SirFozzalot

So what is it then?

It certainly reads that way.

SirFozzalot

Why not? The title of that chart says for cars registered after 1 March 2001

Mitchy260

The way i see it..

An impreza (244g/km) bought in 2008 will have a G band because greater than 225 and the tax will be £400.
In 2009 this will then become an L band and go upto £415

If you have an Sti (257g/km) you will have a jump from £400 upto £440 because it will get placed in band M.

Any car bought in 2009, will have the A-M coding structure to begin with but will have a bigger 1st year tax.

Thats the way i read that chart anyway

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

is there an emissions chart anywhere? so we can see how much co2 a car of a certain year is producing.I can't find one anywhere

zip106

It makes it a bit of a mockery really when my 2.5 Di-D 4x4 double-cab pick-up (2006) only costs £120 a year to tax.
Had a look on my V5 and there's no CO2 figures, so it must be cheap because it's a Euro4 commercial vehicle.
But it's still a high polluting 4x4 that the Government really hate.
Doesn't make sense

I'm not complaining of course

Paul3446

How refreshing to see a government policy that's so simple for us all to understand!

SirFozzalot

I found this one.

VCAcarfueldata.org.uk - Database Search

It only seems to go from 2006 with scoobs though.

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

cheers Foz but i was more interested in 2004-2005 cars both WRX and STi does anyone know off hand what the figures for these cars are?

SirFozzalot

Yeah I was interested in the earlier cars too (2003 for me), but thats the only one I can find so far!

I think it's because current tax only applies to cars from 23rd March 2006 at present.

SirFozzalot

Try this one

CO2 Emissions Data

265 for mine!

Snazy

Marque: SUBARU
Range: IMPREZA
Fuel: PETROL
Transmission: MANUAL
Doorplan: 4 SAL
Trim: WRX
Model Introduction Date: 2006-08
Engine (cc): 2457

Level (g/km): 244


lol hardly gonna be cheap now eh

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iTrader: (41)

So does this mean that in 2009/10 pre 23/03/06 cars get the £440 tax as well as post 23/03/06 cars ? Certainly looks that way. Glad I bought my tax at £300 today.

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

Better but it only lists UK cars,im after a figure for a 2005 Spec C as i think 325 is completely wrong

Devildog

Don't see why not Pete - the pre 3/06 concession does not appear to apply to the 2009/10 rates.

Devildog

It does look that way.

Bought 6 months tax last year to make sure I hit the £300 a year before the tax hike to £400 in April. 251 for me - Diesel shogun in the rural highlands. Somehow a toyota prius really wasn't going to hack it where I now live

****ing useless ****** **** tosser smarmy arsehole labour MP's. I believe one of the opposition quipped that Brown's ventriloquists skills were first rate. I bet Darling enjoyed having Brown's hand up his ****....

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iTrader: (41)

Thats was good thinking ahead dude I wasn't that forward thinking but I bought mine online today for £300, went through all ok

Why we can't pay at the pump for what we use is beyond me. I do 1k miles a year which is less CO2 than someone in a focus doing 10k a year

It's all bollox, no other way to describe it

Ringpeas

In a few years time, a lot of old petrol cars will cost as much to tax as they are worth. Loads will get scrapped and many more people will opt for diesels.
(loads of VAT from car sales there)

Will there be enough derv to keep the price steady(ish) or will the price of this shoot up as people switch?

Suresh

Agreed.
A VW and BMW have done with great effect already!
Subaru are shocking in this respect and to spend some R&D Yen on making their engines less wasteful!

unclebuck

Surely 'good thinking ahead' would have been to have got these socialist muthaf8ckers out of office at the last general election.

How many hundreds of thousands must be regretting their choice now?

Klaatu

Actually, no it won't. All it'll do is force mfgs to introduce more diesel optioins. Look at the latest BMW range.

Klaatu

Well, no actually. BMW just put diesel engines in their range and called it "Efficient Dynamics", that's BS IMO. VW have had diesel options for decades, but they're not as economoical as you think.

Diesel engines require significantly more thourough and frequent servicing than petrol engines. There is still the emission of PM10 particulates, rather than Co2, which are hugely poisonous to humans.

GaryK

But who is actually going to buy a new scoob now anyway? They looked $hite in the photos, saw one for real for the first time the other day and just thought 'O my god' it looks about as appealing as a reliant robin. Ive had 3 scoobs but looking at them now, well the words plot and lost the come to mind.

AndyC_772

iTrader: (2)

Efficient Dynamics is nothing to do with the car having a diesel engine, it's a comprehensive package of energy saving measures aimed at reducing the amount of engine power used to drive ancillaries.

My 330D requires an oil and filter change after about every 18,000 miles, and a full service every 36,000 miles. Hardly 'frequent'.

speedking

The SMMT site only goes from 2006. And states that tyre size can affect emissions

SimonD

So what rate do pre 2001 cars attract under the new scheme?

anc-sti

Use this

Road tax - Parker's

Devildog

Quite correct UB. It was more "damage mitigation".

Of course, the great unwashed who voted in these tossers probably don't bother paying road tax on their highly polluting old shed's anyway..

And by polluting I mean all the real pollutants, not Co2.....

PeteBrant

Hear George Osborne last night? He is commited to Showroom tax (indeed the Tories proposed it in September 2007)

To be honest I don't think it matter who you vote in, in this regard, all three main parties are committed to targetting drivers of higher polluting cars.

SirFozzalot

So it looks like alot of people will be selling their current cars and going for older (pre-2001) cars to swerve the road tax hike.

Surely the older cars are more polluting than the modern ones?

PeteBrant

Not necessarily, in terms of CO2 emissions anyway. But they certainly could be.

But basically you can't penalise someone for buying a car in, say, 1998, in 2008 - By that I mean that in 1998 you weren't armed with the knowledge that you were making a willing choice to pay a higher rate of road tax - hence 2001 cars are seperated into 1500 at a cheaper rate and over 1500 at the standard rate.

I suppose they get away with it for 2006 cars and after because at that point you have made a conscious decision to pay the higher rate.