al4x1

The main factor is Ignorance is no defence in this. I run a courier company and do tell drivers but only because I found out when one was nicked. Its a fact its hidden in law and you really need to read the highway code well to spot it. On a side note a fair number of Scottish dual carriageways are signed 70 just so transit sized vehicles can do 70.
If you choose to go to court you will loose it and you will get a bigger fine, 3 points is no biggie in the transport industry or with car insurance. All that will happen in court is the magistrate will explain that you were speeding and award the fine and points plus costs.

speedking

For clarity, the OP had been on an A road for 6 miles?

You've lost me there You were speeding and have been given the appropriate fixed penalty. In what way is the law not being enforced correctly?

Your company should be reviewing its procedures, and even if its policy is to sack drivers who get 3 points (which is doubtful) they should be making an exception here. Should you get sacked you could go for unfair dismissal due to lack of training.

Anyone who tows a trailer, or hires a van, would be well advised to check the speed limits for their vehicle. This thread has done its job.

94impreza

Realistically i wasn't speeding, i was doing the speed limit (and as i suspected my picture shows a car in front of me, obviously doing the same speed) the only reason it could be said i was "speeding" was purely the vehicle i was in...being pulled over and warned about the limit would have resulted in me then obiding by the law. Its not like i was doing a ton ffs!

As for "A" road the speed limit on this stretch of road is 70. Now if i'm ignorant then why exactly was a subbie driver caught speeding at 95 on the same stretch a year ago and actually in court the judge's actual words were "There are no excuses you were 25mph over the limit". It would appear judge fella, and the officer who caught him who was also in court are also ignorant to the fact he was in a sprinter and was actually 35mph over the limit.
I'm sorry if this thread is going on and on but i'm not the sort of person to just lie down and take a fine for a breaking a law i didn't even know existed.

If in the end i take the points and fine (which having 2 kids means i can't just pull £60 out of my ****) then i will seek legal action against my company and the assessor at my work.

speedking

Realistically you were speeding. It doesn't matter how many judges, policemen, assessors, van drivers or Snetters are ignorant of this law, you were the man on the spot and will get fined.

Your 'defence' could be used by any HGV driver to do 70mph all over the place. (As stated previously, ignorance is no excuse for the law.)

If you can't easily find £60 I wouldn't advise going to court, when not only will you lose a days wages, but will have to pay costs on top of the £60+ fine that you will get.

Its not like you're being locked up and having your van crushed.

94impreza

Would you accept a parking ticket if there wasn't any warning signs or double yellow lines? I'm being punished on a technicality, a technicality if you read this thread properly many people aren't aware of.

Not easy to listen to someone called "speedking" either lol.

97TURBO

I was'nt aware that it was a different law in England for that but thanks for pointing it out. Hope he didnt take the advice
We do seem to have it a little easier up here when it comes to roads.

fatherpierre

You're being punished for breaking the law. Just because you weren't aware of that law being in place makes no difference. A lovely get out clause if it was ever used as a stated case. I didn't realise stabbing her to death was...............

It is, I agree, a technicality. But you you have still broken the law. You're no different those that use hire cars that have some fault and are unlucky enought to get pulled and that fault noticed, ending with the driver getting the fine for driving it.

The law is an *** in many areas, but tis still the law, my old fruit.

Take it to court and you'll get your *** toasted if you get the usual magistrate I deal with on traffic stuff. It's all black or white and you'll be sent out with a hefty fine and double the points offered initially. It's up to you to know the law relating to the vehicle you're driving, ultimately.

andy97

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Andy
If you follow this tactic and live in or near Scotland, be prepared not to answer the door to strangers for 6 months.

Leslie

Sounds like good advice to me.

Les