Where's the line between bravery and stupidity?
26 February 2008, 01:48 PM
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Thought about this a bit more yesterday. Another example I was going to put up was that Chinese cliff boardwalk that I posted a few days ago. Are you brave or stupid to go across that? And it seems difficult to describe it as brave - daring maybe but not brave - as there doesn't seem to be any act of selflessness involved.
26 February 2008, 01:54 PM
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Thought about this a bit more yesterday. Another example I was going to put up was that Chinese cliff boardwalk that I posted a few days ago. Are you brave or stupid to go across that? And it seems difficult to describe it as brave - daring maybe but not brave - as there doesn't seem to be any act of selflessness involved.
26 February 2008, 02:41 PM
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I know I would do whatever was necessary to protect my wife and kids without a second thought.
Jumping into the middle of a fight to stop someone getting hurt I'd probably be more wary.Sadly
26 February 2008, 04:06 PM
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Both are simply in the eye of the beholder. One mans bravery is another mans stupidity.
Bravery comes with a certain amount of confidence. It can be called stupidity when somebody doesn't have the confidence to try it and not because it's necessarily stupid.
Stepping in between 2 fighting dogs shows you care. Not something recommended but difficult not to if you don't want to see either dog hurt.
The knife incident you did right because you got it right. Had you just bítch slapped him it might have been a different outcome.
As for the dogs or particularly the breed and fighting, well it kind of explains the importance of not trusting any animal and should be copied and pasted on to every recent and future dog thread.
Bravery comes with a certain amount of confidence. It can be called stupidity when somebody doesn't have the confidence to try it and not because it's necessarily stupid.
Stepping in between 2 fighting dogs shows you care. Not something recommended but difficult not to if you don't want to see either dog hurt.
The knife incident you did right because you got it right. Had you just bítch slapped him it might have been a different outcome.
As for the dogs or particularly the breed and fighting, well it kind of explains the importance of not trusting any animal and should be copied and pasted on to every recent and future dog thread.
I'd pretty much agree with the above, but add that as far as doing something that is not particularly "safe", for me a less than 50% chance of a favourable outcome (and I'd consider a non life threatening/debilitating injury a favourable outcome) is stupid. A more than 50% chance is brave.
Playing the odds - when you can, of course.
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26 February 2008, 04:18 PM
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26 February 2008, 05:37 PM
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Sort of, but if it were 4 "harder" dogs fighting Brendan may have had more than a bruise, and dogs fighting each other is different from dogs attacking - for want of a better word - humans.
26 February 2008, 05:56 PM
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Most people who do not walk on by do things by instinct.
Sometimes the instinct is right, and sometimes its wrong. But as least we did something.
So I don't think there is a defining line that you can march up to and then stop.
Each incident plays itself out in different ways and we react accordingly.
I suspect there are very few who really know what they should be doing and those are folk who have trained for the specific circumstances or who have had training they can instinctively adapt to suit the incident.
As for separating dogs? Not for me unless I'd got a large stout stick or - better still - a fire extinguisher which I saw someone use once to great effect!
Sometimes the instinct is right, and sometimes its wrong. But as least we did something.
So I don't think there is a defining line that you can march up to and then stop.
Each incident plays itself out in different ways and we react accordingly.
I suspect there are very few who really know what they should be doing and those are folk who have trained for the specific circumstances or who have had training they can instinctively adapt to suit the incident.
As for separating dogs? Not for me unless I'd got a large stout stick or - better still - a fire extinguisher which I saw someone use once to great effect!
26 February 2008, 07:31 PM
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27 February 2008, 12:46 PM
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Most people who do not walk on by do things by instinct.
Sometimes the instinct is right, and sometimes its wrong. But as least we did something.
So I don't think there is a defining line that you can march up to and then stop.
Each incident plays itself out in different ways and we react accordingly.
I suspect there are very few who really know what they should be doing and those are folk who have trained for the specific circumstances or who have had training they can instinctively adapt to suit the incident.
As for separating dogs? Not for me unless I'd got a large stout stick or - better still - a fire extinguisher which I saw someone use once to great effect!
Sometimes the instinct is right, and sometimes its wrong. But as least we did something.
So I don't think there is a defining line that you can march up to and then stop.
Each incident plays itself out in different ways and we react accordingly.
I suspect there are very few who really know what they should be doing and those are folk who have trained for the specific circumstances or who have had training they can instinctively adapt to suit the incident.
As for separating dogs? Not for me unless I'd got a large stout stick or - better still - a fire extinguisher which I saw someone use once to great effect!
Les
27 February 2008, 06:46 PM
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And what has that got to do with someone being bruised when stopping a dog fight between a Wiemeraner and a Golden Retriever?
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