Employee Question - Equal Pay,Same Job
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A word of warning about 'experience' ........ I have a member of staff who proudly says to me that he has 'got 40 years experience'.
I have to remind him, again and again, that what he actually has is '5 years experience, 8 times!!'
Experience is knowledge gained through pushing yourself constantly - not sitting in the comfort zone and never stretching yourself.
Therefore I take 'years of service' with a pinch of salt - what I want to see is true Experience!
I have to remind him, again and again, that what he actually has is '5 years experience, 8 times!!'
Experience is knowledge gained through pushing yourself constantly - not sitting in the comfort zone and never stretching yourself.
Therefore I take 'years of service' with a pinch of salt - what I want to see is true Experience!
#32
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I think best bet is just to ask the boss about a pay parity at some point in the future, and get onto CAB aswell just to ask if there is such a rule/law that can be enforced.
Yes its only £2k and i am inexperienced in comparison so why should i bother, but as a scotsman i'm as tight as they come and if that extra £2k is due to me then i'll be fighting for it
I think best bet is just to ask the boss about a pay parity at some point in the future, and get onto CAB aswell just to ask if there is such a rule/law that can be enforced.
Yes its only £2k and i am inexperienced in comparison so why should i bother, but as a scotsman i'm as tight as they come and if that extra £2k is due to me then i'll be fighting for it
#33
Harsh but fair. Once you get a name as a trouble-maker then your days are numbered!
#34
I've got an appointment with my boss at 8 regarding this, so all should be clear about half an hour later.
Smaller employers may get round this by using a no talking about salary policy but this is a huge worldwide company that has to do things by the book.
#35
The people who work for me are all on different wages. It depends on what you negotiate when you join. I occasionally have to do a 'market adjustment' to ensure that current employees are not too far from hiring new people.
Of course you can ask for a payrise above inflation based on your skill at the job and how valuable you have become, but I wouldn't cite the other person's wage as a reason.
Steve
Of course you can ask for a payrise above inflation based on your skill at the job and how valuable you have become, but I wouldn't cite the other person's wage as a reason.
Steve
#36
Well good news, well sort of anyway
My boss hasn't fired me, he was very reasonable and told me i should have received details regarding the pay structure when i initially joined the company. It appears the HR dept are at fault as they never sent the details down to me hence the confusion.
I joined last March on exactly the same salary as engineer 2, however because i was new and in a probationary 6mths period i wasn't enitled to the 2007 inflation increase deal that we got in May 07. Our department had just sorted out a 5yr pay increase deal weeks before i joined the company (5%-4%-3%-2%-3.5%)
Basically i'll be getting the 4% inflation increase this year and a pay parity with eng 2 at 30mths service.
It appears the only benefit you get with experience in my job role is 1 extra leave day per every 2 yrs served and increases in OT rates per every 5yrs served.
Oh well, 18mths to go then
My boss hasn't fired me, he was very reasonable and told me i should have received details regarding the pay structure when i initially joined the company. It appears the HR dept are at fault as they never sent the details down to me hence the confusion.
I joined last March on exactly the same salary as engineer 2, however because i was new and in a probationary 6mths period i wasn't enitled to the 2007 inflation increase deal that we got in May 07. Our department had just sorted out a 5yr pay increase deal weeks before i joined the company (5%-4%-3%-2%-3.5%)
Basically i'll be getting the 4% inflation increase this year and a pay parity with eng 2 at 30mths service.
It appears the only benefit you get with experience in my job role is 1 extra leave day per every 2 yrs served and increases in OT rates per every 5yrs served.
Oh well, 18mths to go then
#38
Make yourself indespensible, learn as much as you can, be helpful at all times and then respectfully ask for an uplift without mention of your colleagues salary, dont go in looking for an argument, no threats to leave etc.
My approach is, ask once, ask twice then hand your notice in.
My approach is, ask once, ask twice then hand your notice in.
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