chrisp

LOL @ the whole thread

I have mates with bikes ZZR's, dukes, cbrs etc yep they are quick but I can carry 4 passengers, have a heater, cd player, 4 wheel drive and a electric wing mirrors . Big bonus it doesnt take me 20 minutes to get changed to drive the car .

chrisp

Another well taken corner , must be the AWD

Tiggs

chrisp,

takes fighter pilots even longet to get ready and some of them cant even have a pillion!

whats your point, you think Top Gun would have been just as cool if it was about you swanning about with a full load of mates, cd on while showing off your wing mirrors?

Tiggs

ps- my living room seats 10 but its boring and slow so i'll not enter it into the conversation, please do likewise

P1Fanatic

LOL Tiggs! No but it would never have been as good if they didnt have the funky sountrack - still one of my fave cd's and currently on one of my MP3 cd's in the car now

Tiggs

P1- i have an ickle walkman that i strapped to my arm (just like in Iron Eagle ) so u can have cool sounds on the bike too!


"talk to me goose"
"ohhhh, maveric, you have lovley heater controls and your seats are hight adjustable"



Tiggs

chrisp

All this hostility

Tiggs I think you have lost that lovin feeling

Tiggs

what do u know- you never have made it to that "target friendly enviroment" cause you'd be to busy playing with your wing mirrors!

Tiggs

chrisp

LOL

Tiggs

chrisp,

i take it back- where would we be without someone to bring the volley ***** and net back from the beach!

RB170

Bravo M8

I don't think CraigH was confused...I think he was strapped to a rocket

I've heard he does have an aweseome Scooby though.

Mike

[Edited by RB170 - 1/27/2002 9:26:15 PM]

mutant_matt

Craig said he passed an R6 flat out.....they do about 160 and IIRC, Craig had 180 indicated on the speedo when he went past the bike....

Matt

Jamesipoos

Now, this is something I actually know quite a lot about, 'cos we've tested it. For the record, I have an R1, and at the time we were testing this, I also had a CBR600 and a Type-R Version IV STI. Oh, and I won a few club level bike races as well.... ;-)

In a straight line, R1 vs. Scooby, there's no comparison - the R1 ****s off big stylee - whoever was quoting power/weight figures, you need to unstrap the lead off the pillion - my R1 has 140.4bhp
at the wheel, and weights 172kg dry.

A CBR600 on the other hand was a different story - had a fantastic
straight line drag against one, where the CBR pulled away up to a
ton, and then I crawled back past at 125ish - very interesting. There was virtually nothing in it. FWIW, the same thing against a stock R6 resulted in the R6 just managing to keep ahead - I think
the rider got the first two gears down fairly well though - I overtook him at one point at 100mph, and he was still on the back wheel... ;-)

So, a type R has a chance against 600s and the like, although I wouldn't fancy it against the new 120crankbhp suzukis etc. but a normal scooby (i.e. not one with 308bhp, c/ratio gearing etc.) wouldn't have a chance. This was in the dry - in the damp, the bike
really wouldn't have a chance, unless you had someone with the right tyres, nice and hot, who knew how to ride. And I don't just
mean a fast road rider, or a track day hero - I mean someone who's happy to give it WFO in the damp - not something many people will do on the road, IYKWIM.

FWIW, if you've never driven a hot impreza, just a normal one, they're unbelievably good - the normal ones are "Ooh, wow, that's *fast*!" - the hot ones are "Wwuuggggghhh.....faaaaaccccckin' 'ell..."

If you've never been on an R1, it makes a Scooby feel slow (0-100 in 4.5 seconds) All for 8000 of your earth pounds, brand new. Or, you could buy a Hayabusa...175bhp in 200kg? :-)

Anyway, toodle pip, I've got to go and pick up my ex-BSB RSV Mille for my first test of the year at Mallory on Wed..... :-)))


James.

Jamesipoos

>i'd be interested to see times for bikes round tracks in the wet compared to scoobs- i reckon u might be surprised

<chortle> A 4WD car will **** all over a bike from a great height
in the wet - I've been there and tried both at Snetterton. You simply can't get the power down on a bike, even using full wets, (KR244/444s). INcidentally, if any bike riders out there have never used wets, then you're missing a great laugh - about the same grip in pissing rain as standard road tyres in the dry...

Then again, standard road tyre scare the ******* out of me..... ;-)

And, an R1 at Snett is simply cheating...they all vanish down the bloody Revett Straight.

J.

Tiggs

j,

so what time did u get round snett in wets?

P1Fanatic

I know that name. James - your Si Morleys racing pal in team mojo? I work with Si and came and saw you both racing down at Brands last year. I take it he got the white sti type-r from you then?

Simon.

fast bloke

Feel the urge to add my tuppenf worf and agree with all the people who have bikes and scoobs. Any 750 and bigger will **** off. ZX6R will also **** off. R6, GSXR6 and CBR600 are not (IMHO) as quick as the ZX6R at higher speeds. I think it is down to fairings, elbows and knees etc. Cars will be quicker through wet slow corners. By slow I mean anything less than 40 MPH. For the record, the only three points I have ever recieved were for going round a wet roundabout at 58MPH, so that should give you an idea of what a 40 MPH corner looks like. The reasons I prefer a scoob have already been outlined above, but an aversion to injury and death must be the biggest one.

p.s. P1Fanatic - yeah right - we believe you

P1Fanatic

Thats so nice of you.

Nick L

I had a briliant race......errrmmmm I mean I got p****d all over by a bike on the way to Junc 10 M1 not so long ago.
As I leathered it as hard as I could off the roundabout (at about 50) all the way to 110 (allegedly) he was pulling away like billio.................Oh and by the way he was on his back wheel. Damned Impressive.

Jolly Green Monster 2

Been away from this thread all weekend and return today.. funny reading..

Funny but you can tell everyone that has never ridden a bike, or who has never _really_ ridden a bike...

My Blade is a particularly slow one but you only have to say 180kgs and 123bhp at the wheel.... whats that 6.6 times less weight and half the power... the equivilant would be a 1200kg Scooby with 812bhp at the wheels... hummmm..... my figures might be slightly out but you catch my drift.

Even I opennly admit I chicken out way before the bikes limits but still nothing keeps up, and definitly I know myself in my own Scooby could NOT keep up..

But like I think I said before it is a lot easier to go quick in a car... but that is the rider/driver comparison...

Get a racer on a bike and a rally driver in an Evo/Scoob and the bike rider would be at the bar and on his second pint by the time the rally driver arrived!

P1Fanatic

Not on a nice muddy stage of the Rally of Great Britain they wouldnt.

No one in their right mind can honestly say a scoob is faster than a bike in anything other than extremely wet/low grip situations. The facts speak for themselves. The point most people were trying to put across was that going fast is not the only factor they consider.

fast bloke

OK - So scoobs are faster than bikes in wet/low traction/twistys.

Anyone for Motocross?

P1Fanatic

LOL - lets face it there are things that each vehicle is better equipped for.

Hehe how about Thrust 2 classed as a car IIRC

Out of curiosity - when it comes to drag racers - which are faster - bikes or cars? Surely the cars can keep the extreme power down on the track due to their weight and huge tyres but Im not so sure?

Mike Tuckwood

I always love these threads.

Bikes are just different. Remeber talking about "the Scooby smile" Imagine that every time you **** your leg over the bike. It's like the scooby fun on a permanant live feed. Exhilieration picks up where the fastest scooby leaves off.

The perfromance in real terms is irrelevant, most bikers (myself included) only come out when conditions permit.... and why shouldn't we.

Scoob's are great, bikes really are the icing on that cake.

Oi Birdy, get your Mille R down here, and leave it with me a few weeks?

[Edited by Mike Tuckwood - 1/28/2002 11:56:47 AM]

Gixerman

Damn...only just seen this thread(Been in Amsterdam for 3 day stag w/end...Didn't want to go, peer pressure you understand)

Bikes v Scoobies...They're just two different ways to spell FUN!!!!!

Bit more research is needed me thinks, so do what some friends & I do........Strap your bike to a trailor, hook it up to your Scoob then bugger off down to the 'Ring' for a long weekend and research your heart out!!!!!!

At the end of the day both are suited to different conditions, so just get one of each and have fun all year round.

For all the bikers out there our site www.roadracers.co.uk (people seem to quite like it?)is worth a look.

Keep it upright....


Tony(Chippy)

ps did I say I love my STi 5 Type-R and Gixer 750y track bike,no, well I do!!!!

mutant_matt

Mike,

What *is* it with your obsession with the Mille-R???

Matt

dharbige

Just my two pence worth...

Past my Group A test in August last year, and bought a Fazer 600 as my first 'real' bike.

Nothing, not even the Scoob, compares with the grin factor from riding the bike. I love it so much that I'm happy to get dressed up every morning in my wet weather gear for the 3 mile trip to the station.

Done it every day - sun, fog, rain, even frost - I won't give up that 10 mins of fun until the roads are covered in ice and snow.

I don't care if it's faster than my scoob, or anybody else's for that matter. It's fast enough to scare the s#1t out of me, and that's fast enough.

David H.

Mike Tuckwood

Matt. B~lls.
Don't start me off..... I'll be in tears again.

ARRON BIRD

Jamsipoos????
I dont remember seeing a Mille in BSB last year mate????