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Old 15 March 2008, 09:28 AM
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Few things to add.

glad she has been found and i hope she is OK

re protection order, most likely to be becasue the stepfather is related to the scumbag who had her so they will want the stepfather seperated from Shannon.

I hope the parents had nothning to do with this as it is hard to imagine how anybody could do so.
If they are involved then 20 years inside would seem about fair.

I quite like the genetic father, seems genuine, maybe not the smartest bloke in the world but a good guy.

Re the celebrations, watching sky this morning, the fireworks, throwing the leaflets around and dancing on them and partying the night away fuelled with whitelightening ( ihave the feeling most friday nights might look something like that, not exactly like the street parties of old) - i suppose thats how some celebrate. I do wonder if they will be clearing up the mess first thing today.

Re the chap who had her, news sems to be leaking out, he changed his name some time back and was known to the police - i wonder what for, i am sure we will find out.
Shannon hidden in a dwawer in a divan type bed and the chap found in the other drawer of the bed after neighbours reported hearing a childs footsteps in the flat above - thank god for that.

I am sure the facts will come out in the fullness of time and i am sure there will be loads of speculation - especially on SN
Old 15 March 2008, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Clarebabes
Did you see all the chavs drinking, dancing and smoking in the street. Horrible, just horrible....

I thought I had switched on the wrong channell and was watching shameless.
Old 15 March 2008, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Bodgit
I thought I had switched on the wrong channell and was watching shameless.
good comparison, maybe they watch shameless and think it is a documentary
Old 15 March 2008, 12:05 PM
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I am very glad she has been found, but a bit confused about the entire situation.

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Old 15 March 2008, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood



I quite like the genetic father, seems genuine, maybe not the smartest bloke in the world but a good guy.
Remember though Ian Huntley seemed a nice helpful guy as well. Turned out a little different though.

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Old 16 March 2008, 02:26 PM
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Theres something about the mother I really do not like, besides being a fat lazy b'stad who's as workshy as they come and good at sh1tting kids out.....something is strange.....is it normal protocol for the police to let you talk to your kid through a glass panel after being abducted?
Old 16 March 2008, 05:17 PM
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Hmmm explaining and justifying.
Firstly there is no justifying the horrors that some children have inflicted upon them.
With regards to being a peadophile - whilst I agree that you don't just wake up on your 30th birthday and think "oh I want to abuse kids" - its something thats with you from a very young age - just as being gay/lesbian/bisexual.

If, however, it were a "gene" ffs - lets locate the gene, scan kids when their born and remove it! They can detect down syndrome and other chromological diseases - peadophillia is just a good a reason to terminate a pregnancy!!

And yes, whilst there are men (mainly) out there who have these disgusting thoughts and desires, they have to find a "release" for them somewhere don't they!

My original point though was that, because you are on a sec register - there are two VERY different ends - on one end, the man whose sexually abused his kids - on the other, the 18 year old boy who gets trashed at a club, screws a girl, to later find out she was only 14. VERY different.
Old 17 March 2008, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyBFC
Theres something about the mother I really do not like, besides being a fat lazy b'stad who's as workshy as they come and good at sh1tting kids out.....something is strange.....is it normal protocol for the police to let you talk to your kid through a glass panel after being abducted?
I thought that was a bit strange... according to reports '
Karen, who has been allowed only a brief meeting with her daughter since she was found, said she understood why they could not be immediately reunited.'


Shannon is to be asked today if she wants to go home....


If you read through all the papers it would seem there are a fair few children belonging to one or other of her mother/mothers boyfriend/ immediate family who are in care or are living with their other parent .... strange
Old 17 March 2008, 09:45 AM
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All very odd

Have to say though,criticism of the police seems uncredibly unfair.Seems they are damned if they find someone and damned when they don't.

For once I will actually say.....well done chaps/chapesses
Old 17 March 2008, 09:49 AM
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Says in the times, that she was put in this emegency custody to stop "other people" trying to influence what she tells the police
Old 17 March 2008, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
Says in the times, that she was put in this emegency custody to stop "other people" trying to influence what she tells the police
Not suprised, her stepfather is related to the chap who was hiding her and God knows what the true story is anyway.
Old 17 March 2008, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by j4ckos mate
Says in the times, that she was put in this emegency custody to stop "other people" trying to influence what she tells the police
that seems very likely, they need to tread very carefully and find out exactly what happened, they can't do that once she's been influenced by family and the media.
Old 17 March 2008, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pwhittle
that seems very likely, they need to tread very carefully and find out exactly what happened, they can't do that once she's been influenced by family and the media.
Pretty sure it will not be long before OK or tv quick is has an 'exclusive' from one of the family cashing in.
Old 17 March 2008, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Pretty sure it will not be long before OK or tv quick is has an 'exclusive' from one of the family cashing in.
It's already started The ex-wife of the abductor has done a piece for The news of The World Shannon man's vile sex secrets | News | News of the World

What's interesting is the bit at the end where it states that of her six children four of them are living with their two different fathers and the two she had with the abductor are in care having already been taken from her.

It's seems a strange world that some of these people live in, thank God I wasn't born into it!
Old 17 March 2008, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoobychick
It's already started The ex-wife of the abductor has done a piece for The news of The World Shannon man's vile sex secrets | News | News of the World

What's interesting is the bit at the end where it states that of her six children four of them are living with their two different fathers and the two she had with the abductor are in care having already been taken from her.

It's seems a strange world that some of these people live in, thank God I wasn't born into it!
Yes, I agree, so glad I wasn't born to people like that!

If this woman knew he was related to Shannon, why didn't she say something?
Old 17 March 2008, 01:26 PM
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It has been indicated that the stepfather was ill treating her and the other girls too and maybe she just did not want to live at her home any more. Strange that she should be in care otherwise too.

Les
Old 17 March 2008, 01:33 PM
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I don't think mum would feature on University Challenge. Apparently she describes 2 of her children, of different ages, as "Twins" because they had the same father
Old 17 March 2008, 02:56 PM
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to be honest,its prob been said already but not reading 8 pages,i think theres an innocent enough reason she was with the "abductor"

i think it will all come out, she was unhappy at home and this was a way out, the blokes probably a bit simple and went along with it not realising the anguish or trouble the getaway would cause him
Old 20 March 2008, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Nothing like a group of angry parents to jump to conclusions.

Remember years ago when the Daily Express were printing photo's of known sex offenders? Bloke round here was nearly killed after the beating he took. Was he a sex offender? No. Someone reckoned he looked like him so that was good enough.
There was also the case of the paediatrician who had trouble - some local thickos thought that was the same as a paedophile!

Both words are sometimes spelt without the first "a".
Old 20 March 2008, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nooobyscoooby
There was also the case of the paediatrician who had trouble - some local thickos thought that was the same as a paedophile!

Both words are sometimes spelt without the first "a".
i wonder if paedophiles have business cards, advertising, promotional material saying 'paedophile' - It is hardly something they advertise, look in yellow pages perhaps. shocking but not suprising with the standard of education.

I wonder how the thicko's found this person.

It is a tough one, paedo's are sometimes placed back into the community somettime near where they offended - the poice notifdy the parents of the children who where offended but not the other parents to advise them that this person is living within their community.
Even if a paedo is placed back into a unknown community, is it right parents should not be aware of the potential danger to thier children.

Human rights of the paedophile again, yes.
Will it drive them underground, maybe, in which case maybe they should not be let out in the first place or tagged, mabe an implanted device so they can be tracked at all times.

not an easy one but surely the right of the children should be first and foremost!
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