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Old 28 February 2008, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
I have total contempt for the police and the law this government has forced upon us. I regard them as completely untrustworthy when I have to deal with them, which is not very often.

Andy
My exact feelings. I've brought my kids up not to trust the coppers, with good reason.

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Old 28 February 2008, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fatscoobfella1
Why be afraid...??Do what you have to do the face up to the consequence..

I have done 2 terms at her Madgies pleasure when i was younger..

After the first couple of days,its a doddle..
Its attitudes like that, that make this country the sh*thole that it is. Were you never taught things like respect and right and wrong?????

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Old 28 February 2008, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
My exact feelings. I've brought my kids up not to trust the coppers, with good reason.

Alcazar

I’ll bring mine up to not trust mechanics, roofers, estate agents, taxi drivers, black people, er, Scottish, Irish, immigrants and clowns.

Good old Bigoted SN eh?

Nothing like letting people make up their own minds. Hitler youth started in a similar way....

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Old 28 February 2008, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
I’ll bring mine up to not trust mechanics, roofers, estate agents, taxi drivers, black people, er, Scottish, Irish, immigrants and clowns.
Good man, people are starting to learn
Old 28 February 2008, 12:15 PM
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The major problem is the attitude of the PC courts and the authorities to the whole business. This load of creeps running the country believe that criminals are not at fault because they probably had a dysfunctional upbringing and therefore they do not really deserve to be punished so much as "rehabilitated", even if they do know right from wrong. So now we are at the stage where the judiciary is being asked by the politicians not to give them gaol sentences but rather community sentences which they ignore anyway because they feel that is most likely to prevent re-offending they say! What a load of plonkers! By the same token, children are now becoming impossible to control in school or at home because they may not be subject to any kind of meaningful punishment so they are never taught the meaning of discipline etc. Todays reports of the treatment of teachers is horrifying.

On the other hand however, if you are a middle class law abiding person and make a small mistake, you will get hammered for it and the person who wronged you will almost certainly get away with it!

This reverse attitude to lawbreaking and the treatment of the ordinary public is typical of these clowns in charge and is leading to complete lack of cooperation by the general public with the police etc.

It does of course save money on building prisons in order to protect the public as we have seen of course. What a state these pratts have allowed the country to fall into!

Les

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Old 28 February 2008, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Hitler youth started in a similar way....
Oh man, Godwins law again, that's twice in two days, sorry, but you automatically lose the debate
Old 28 February 2008, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Oh man, Godwins law again, that's twice in two days, sorry, but you automatically lose the debate
On your say so eh?

Hardly.
Old 28 February 2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
My exact feelings. I've brought my kids up not to trust the coppers, with good reason.

Alcazar
Nice start in life for them.
Old 28 February 2008, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
On your say so eh?

Hardly.
I was being slightly tongue in cheek.

Godwins law - "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving ***** or Hitler approaches one."

Basically if you are going to bring in **** Germany, you better have a stupendously good reason for doing so.

From wikipedia

There are many corollaries to Godwin's law, some considered more canonical (by being adopted by Godwin himself)[2] than others invented later.[1] For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the ***** has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress.


You didn't' therefore you lose
Old 28 February 2008, 01:08 PM
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Following an attempted break-in the best advice I had was:
"I feared for my* life" NOT I that thought my life was threatened. Big difference, apparently.

While this event still gives me the creeps, I believe there's 2 courses of action.
  1. Detain the unwanted visitor risking the possibility of being charged with assault for having the cable ties^ too tight
  2. Take the f**cker out and plead "I feared for my* life".
Regarding my break-in:
Funniest thing was that I greeted the miscreant with a telescopic truncheon (only slightly illegal ) only to be joined by the police sporting similar hardware.

^ restraints of choice
*"my" would include include immediate family and such.

Seriously, it'd be nice to think that if an uninvited individual strayed into my domain I'd have the right to defend what's mine, no questions.
Old 28 February 2008, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
I was being slightly tongue in cheek.


From wikipedia
Enough said .

If Wikipedia is your source of reference then it must be correct...... Surely

Try The Sun for a similar level, or even The Daily Mail
Old 28 February 2008, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Enough said .

If Wikipedia is your source of reference then it must be correct. Try The Sun for a similar level
D'oh! I was giving you a wikipedia reference for ease of use - Godwins law is a recognised phenomenom that happens all the time - as you so conveniently deomonstrated

How about The Economist?
Economist.com

Originally Posted by The Economist
“****” and “apartheid” are strong words that should be used sparingly and precisely out of their original context—and probably not at all. (A good rule in most discussions is that the first person to call the other a **** automatically loses the argument.)


Or the Smithsonian?

Smithsonian Magazine | Arts & Culture | Last Page: In the Name of the Law

Originally Posted by Smithsonian
Godwin's Law is also handy. It holds that the longer an argument drags on, the likelier someone will stoop to a Hitler or **** analogy. And in common practice (other than in appropriate contexts, such as discussions of genocide), when an adversary tries it, you have only to say "Godwin's Law" and a trapdoor falls open, plunging your rival into a pool of hungry crocodiles. Sweet, no?
Old 28 February 2008, 02:52 PM
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That's better.

I like to keep people working on throw away remarks against bigots
Old 28 February 2008, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre

I like to keep people working on throw away remarks against bigots

Hey, I'm all for attacking bigots, just not with *****
Old 28 February 2008, 03:02 PM
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Hit one with another.

It's not protect a **** week again is it? They get too many rights these days
Old 28 February 2008, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ms Gooner 1;7691323[B
]"am i scared of the law" NO! Mainly because I don't make habbit of breaking it![/B]
Do I get road rage - ab-so-bloody-lutely - but when their too big for me to sort out - I send round my hubby!!!
I had one twit who cut me up on a roundabout when I had all the kids in the car! He was infront of me being VERy clever - giving me the finger and laughing and we were going the same way - i was in the scoob and he thought he was so clever - even waved goodbye to me as we pulled apart! I was raging - he was a bloody idiot and nearly wrote my car off with the kids in!
I double backed and saw the dead end road he took - watched him park up!
Came home, sent Gooner round there - low and behold - after a short while - the bloke pulled up in TESCO car park and ran off left his girlfriend there in the car, in the middle of the road and literally ran away!


Sorry but I read this as a huge contradiction,
Old 28 February 2008, 07:46 PM
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Old 29 February 2008, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
D'oh! I was giving you a wikipedia reference for ease of use - Godwins law is a recognised phenomenom that happens all the time - as you so conveniently deomonstrated



But what if the other party is a ****, or rather, a neo-****..... (new, contemporary thinking and all that!)

Would the party that accused the **** of being a **** still lose the argument?

I wonder what the average thread length is on neo-**** forums? I imagine they must be very short! They'd all be having a good old laugh about the less than perfect races and people with dark hair, and one of them pops up and mentions Hitler, and the thread is finished..... All the fun is over.....
Old 29 February 2008, 09:13 AM
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Old 29 February 2008, 09:49 AM
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i had this conversation with my brother the other day when we were discussing how crap this country is getting.

We concluded that if some one broke in and threatened us the best course of action would be to kill them, then drive the body out to a lake somewhere, attach some bricks and dump it in.

That way you may avoid being prosecuted. if you dont do this and they so much as get a splinter while breaking in you may end up in prison.

so really killing the theiving scumbags is the only choice if you want to stay out of hmp hilton.
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