Housewives should be paid £29,000
19 February 2008, 08:51 AM
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It's amazing that some people call a woman a troll for sticking up for herself, when most of these comments are trying to wind women up and dismiss them as money grabbing bitches who are just out for themselves.
This is the 21st century, not the 1950s.
19 February 2008, 09:01 AM
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My better half is at home with 2 little ones and there is no way in the world I would do that job for £29k. It is probably one of the most rewarding yet toughest jobs on the planet.
19 February 2008, 09:18 AM
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honestly, some people
However, anyone thinking it's easy looking after a young kid, and doing it well, cleary hasn't done it!
Looking after house, on the other hand - piece of preverbial. Nobody ever died from not vaccy twice a day
19 February 2008, 09:20 AM
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Thing is, nowadays most women do a full-time job AND do all of the housework and morning/evening childcare. But saying that, my house gets vacuumed once a week if it's lucky! 
I haven't died yet and because we're not in it most of the time, don't see if getting too dirty.
I haven't died yet and because we're not in it most of the time, don't see if getting too dirty.
19 February 2008, 09:43 AM
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We have a cleaner - no way am I spending precious evenings and weekends doing the housework!!!!!!!!!!
As for the childcare - well, he will have to do his share as we have twins!
As for the childcare - well, he will have to do his share as we have twins!
19 February 2008, 11:03 AM
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im a house wife and i get paid jack!!! i look after my little en ALL day and ALL night, this involves changing sh***y nappies, feeding, running round after them, cleaning up after them. as well as all this i clean the house, doing the washing and the house is always nice and tidy, then i make tea,whilst he watches dave, then bath the child, feed the child and put the child to bed!! then its time for me, and he wants sex!! i do all this and dnt get anything, if i cud out a price on it, it wud be more like £50k!!!!! its a bloody hard job!!!! like to see a man try it!!!
abroad once a year, have your own free car and can pretty much do what you want!
Try earning the household money, i would rather be at home with no worries looking after a kid than at work 50 hours a week, worrying about deadlines, carrer path, appraisals, wages etc etc
50k are you mad?
19 February 2008, 11:12 AM
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im a house wife and i get paid jack!!! i look after my little en ALL day and ALL night, this involves changing sh***y nappies, feeding, running round after them, cleaning up after them. as well as all this i clean the house, doing the washing and the house is always nice and tidy, then i make tea,whilst he watches dave, then bath the child, feed the child and put the child to bed!! then its time for me, and he wants sex!! i do all this and dnt get anything, if i cud out a price on it, it wud be more like £50k!!!!! its a bloody hard job!!!! like to see a man try it!!!
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19 February 2008, 11:26 AM
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I bet you dont pay for anything, have your own credit card that he pays off, get
abroad once a year, have your own free car and can pretty much do what you want!
Try earning the household money, i would rather be at home with no worries looking after a kid than at work 50 hours a week, worrying about deadlines, carrer path, appraisals, wages etc etc
abroad once a year, have your own free car and can pretty much do what you want!
Try earning the household money, i would rather be at home with no worries looking after a kid than at work 50 hours a week, worrying about deadlines, carrer path, appraisals, wages etc etc
19 February 2008, 12:12 PM
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Definitely a case of those having a go don't have kids... LOL.
But, we shouldn't complain about bringing up the kids that we've made a concious decision to have.... They can be annoying and frustrating at times, but remember when you go to kiss them goodnight when they're asleep, they're your little angel...
But, we shouldn't complain about bringing up the kids that we've made a concious decision to have.... They can be annoying and frustrating at times, but remember when you go to kiss them goodnight when they're asleep, they're your little angel...
19 February 2008, 12:15 PM
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I bet you dont pay for anything, have your own credit card that he pays off, get
abroad once a year, have your own free car and can pretty much do what you want!
Try earning the household money, i would rather be at home with no worries looking after a kid than at work 50 hours a week, worrying about deadlines, carrer path, appraisals, wages etc etc
50k are you mad?
abroad once a year, have your own free car and can pretty much do what you want!
Try earning the household money, i would rather be at home with no worries looking after a kid than at work 50 hours a week, worrying about deadlines, carrer path, appraisals, wages etc etc
50k are you mad?
Nice planet you live on .... room for one more
19 February 2008, 12:17 PM
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19 February 2008, 12:21 PM
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A relationship is a partnership, each party bringing something to the table. Remember, it takes 2 people to make a baby.
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There is also the stuff that men do outside of work; servicing the car, mowing the grass, painting, little fixing jobs, taxi service, changing lightbulbs, security guard, etc. etc., the difference is not as great as implied by the newspaper.
Not saying that women can't do the above, but that seems to be where the division of labour is generally.
Not saying that women can't do the above, but that seems to be where the division of labour is generally.
19 February 2008, 01:12 PM
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There is also the stuff that men do outside of work; servicing the car, mowing the grass, painting, little fixing jobs, taxi service, changing lightbulbs, security guard, etc. etc., the difference is not as great as implied by the newspaper.
Not saying that women can't do the above, but that seems to be where the division of labour is generally.
Not saying that women can't do the above, but that seems to be where the division of labour is generally.
19 February 2008, 01:25 PM
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I'd look after our house and our daughter for that money.
We both work and my wife works a Saturday which is when I do alot of the housework. Keeps me busy and keeps the place clean. What I don't do she does on Monday as its her day off.
its not hard keeping a family going and having 2 jobs.
19 February 2008, 01:27 PM
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Not quite sure how I'm gonna manage a 3 wheeler buggy with 2 rugrats in it in London though Clare - I'll let you know how many ankles I catch
19 February 2008, 01:55 PM
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WOW - isn't is amazing to see what a chauvanistic world we STILL live in!
I'm a "housewife" - I'd refer to is as much as a domestic engineer - and like many other's on here, if I wrote down my day from start to finish with every little detail - much like a "job description", you'd all get bored after an hour of reding I'm sure.
I DID choose to have children - and I'm not saying that anyone should pay me to do it - although it would be nice
but I often feel personally that whilst I am on call 24 hours a day (I have 3 kids all under 4), combine the housework, the shopping, the school and nursery drop offs etc, we also have dogs who need looking after, I think I probably get to sit down at about 8pm at night - and I get up at 6.30am!
I think I have the hardest job in the world and I would pay to see a man try to keep up with it for one week! (Not sure I'd pay 29k to see it though LOL).
And who mentioned Trolls ..............
I'm a "housewife" - I'd refer to is as much as a domestic engineer - and like many other's on here, if I wrote down my day from start to finish with every little detail - much like a "job description", you'd all get bored after an hour of reding I'm sure.
I DID choose to have children - and I'm not saying that anyone should pay me to do it - although it would be nice
but I often feel personally that whilst I am on call 24 hours a day (I have 3 kids all under 4), combine the housework, the shopping, the school and nursery drop offs etc, we also have dogs who need looking after, I think I probably get to sit down at about 8pm at night - and I get up at 6.30am!
I think I have the hardest job in the world and I would pay to see a man try to keep up with it for one week! (Not sure I'd pay 29k to see it though LOL).
And who mentioned Trolls ..............
19 February 2008, 02:11 PM
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Coffee?? Im hoping theres a lunch in their too....
What about the women who could earn more than the men but the men want them to stay at home to bring up the children? When I met my partner I was a bank manager with a financial planning certificate..... he was a plasterer working for a major housebuilder... he wanted me to give up my job... I could of been earning 3 times what he did....
I did... so now I stay at home with the children.. oh and he left the housebuilder and now has his own thriving business because I had the time to put into the promotion and admin side of
catch you later... isnt trisha or something on???
Whats daytime television.. infact whats a soap?
19 February 2008, 02:23 PM
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Its not always about the money spoon, sometimes its about quality not quantity.... going from your location I take you are single no kids
19 February 2008, 02:27 PM
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19 February 2008, 02:57 PM
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This subject always cracks me up.
there are some key points :
1) I could have earnt more, but HE wanted me to give up my job to look after the kids.
Answer : Leave the bloke then. If you don't like it, don't do it. It was 100% your choice. Instead find a man who wants to stay at home while you go out and work. But not many women would want to find this man (this isn't sexest, its just a fact). Some, but not many.
2) staying at home and looking after the kids is a doddle.
Answer : Dream on. It just isn't. and secondly.. would you actually WANT to do it? I certainly bloody wouldn't! Anyone who thinks its an easy option, TOO has the option to do it. Find a woman who wants to go to work while you stay at home and look after the kids. But not many men would want to find this woman. Some, but not many.
Then we move on to the whole "how much should you be paid"?
Well, you know what? In some ways, I'd quite like to see that.
At the end of the day, its a job. It has a salary of sorts.
If Wife A, does exactly the same work as Wife B.. they go through the same traumas, the same stress, the same tiredness, loneliness, depression, etc, etc (and, lets not forget, also get the same joy and pleasures from their life also) ...
yet Husband A works his 4rse off and earns £1M a year, and Husband B works 9-5 and earns £30K a year...
Wife A, gets a considerably better lifestyle for her the amount of work she puts in, when compared to Wife B.
If / When they get divorced, Wife A gets a considerably better pay-off for the work she's put in.
It may be that I just have a really simple brain, but that doesn't add up to me.
In some ways, I think it would be much fairer to agree "housewife" (which I class as someone who has no job, and who does pretty much all the housework, and looks after then kids, etc) carries a theoretical salary. Then conceptually you both agree how you live your lives.
If you decide to live in a £3m mantion, and drive Ferrari's, well I'm sorry, your £50K (or whatever is decided to be the correct salary) has been spent by about February 3rd! When it comes to divorce time, you owe your husband a load of cash.
Of course, I'm being extremist here, but I do think the whole system is so badly biased against men, and its so polically incorrect to say anything other.
there are some key points :
1) I could have earnt more, but HE wanted me to give up my job to look after the kids.
Answer : Leave the bloke then. If you don't like it, don't do it. It was 100% your choice. Instead find a man who wants to stay at home while you go out and work. But not many women would want to find this man (this isn't sexest, its just a fact). Some, but not many.
2) staying at home and looking after the kids is a doddle.
Answer : Dream on. It just isn't. and secondly.. would you actually WANT to do it? I certainly bloody wouldn't! Anyone who thinks its an easy option, TOO has the option to do it. Find a woman who wants to go to work while you stay at home and look after the kids. But not many men would want to find this woman. Some, but not many.
Then we move on to the whole "how much should you be paid"?
Well, you know what? In some ways, I'd quite like to see that.
At the end of the day, its a job. It has a salary of sorts.
If Wife A, does exactly the same work as Wife B.. they go through the same traumas, the same stress, the same tiredness, loneliness, depression, etc, etc (and, lets not forget, also get the same joy and pleasures from their life also) ...
yet Husband A works his 4rse off and earns £1M a year, and Husband B works 9-5 and earns £30K a year...
Wife A, gets a considerably better lifestyle for her the amount of work she puts in, when compared to Wife B.
If / When they get divorced, Wife A gets a considerably better pay-off for the work she's put in.
It may be that I just have a really simple brain, but that doesn't add up to me.
In some ways, I think it would be much fairer to agree "housewife" (which I class as someone who has no job, and who does pretty much all the housework, and looks after then kids, etc) carries a theoretical salary. Then conceptually you both agree how you live your lives.
If you decide to live in a £3m mantion, and drive Ferrari's, well I'm sorry, your £50K (or whatever is decided to be the correct salary) has been spent by about February 3rd! When it comes to divorce time, you owe your husband a load of cash.
Of course, I'm being extremist here, but I do think the whole system is so badly biased against men, and its so polically incorrect to say anything other.
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