Would you just gawp as an old lady died…?
04 March 2008, 11:13 AM
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Sounds like old dears are better off shopping at sainsburys then! I thought there was some law about not helping someone in distress? I hope if i have an accident one day the only people around arent the ones off this thread who drive straight past. I'd like to think i would try to help someone in need but the sad truth is i don't have a clue what to do! Maybe if i'd been taught first aid at school instead of Personal Social Religious Education B***S**T then I'd be able to!
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04 March 2008, 11:22 AM
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You did well Diesel, sort of thing I would have expected you to do anyway, but it is upsetting how so many these days will just turn away and ignore something like that. However it turned out, your actions gave her the best chance, hope she was alright anyway.
How can anybody be thinking about legalities etc. when helping someone in trouble beats me!
Les
How can anybody be thinking about legalities etc. when helping someone in trouble beats me!
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04 March 2008, 12:39 PM
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I have seen this, was on a course and we were going for lunch at a hotel, a lady on the course, tripped and launched herself down a flight of stairs landing on her wrist which snapped and her teeth which fell out, she was in a bad way, I helped her to a sitting position and kept talking to her whilst the course tutor stood not knowing whether to go for a p1ss or a haircut, one guy seemed dissapointed his lunch would be delayed, the hotel staff were useless, clueless reception girl and a manager feigning concern but more bothered about the hotels liability for the accident, trying to find out whether she tripped by herself, whether someone tripped her of whether it was a carpet defect (she landed on stone, carpet only went to the top of the stairs)
I had to shout at the receptionist to get an ambulance, she asked whether she needed one and she was trying to get the first aider thought she was bleeding and had a broken wrist ?
I had to shout at the receptionist to get an ambulance, she asked whether she needed one and she was trying to get the first aider thought she was bleeding and had a broken wrist ?
04 March 2008, 03:19 PM
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Popped in to a CoOp to get a sarnie for my lunch on my way to a job in Cheltenham on Sat morning. Bit of commotion at one of the checkouts, but, as I was quite far back in the long queue I didn’t pay much attention. Little bit later I stepped forward out of curiosity and there was an old lady flat out on the deck by the till. Well cut a long story short, got someone to help me pick her up and get her sat down with legs up, and she was so apologetic for ‘being a nuisance’; love her. Anyway, again to cut a long story short, after a few chats and her coming and going in consciousness. she eventually ended up being fully unconscious white and limp. During these chats I had to call an ambulance as the only other person that offered to call one couldn’t get a signal. Got another chap to hold her head and the security guard to try to chat and re-assure her.
Ambulance came pretty quick (after some daft questions on the phone that assumed I was her relative and knew her history and WHY did I think she had had a stroke (only a punters guess mate…)). When ambulance came I rushed out to get them in asap and told them what I’d seen.
I’m not actually sure she died, but could feel no pulse towards the end and she was totally unconscious and white. Guess I’ll never know as I’m not family and cant call the local hospital and ask how Pauline fared. Any Docs here – odd that she did seem to recover for a bit after the initial unconsciousness? She did make a big chesty noise before going totally out.
I didn’t really know what to do (and should probably have left her on the floor and covered her with a blanket it seems) but she didn’t seem to have had a head bump (checked her and with cashier) and was quite lucid then and really wanted to get up – looked like she’d just fainted.
Just got me that people were so indifferent and simply stood and stared. The CoOp carried on business as usual and there seemed to be nobody there trained in first aid. Bit horrified that if that happened to be my Mum and the only person willing to take an interest was someone late for work and from 100 miles away.
Wonder how she got on; wonder what it was. Really didn’t look good.
D
Ambulance came pretty quick (after some daft questions on the phone that assumed I was her relative and knew her history and WHY did I think she had had a stroke (only a punters guess mate…)). When ambulance came I rushed out to get them in asap and told them what I’d seen.
I’m not actually sure she died, but could feel no pulse towards the end and she was totally unconscious and white. Guess I’ll never know as I’m not family and cant call the local hospital and ask how Pauline fared. Any Docs here – odd that she did seem to recover for a bit after the initial unconsciousness? She did make a big chesty noise before going totally out.
I didn’t really know what to do (and should probably have left her on the floor and covered her with a blanket it seems) but she didn’t seem to have had a head bump (checked her and with cashier) and was quite lucid then and really wanted to get up – looked like she’d just fainted.
Just got me that people were so indifferent and simply stood and stared. The CoOp carried on business as usual and there seemed to be nobody there trained in first aid. Bit horrified that if that happened to be my Mum and the only person willing to take an interest was someone late for work and from 100 miles away.
Wonder how she got on; wonder what it was. Really didn’t look good.
D
Good to hear that there are some more of us left who actually give a sh*t
04 March 2008, 03:56 PM
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Popped in to a CoOp to get a sarnie for my lunch on my way to a job in Cheltenham on Sat morning. Bit of commotion at one of the checkouts, but, as I was quite far back in the long queue I didn’t pay much attention. Little bit later I stepped forward out of curiosity and there was an old lady flat out on the deck by the till. Well cut a long story short, got someone to help me pick her up and get her sat down with legs up, and she was so apologetic for ‘being a nuisance’; love her. Anyway, again to cut a long story short, after a few chats and her coming and going in consciousness. she eventually ended up being fully unconscious white and limp. During these chats I had to call an ambulance as the only other person that offered to call one couldn’t get a signal. Got another chap to hold her head and the security guard to try to chat and re-assure her.
Ambulance came pretty quick (after some daft questions on the phone that assumed I was her relative and knew her history and WHY did I think she had had a stroke (only a punters guess mate…)). When ambulance came I rushed out to get them in asap and told them what I’d seen.
I’m not actually sure she died, but could feel no pulse towards the end and she was totally unconscious and white. Guess I’ll never know as I’m not family and cant call the local hospital and ask how Pauline fared. Any Docs here – odd that she did seem to recover for a bit after the initial unconsciousness? She did make a big chesty noise before going totally out.
I didn’t really know what to do (and should probably have left her on the floor and covered her with a blanket it seems) but she didn’t seem to have had a head bump (checked her and with cashier) and was quite lucid then and really wanted to get up – looked like she’d just fainted.
Just got me that people were so indifferent and simply stood and stared. The CoOp carried on business as usual and there seemed to be nobody there trained in first aid. Bit horrified that if that happened to be my Mum and the only person willing to take an interest was someone late for work and from 100 miles away.
Wonder how she got on; wonder what it was. Really didn’t look good.
D
Ambulance came pretty quick (after some daft questions on the phone that assumed I was her relative and knew her history and WHY did I think she had had a stroke (only a punters guess mate…)). When ambulance came I rushed out to get them in asap and told them what I’d seen.
I’m not actually sure she died, but could feel no pulse towards the end and she was totally unconscious and white. Guess I’ll never know as I’m not family and cant call the local hospital and ask how Pauline fared. Any Docs here – odd that she did seem to recover for a bit after the initial unconsciousness? She did make a big chesty noise before going totally out.
I didn’t really know what to do (and should probably have left her on the floor and covered her with a blanket it seems) but she didn’t seem to have had a head bump (checked her and with cashier) and was quite lucid then and really wanted to get up – looked like she’d just fainted.
Just got me that people were so indifferent and simply stood and stared. The CoOp carried on business as usual and there seemed to be nobody there trained in first aid. Bit horrified that if that happened to be my Mum and the only person willing to take an interest was someone late for work and from 100 miles away.
Wonder how she got on; wonder what it was. Really didn’t look good.
D
well done that man for helping. you may have caught the thread a couple thursdays ago about the similar incident i was involved in. cyclist, landrover, wham! i was one of only 2 people to stop and help. thankfully hes survived. and i was running late to drop 'er in doors off too for work.
well done mate, know exactly how you feel.
04 March 2008, 04:41 PM
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Well done for trying Diesel, I would have done the same, but as your relative (?) said - best thing is not to move people even if the floor is cold or if they're in an embarassing position/location.
As simple a thing as a faint can potentially have consequences if someone is made to get up, or sit up, or tries to get up too quickly due to low blood pressure in the head causing oxygen starvation issues - leave them on the floor in the recovery position is best and give all the comfort you can give ( bollox to those who say don't get involved). Had this beaten into me by my brother who is a very senior medic.
I don't think that you did any damage for a second and I hope the old lady made it, but it's worth mentioning for others.
As simple a thing as a faint can potentially have consequences if someone is made to get up, or sit up, or tries to get up too quickly due to low blood pressure in the head causing oxygen starvation issues - leave them on the floor in the recovery position is best and give all the comfort you can give ( bollox to those who say don't get involved). Had this beaten into me by my brother who is a very senior medic.
I don't think that you did any damage for a second and I hope the old lady made it, but it's worth mentioning for others.
04 March 2008, 05:44 PM
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[QUOTE=Tam the bam;7704784]Well done you, respect to you for helping the lady 
A lot of people don't want to help those in distress as they can get sued big time if they help someone who later suffers brain damage etc as a result, my head would say walk away due to litigation which might be brought against me, but my heart would make me go help (just as you did) Good on ya
although technically you could be sued, no one has ever been succsessfully sued or prosecuted for this.
a trained first aider is more likely to be sued if they go outside of their scope, but it has never happened to date.
any member of the public is assumed to be trying to save the life of the person concerned by whatever means they can.
and as they have no training are less likely to be sued with any success.
primarily because there is only the intent to save life.
hth all those who fear getting involved, not being able to respond like
the op or c.o.b did, is nothing to be ashamed off, a lot of people can not respond to these situations, but to not do it through fear of litigation is scary.
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A lot of people don't want to help those in distress as they can get sued big time if they help someone who later suffers brain damage etc as a result, my head would say walk away due to litigation which might be brought against me, but my heart would make me go help (just as you did) Good on ya
although technically you could be sued, no one has ever been succsessfully sued or prosecuted for this.
a trained first aider is more likely to be sued if they go outside of their scope, but it has never happened to date.
any member of the public is assumed to be trying to save the life of the person concerned by whatever means they can.
and as they have no training are less likely to be sued with any success.
primarily because there is only the intent to save life.
hth all those who fear getting involved, not being able to respond like
the op or c.o.b did, is nothing to be ashamed off, a lot of people can not respond to these situations, but to not do it through fear of litigation is scary.'
04 March 2008, 08:17 PM
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well done
I've had 2 serious accidents in the past where strangers have come to my help, never gave me their details so i never got the chance to thank them which i would have done.
Aged 17 - knocked off a motorbike, fractured femur, foot, ankle, etc - some1 came running from nowhere with blankets (i think) and kept me calm while waiting for ambulance (got charged Ł24 for the ambulance?)
10 years ago - head on with an artic, shoulder completley shattered, ripped open with all the glass, passing motorist stopped and held pressure on the open artery (using my coat ) and kept me consious until ambulance came
hope to say i'd do the same thing without hesitation but it's difficult to say until you come across it - i wouldn't think about not helping just in case i got sued though
I've had 2 serious accidents in the past where strangers have come to my help, never gave me their details so i never got the chance to thank them which i would have done.
Aged 17 - knocked off a motorbike, fractured femur, foot, ankle, etc - some1 came running from nowhere with blankets (i think) and kept me calm while waiting for ambulance (got charged Ł24 for the ambulance?)
10 years ago - head on with an artic, shoulder completley shattered, ripped open with all the glass, passing motorist stopped and held pressure on the open artery (using my coat
) and kept me consious until ambulance camehope to say i'd do the same thing without hesitation but it's difficult to say until you come across it - i wouldn't think about not helping just in case i got sued though
04 March 2008, 08:33 PM
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04 March 2008, 11:59 PM
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Surprised I didn't receive an infraction on my comments on this thread, I see you all happily negged my comments! not one person positively rated the post of mine saying my wife is a nurse helping kids, but you like to kick me in the teeth when I say something you don't agree with!
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05 March 2008, 09:48 AM
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I'll still give you first aid mate if you are bleeding in the street after being stabbed, say. Bit of direct pressure & elevation of the wound (if poss) could make the difference between life and death till the ambulance comes. Just dont sue me if you get a bruise from the pressure alright
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06 March 2008, 12:16 PM
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I will ask when I'm in there next mate, but as they arent family either, dont think they'd be told.
Would still be good to get a medical opinion here of what might have happened given the symptoms- it was half my reason for posting.
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Would still be good to get a medical opinion here of what might have happened given the symptoms- it was half my reason for posting.
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