an affront to manhood

Anyway, off to Atlanta in a minute so its good practice
Old 18 February 2008, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by borat52
I really wish that someone would make a serious effort to push this point with the lawmakers of the land. When the motorway is clear, exceeding 70 is not dangerous. In fact I'd go as far as to say that doing 70 on a clear road in 1967 was far more dangerous than doing 100 in a car on a clear road today. Why? Cars today are far better built to handle and brake at high speeds.
But realistically are the drivers any better, in a lot of cases I would say no

So cars maybe better, safer, better brakes etc but driving standards have declined

A blow out can happen at any speed in any car, the only difference with modern cars is that you are more likely to survive due to the safety features of the car
Old 18 February 2008, 11:28 AM
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If the motorway speed limit was raised to something like 85 then I think there would be less bunching and it would not be any more dangerous.

Sittng in the overtaking lane is always wrong even if only for the fact that you probably dont know the accuracy of your own speedometer.

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Old 18 February 2008, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonic'
But realistically are the drivers any better, in a lot of cases I would say no

So cars maybe better, safer, better brakes etc but driving standards have declined

A blow out can happen at any speed in any car, the only difference with modern cars is that you are more likely to survive due to the safety features of the car
Your correct, driving standards have declined and also the roads have remained largely the same (despite the huge increase in usage).

But at midnight on a quiet motorway coming home from the airport, I think driving at 100 in decent car is very safe. I'd argue for variable speed limits at different times of the day. Bombing along at 100 on a busy motorway with the lane inside you doing 70 is not safe, doing 100 when your only passing a car every other mile is not a problem imho.

Even on quieter motorways in the daytime 85-90 is pretty much the going rate for the outside lane. I'd rather more realistically speed limits properly enforced (ie we all know where we stand rather than assuming 80 is ok to do on a motorway).
Old 18 February 2008, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by borat52
Bombing along at 100 on a busy motorway with the lane inside you doing 70 is not safe, doing 100 when your only passing a car every other mile is not a problem imho.

Even on quieter motorways in the daytime 85-90 is pretty much the going rate for the outside lane. I'd rather more realistically speed limits properly enforced (ie we all know where we stand rather than assuming 80 is ok to do on a motorway).
Trouble with that is every tom dick and harry will be allowed to do the same speeds.
You really want a half wit doing 90 in the outside lane at night, just because there is little traffic about.

Educate the masses first
Old 20 February 2008, 12:57 AM
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Regrettably, if a copper catches you undertaking, for any reason other than in very slow moving congested traffic, he can do you for driving without due car. Wrong, but fact.


I thought about this post today as I now see some trucks don't use the the empty nearside lane on the new 5 lane section at Heathrow.
And on the M3 tonight I flashed the person sitting in the middle lane, they pulled into the empty nearside lane and as I pulled in after overtaking them,they moved back into the middle lane!

If someone sticks in the outside lane when the other two lanes are empty I go into the nearside lane and ease past them at about a 5 mph difference so if any plod stops me I can say the guy in the outside lane must have slowed down. You can't argue this is you slice by at speed!
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