Neighbours complaining about my exhaust !
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change the ecu for one that can run antilag then pop some flames out at the tw#ts at 5 in the morning it will be just like a shot gun wake up call for the tw#ts lol
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Spoke to my next door neighbour yesterday who is in his 80's. He said he didn't think it was a problem and said he would speak to everyone else to try and find out who it was with the problem.
He came back to me and said not one of our immediate neighbours has a problem with the car.
Also,it turns out this guys son works for our local council and asked him to pop round and speak to me.
He told me that if none of our immediate neighbours has a complaint about my car then the council won't do anything about it even if someone does complain as it must be someone from further away from us !
He came back to me and said not one of our immediate neighbours has a problem with the car.
Also,it turns out this guys son works for our local council and asked him to pop round and speak to me.
He told me that if none of our immediate neighbours has a complaint about my car then the council won't do anything about it even if someone does complain as it must be someone from further away from us !
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Spoke to my next door neighbour yesterday who is in his 80's. He said he didn't think it was a problem and said he would speak to everyone else to try and find out who it was with the problem.
He came back to me and said not one of our immediate neighbours has a problem with the car.
Also,it turns out this guys son works for our local council and asked him to pop round and speak to me.
He told me that if none of our immediate neighbours has a complaint about my car then the council won't do anything about it even if someone does complain as it must be someone from further away from us !
He came back to me and said not one of our immediate neighbours has a problem with the car.
Also,it turns out this guys son works for our local council and asked him to pop round and speak to me.
He told me that if none of our immediate neighbours has a complaint about my car then the council won't do anything about it even if someone does complain as it must be someone from further away from us !
Buy your neighbour a bottle of booze for this troubles!
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Guy next door to me has a 95 plate Wrx and he starts his moter around 10min before my alarm goes and the sound does make me smile. Then its my turn 30 mins later to start mine.
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My mr2 had just a stright through back box on it... that was so lound the MOT tester would not pass it. Never had any compaints for the 4 months before the MOT though. Now i got the scoob noone complains, even though i can hear it rumbling from the 3rd floor of our house
I live in an area with a lot of houses but everyone just gets on with it and does not compane. I leave at 6:50am too
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I posted this comment on page 2 of this thread and everybody completely ignored it - so lets try again shall we.. ![Wink](images/smilies/wink.gif)
If you want to cure your problem with a loud exhaust and you don't want to permanently restrict it with a bung then fit one of these:-
An Apexi ECV [Exhaust Control Valve].
The valve is operated by a pull switch inside the cabin, the valve itself is fitted between two joins in the main exhaust system and contains a circular disk that is either partly closed or fully open [when it is side on to the flow of exhaust gas], it also comes in various sizes to suit most applications.
N.B. Never run the car on boost with the value closed though, it should only be driven with whilst on the on position using minimal throttle.
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If you want to cure your problem with a loud exhaust and you don't want to permanently restrict it with a bung then fit one of these:-
An Apexi ECV [Exhaust Control Valve].
The valve is operated by a pull switch inside the cabin, the valve itself is fitted between two joins in the main exhaust system and contains a circular disk that is either partly closed or fully open [when it is side on to the flow of exhaust gas], it also comes in various sizes to suit most applications.
N.B. Never run the car on boost with the value closed though, it should only be driven with whilst on the on position using minimal throttle.
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I had some problems with my neighbours a little while back. I do shift work but whilst my misses was still off on maternity I used her car most of the time for the earlier and later shifts.
It was only when I left my car outside my garage for 30mins that someone had place gaffer tape across the exit pipe. A little strange I thought so out I went.
When I got back my misses told me that she heard two of the neighbours moaning about the noise level of the exhaust.
With that I wrote a letter to everyone of my neighbours to say sorry for any noise etc. Not a problem after that.
That had more of a problem with one of my other neighbours who owns a RS Turbo because he left it running and had to keep reeving it before it conked out on him. I guess he didn't help matters.
I use the car everyday now the doris is back at work. I don't warm up the car I simple turn on, shut the garage and pull away during this I turn the car off etc. I don't exceed of 2.5k and maily use the clutch which in itself is wrong but hey.
I have RCM Team Ice system btw for example. I have not idea what dB is unless someone can answer that for me?
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It was only when I left my car outside my garage for 30mins that someone had place gaffer tape across the exit pipe. A little strange I thought so out I went.
When I got back my misses told me that she heard two of the neighbours moaning about the noise level of the exhaust.
With that I wrote a letter to everyone of my neighbours to say sorry for any noise etc. Not a problem after that.
That had more of a problem with one of my other neighbours who owns a RS Turbo because he left it running and had to keep reeving it before it conked out on him. I guess he didn't help matters.
I use the car everyday now the doris is back at work. I don't warm up the car I simple turn on, shut the garage and pull away during this I turn the car off etc. I don't exceed of 2.5k and maily use the clutch which in itself is wrong but hey.
I have RCM Team Ice system btw for example. I have not idea what dB is unless someone can answer that for me?
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I was so glad when I bought my Type R a couple of weeks back that it was so quiet at idle. Being my first Scoob, I was very suprised too...
...but it does have the standard STI exhaust on it, and I don't mind sacrificing some BHP for any hassle in this crazy day and age with all the legislation etc.
Went through the same sort of hassle as you over 5 years ago when I had a straight thru on my Pulsar GTI-R. Lived at my parents then and didn't have much to fear in the way of vandalism etc...but now living somewhere not quite as nice, I wouldn't want to worry about some gutless individual doing something nasty to my car and me tearing my hair out trying to find out who done what etc...
...because I know the authorities would NEVER be on my side being a performance car owner!
Glad it looks like you've sorted it though.
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...but it does have the standard STI exhaust on it, and I don't mind sacrificing some BHP for any hassle in this crazy day and age with all the legislation etc.
Went through the same sort of hassle as you over 5 years ago when I had a straight thru on my Pulsar GTI-R. Lived at my parents then and didn't have much to fear in the way of vandalism etc...but now living somewhere not quite as nice, I wouldn't want to worry about some gutless individual doing something nasty to my car and me tearing my hair out trying to find out who done what etc...
...because I know the authorities would NEVER be on my side being a performance car owner!
Glad it looks like you've sorted it though.
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Phew finally finished reading all the threads .... I used to have a different exhaust system on mine (4.5" back box) and bung and hated changing the bung even though it was quick to do. The stopping the car, changing starting the car, etc. So I put a new system on (not due to any complaints all my neighbours are fine, in each others house, have a prison warden, policeman, etc in my cul de sac of about 12 houses). So I personally wouldn't go down the bung route. I would do the note route first. If no one comes forward continue as before. I would add a bit more in the note to the effect " I have checked the legal side and realise that this evidence would need to be produced in court..... blah, blah... and that the council/police may need to talk with you, blah, blah" If the estate is 'rough' then that may be enough to put a dodgy person off.
If the person is genuine I think your note will let them feel at ease and that you are a reasonable fellow. Lets face it if its not a nice estate and you drive a subaru maybe they think your a drug dealer and so don't want to confront you.
So to recap, dont buy the bung (it will inconvience you, lower your bhp and maybe because its just for some tw*T they will probably complain some more). 2nd send that nice note as per ns04 and 3rd come back and tell us what happened (we have popcorn waiting)!!!
If the person is genuine I think your note will let them feel at ease and that you are a reasonable fellow. Lets face it if its not a nice estate and you drive a subaru maybe they think your a drug dealer and so don't want to confront you.
So to recap, dont buy the bung (it will inconvience you, lower your bhp and maybe because its just for some tw*T they will probably complain some more). 2nd send that nice note as per ns04 and 3rd come back and tell us what happened (we have popcorn waiting)!!!
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Be careful how you contest this one, a friend of mine has a bridgeported rx7 which is aggressively loud (justifiably), which is all well and good for the majority of jap enthusiasts etc but when neighbours complained and he ignored their pleas the police eventually visited. The car is MOT'd, taxed, insured etc but they were typically awkward and said they could have VOSA impound the car, oh not sure about those tints, we've seen this before etc and it just caused no end of grief which is the last thing you would want.
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O dear, got a 3" full decat to fit to my MY93 WRX at the weekend
could be going down the same road but i am of the GFY class of 1967 so we'll just have to wait an see.
I have read the entire thread and cant believe that nobody has actually bothered to research the 'road legal' decibel output for a vehicle exhaust
I will have a trawl now and see what pops up
Well chuffed that you seem to have it all sorted now mate and top marks for sticking to your guns
As said in many of the post residential disputes can be the worse, desperate people can take desperate measures
I'll post up the so called 'legal limits' if i can find anything solid.
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I have read the entire thread and cant believe that nobody has actually bothered to research the 'road legal' decibel output for a vehicle exhaust
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I will have a trawl now and see what pops up
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Well chuffed that you seem to have it all sorted now mate and top marks for sticking to your guns
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I'll post up the so called 'legal limits' if i can find anything solid.
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I'd break their flippin heads if i see them doing it for no reason....
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i live next to a school and i was coming back home at the same time the school was over.. one guy, just next to my block of flats hit ma car with a plastic bottle, when i was driving it in my flat parking,,,
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and i got down and put him in the big red bin....
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O dear, got a 3" full decat to fit to my MY93 WRX at the weekend
could be going down the same road but i am of the GFY class of 1967 so we'll just have to wait an see.
I have read the entire thread and cant believe that nobody has actually bothered to research the 'road legal' decibel output for a vehicle exhaust
I will have a trawl now and see what pops up
Well chuffed that you seem to have it all sorted now mate and top marks for sticking to your guns
As said in many of the post residential disputes can be the worse, desperate people can take desperate measures
I'll post up the so called 'legal limits' if i can find anything solid.
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I have read the entire thread and cant believe that nobody has actually bothered to research the 'road legal' decibel output for a vehicle exhaust
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I will have a trawl now and see what pops up
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Well chuffed that you seem to have it all sorted now mate and top marks for sticking to your guns
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I'll post up the so called 'legal limits' if i can find anything solid.
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Some light bed time reading for ya
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ANNEX I
PROVISIONS FOR EC TYPE-APPROVAL IN RESPECT OF THE
SOUND LEVEL OF A TYPE OF MOTOR VEHICLE
2.1.1. Vehicles intended for the carriage of passengers,
and comprising not more than nine seats including
the driver's seat
74dB
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http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...0070705:EN:PDF
So it looks like, from this that 74dB is the max??
All we need now is a group buy on decibel meters ;-)
Also found this on PH
C&U Regulation 55 deals with noise and lays down the required limits for every different type of car. It refers extensively to the EC Directive on noise (and this obviously changes depending on the age of the vehicle) but the limits vary between about 89 dB(A) and 92dB(A). The important thing, however, is that the Directive measures noise as a "drive-by" test with the car moving and the noise meter much further away than the "static" SVA noise test. It would be practically impossible for the plod to take these measurements as you need a test track with a special surface.
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Yes very good mate, thanks for the info but could you please stop quoting yourself and using such a large font!
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Incidentally the current limit of 74 db(A) is not applicable to vehicles made before 1996, for them the limit is 82 db(A).
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Fully open = no restriction. 3mm = restriction (partial blockage and disturbance to the flow). Not very restrictive but not exactly non-restrictive, and its there all the time, whereas when a bung is removed there is no restriction. HTH.
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So your wrong.
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And as for the bung.. Do you expect the guy to pull out of his garage with the bung installed every morning and then remove it when he gets to the end of his street and then repeat that procedure when he comes home at night??
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My full decat and Blitz Nur Spec used to make the entire street vibrate if I started it in the garage ![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
When I used the car for work, sometimes a 6.30am start I'd simply push it out of the garage roll it into the road, jump in and drive straight off. Hardly any noise, problem solved. Took me maybe an extra 10-15 seconds than if I just drove the car straight out of the garagae. Was a lardy new age as well so doubled up as a good work out first thing in the morning
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When I used the car for work, sometimes a 6.30am start I'd simply push it out of the garage roll it into the road, jump in and drive straight off. Hardly any noise, problem solved. Took me maybe an extra 10-15 seconds than if I just drove the car straight out of the garagae. Was a lardy new age as well so doubled up as a good work out first thing in the morning
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I had a problem last night, when I park up at night usually a old bloke will come out and just stare at my car while the engine cools down before shutting off.
Last night when I left my car, he asked me if it was a test car. I replied no it ain't , the car just runs for some minutes to cool turbo down. He didn't understand so had to explain a bit to him. He then said I'm just sat in it messing around and I'm annoying folk. He then dissapered into his house.
If he says anything again, I will say that law states I can't leave a vehicle to its own devises when the engine is running.
But yet no one complains about my sisters 1.6 corsa which is way louder then mine.
Last night when I left my car, he asked me if it was a test car. I replied no it ain't , the car just runs for some minutes to cool turbo down. He didn't understand so had to explain a bit to him. He then said I'm just sat in it messing around and I'm annoying folk. He then dissapered into his house.
If he says anything again, I will say that law states I can't leave a vehicle to its own devises when the engine is running.
But yet no one complains about my sisters 1.6 corsa which is way louder then mine.
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O dear, got a 3" full decat to fit to my MY93 WRX at the weekend
could be going down the same road but i am of the GFY class of 1967 so we'll just have to wait an see.
I have read the entire thread and cant believe that nobody has actually bothered to research the 'road legal' decibel output for a vehicle exhaust
I will have a trawl now and see what pops up
Well chuffed that you seem to have it all sorted now mate and top marks for sticking to your guns
As said in many of the post residential disputes can be the worse, desperate people can take desperate measures
I'll post up the so called 'legal limits' if i can find anything solid.
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I have read the entire thread and cant believe that nobody has actually bothered to research the 'road legal' decibel output for a vehicle exhaust
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I will have a trawl now and see what pops up
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Well chuffed that you seem to have it all sorted now mate and top marks for sticking to your guns
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I'll post up the so called 'legal limits' if i can find anything solid.
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It s a regulation that is not enforced for the most part, but exists to give the powers that be a mechanism to deal with those who are clearly antisocial with their exhausts.
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Well,they didn't do anything against some people who were living by me and dealing drugs !
It was bleeding obvious what they were doing,standing in the street with cars coming/going all day and night.
The council said they didn't have enough evidence to do anything
To be honest,i'm not worried about it now. If something does happen.i'll worry about it then.
It was bleeding obvious what they were doing,standing in the street with cars coming/going all day and night.
The council said they didn't have enough evidence to do anything
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To be honest,i'm not worried about it now. If something does happen.i'll worry about it then.
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