Watch out for the horse box
31 March 2008, 08:09 PM
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I am no saint, but I do actually like those speed signs that flash the speed limit as you approach. I like the speed limit reminders written on the road, too, even if I disagree with them. At least they are visible.
Next time you approach a busy and unfamiliar junction, count the number of signs you are supposed to read while still negotiating the road safely. Six is quite common. How safe is that?
Speed cameras hidden in horse boxes are not the answer.
Richard.
Next time you approach a busy and unfamiliar junction, count the number of signs you are supposed to read while still negotiating the road safely. Six is quite common. How safe is that?
Speed cameras hidden in horse boxes are not the answer.
Richard.
31 March 2008, 08:42 PM
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Correct me if i,m wrong, but!
Dosent the law state that a number plate displayed, should relate to the vehicle its for?
That box has two number plates on display.
one could almost argue that it is a possible attempt to hide the original registration mark
and i thought that the numberplate lamp should illuminate the number plate,
fat chance of it doing it on the 2nd plate
Mart
Dosent the law state that a number plate displayed, should relate to the vehicle its for?
That box has two number plates on display.
one could almost argue that it is a possible attempt to hide the original registration mark
and i thought that the numberplate lamp should illuminate the number plate,
fat chance of it doing it on the 2nd plate
Mart
31 March 2008, 08:45 PM
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Well, there's a sweeping generalisation if ever I saw one 
I have driven at speeds which would see me imprisoned in this country, and as yet, have never come close to killing anyone. Yet, every day, there are people killed by drivers who probably aren't speeding. 80% of pedestrians killed are proven to have stepped voluntarily into the path of moving vehicles, 86% of pedestrians killed or seriously injured after 10pm are above the legal DD limit, 72% of pedestrians killed or injured are within 100m of a pedestrian crossing, but NOT ACTUALLY USING IT ! Can you see how we have demonised one type of road user to allow other free reign to be as irresponsible as they want, whether it's dangerous, deadly or stupid. Pedestrians and cyclists are hard to identify, and thus hard to investigate, convict and extort money from. Motorists are sitting ducks and thus take ALL the blame, regardless. When a politician comes up with a transport safety policy which includes making pedestrians, cyclists, horse-riders and ALL road users equally responsible, trained, qualified, insured and monitored, punished for misuse of the highways, they'll get my vote. But, as ALL politicians are lying, cheating, two-faced, nest-feathering hypocrites, I guess I'll have to lump it
I have driven at speeds which would see me imprisoned in this country, and as yet, have never come close to killing anyone. Yet, every day, there are people killed by drivers who probably aren't speeding. 80% of pedestrians killed are proven to have stepped voluntarily into the path of moving vehicles, 86% of pedestrians killed or seriously injured after 10pm are above the legal DD limit, 72% of pedestrians killed or injured are within 100m of a pedestrian crossing, but NOT ACTUALLY USING IT ! Can you see how we have demonised one type of road user to allow other free reign to be as irresponsible as they want, whether it's dangerous, deadly or stupid. Pedestrians and cyclists are hard to identify, and thus hard to investigate, convict and extort money from. Motorists are sitting ducks and thus take ALL the blame, regardless. When a politician comes up with a transport safety policy which includes making pedestrians, cyclists, horse-riders and ALL road users equally responsible, trained, qualified, insured and monitored, punished for misuse of the highways, they'll get my vote. But, as ALL politicians are lying, cheating, two-faced, nest-feathering hypocrites, I guess I'll have to lump it
31 March 2008, 11:14 PM
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One question.
Given that these are supposed to be for safety reasons. How is hiding the camera away inside a horse box promoting a slower speed, in presumably an accident black spot?
If they catch lots of people speeding, then the horse box approach has failed entirely.
I'm willing to bet, at least my house, that a clearly visible camera, slows down far more people, than a hidden one.
Given that these are supposed to be for safety reasons. How is hiding the camera away inside a horse box promoting a slower speed, in presumably an accident black spot?
If they catch lots of people speeding, then the horse box approach has failed entirely.
I'm willing to bet, at least my house, that a clearly visible camera, slows down far more people, than a hidden one.
! If I recognise it correctly it is one of the many long wide and uninhabited stretches with excellent visibilty between Betws Y Coed & Llanrwst.Stick yer horsebox IN Llanrwst (pref by a shop or school) and it makes FAR more sense (although less money no doubt).
D
31 March 2008, 11:37 PM
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It's getting to the point that looking for pedestrians is falling down the list of priority's due to these new ways of collecting revenue and the need to look for them.
Has the amount of people injured in accidents dropped due to improvements in car designs, or is it because more money is generated with these camera's?
If it's the later, then the NCAP tests might as well be scrapped.
Has the amount of people injured in accidents dropped due to improvements in car designs, or is it because more money is generated with these camera's?
If it's the later, then the NCAP tests might as well be scrapped.
01 April 2008, 09:20 AM
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I entirely agree with that Pete - But I think the best way of doing that is peppering schools/villages/built up areas with 20/30mph speed cameras, rather than spend resouces trying to catch people on what is obviously a stretch of road where people are liable to speed.
01 April 2008, 10:40 AM
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I agree largely with Sonic in that I find it is less wearing to just drive within the speed limits as far as possible. Its a lot cheaper and doesn't waste your licence so much either.
Having said that I do not support that man's way of thinking and his methods. I think he is pretty hypocritical anyway.
Les
Having said that I do not support that man's way of thinking and his methods. I think he is pretty hypocritical anyway.
Les
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