Chernobyl
02 April 2008, 03:32 PM
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I go quite frequently to Kiev and keep meaning to go on a "guided tour" of Chernobyl. Yes, they are offered by Tourist agencies in Kiev.
Will be going again in June and will make the effort to go and see the reactor area.
Will report on my return!
Will be going again in June and will make the effort to go and see the reactor area.
Will report on my return!
02 April 2008, 06:09 PM
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I always wondered what would happen (god forbid) if a similar event occured in modern day UK.
After the explosion in Chernobyl, people were ordered to go in and clean up. Later, voulenteers were asked for.
Those soldiers who stepped up to shovel contaminated graphite from the roof back into the hole were given something like a year off their compulsory military service for every 60 seconds they stayed up there.
What would the situation be like in todays H&S ridden, compensation culture?
After the explosion in Chernobyl, people were ordered to go in and clean up. Later, voulenteers were asked for.
Those soldiers who stepped up to shovel contaminated graphite from the roof back into the hole were given something like a year off their compulsory military service for every 60 seconds they stayed up there.
What would the situation be like in todays H&S ridden, compensation culture?
02 April 2008, 06:31 PM
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I always wondered what would happen (god forbid) if a similar event occured in modern day UK.
After the explosion in Chernobyl, people were ordered to go in and clean up. Later, voulenteers were asked for.
Those soldiers who stepped up to shovel contaminated graphite from the roof back into the hole were given something like a year off their compulsory military service for every 60 seconds they stayed up there.
What would the situation be like in todays H&S ridden, compensation culture?
After the explosion in Chernobyl, people were ordered to go in and clean up. Later, voulenteers were asked for.
Those soldiers who stepped up to shovel contaminated graphite from the roof back into the hole were given something like a year off their compulsory military service for every 60 seconds they stayed up there.
What would the situation be like in todays H&S ridden, compensation culture?
02 April 2008, 07:02 PM
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Whilst the kidofspeed site is shocking, wasn't it ousted as a "fake"?
Obviously you can't make up those types of photos, but the story about the bird was called into question at the time.
I actually use the site as a Tutorial lesson at College. It certainly shuts up any of the gobby little gits!!
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Obviously you can't make up those types of photos, but the story about the bird was called into question at the time.
I actually use the site as a Tutorial lesson at College. It certainly shuts up any of the gobby little gits!!
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02 April 2008, 07:25 PM
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02 April 2008, 07:27 PM
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Still good photos and a good site IMO, she didn't need to lie about the story and it would still have been very interesting.
02 April 2008, 07:32 PM
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I always wondered what would happen (god forbid) if a similar event occured in modern day UK.
After the explosion in Chernobyl, people were ordered to go in and clean up. Later, voulenteers were asked for.
Those soldiers who stepped up to shovel contaminated graphite from the roof back into the hole were given something like a year off their compulsory military service for every 60 seconds they stayed up there.
What would the situation be like in todays H&S ridden, compensation culture?
After the explosion in Chernobyl, people were ordered to go in and clean up. Later, voulenteers were asked for.
Those soldiers who stepped up to shovel contaminated graphite from the roof back into the hole were given something like a year off their compulsory military service for every 60 seconds they stayed up there.
What would the situation be like in todays H&S ridden, compensation culture?
that special red and white safety tape that's used at motorsport events to stop the crowd would be placed around the fire, while parliament argued over who was going to put the fire out.
meanwhile the newspapers have reported that F1 is to blame for the explosion and mclaren will be hauled into the dock.
within the following 3 weeks gordon brown will probably say something along the lines of "it was bin laden, we will sort it out soon"
at this point all the firemen have left the country, so the government decides that the polish community will be able to be trained up to tackle the raging fire.
btw its going to take the poles around 5 weeks to train up enough, to get valid driving licences so they can drive the fire truck to the fire
you can see where this is going lol
02 April 2008, 08:01 PM
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FlashEarth link. I was crap obviously, this link has been cribbed from someone else. The satellite pictures are extremely clear too.
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02 April 2008, 08:29 PM
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Largest moving manmade structure ever built required to cover the reactor whilst its dismantled.
YouTube - Chernobyl New Safe Confinement / Sarcophagus
New Safe Confinement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Following that 28 days later link. The Nat Geo article mentions the abundance of life in the area. Some older people have even gone back as they missed their home.
They were moved to nearby town and given compensation. They were outcasts and disliked as they had been given money and homes whereas the locals got nothing.
I really would like to go.
YouTube - Chernobyl New Safe Confinement / Sarcophagus
New Safe Confinement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Following that 28 days later link. The Nat Geo article mentions the abundance of life in the area. Some older people have even gone back as they missed their home.
They were moved to nearby town and given compensation. They were outcasts and disliked as they had been given money and homes whereas the locals got nothing.
I really would like to go.
02 April 2008, 08:37 PM
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So how do you get there and arrange a tour?
How far is it from the UK?
Drive there and back for charity? seriously I would do it
Might need a new camera though
How far is it from the UK?
Drive there and back for charity? seriously I would do it
Might need a new camera though
02 April 2008, 11:29 PM
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Anyone remeber the old joke that went round ?
"Why must you never wear Russian underpants"
"Cos, Chernobyl fallout"
Edd, yes I do though not very often and not very well !
Might get a copy of Stalker.
I find the whole thing fascinating (and obviously very girm), I suspect the Chernobyl disaster played a big part in the fall of the Soviet Union, I work for a company involved in the Nuclear industry and am an advocate of nuclear power, it is quite scary to think about but then so is having no power when the oil,gas and coal runs out, the government has made a big statement about its commitment to a new nuclear programme, my company is looking to recruit a lot of qualified staff, basically the guys that did the last lot have all retired now so if you are stuck for a career move may I recommend a Physics degree as if you go the nuclear way you wont be short of a job.
The can be operated safely, current technology and procedures are a million miles away from Cold War Era soviet stuff.
"Why must you never wear Russian underpants"
"Cos, Chernobyl fallout"
Edd, yes I do though not very often and not very well !
Might get a copy of Stalker.
I find the whole thing fascinating (and obviously very girm), I suspect the Chernobyl disaster played a big part in the fall of the Soviet Union, I work for a company involved in the Nuclear industry and am an advocate of nuclear power, it is quite scary to think about but then so is having no power when the oil,gas and coal runs out, the government has made a big statement about its commitment to a new nuclear programme, my company is looking to recruit a lot of qualified staff, basically the guys that did the last lot have all retired now so if you are stuck for a career move may I recommend a Physics degree as if you go the nuclear way you wont be short of a job.
The can be operated safely, current technology and procedures are a million miles away from Cold War Era soviet stuff.
02 April 2008, 11:56 PM
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03 April 2008, 12:06 AM
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World energy resources and consumption - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"These figures may be too optimistic. Energy Watch Group reports show that we already cannot supply the demand for oil[34] and that uranium resources will be exhausted within 70 years. [35]"
If all power sources were replaced with nuclear, that 70 year figure will be halved, maybe more. Although I don't find all the info on this site to be accurate, the 35 year figure is supported by other sources I have read.
PS. Australia has the largest source of Uranium.
"These figures may be too optimistic. Energy Watch Group reports show that we already cannot supply the demand for oil[34] and that uranium resources will be exhausted within 70 years. [35]"
If all power sources were replaced with nuclear, that 70 year figure will be halved, maybe more. Although I don't find all the info on this site to be accurate, the 35 year figure is supported by other sources I have read.
PS. Australia has the largest source of Uranium.
03 April 2008, 12:30 AM
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my apologies, I read there was 70 years of currently known about and economically recoverable uranium. obv there's possibly a lot of it about not yet known about as it's currently not viable to recover it.
breeder reactors will be used long term that are much more efficient.
also: Uranium supply
breeder reactors will be used long term that are much more efficient.
also: Uranium supply
03 April 2008, 03:38 AM
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my apologies, I read there was 70 years of currently known about and economically recoverable uranium. obv there's possibly a lot of it about not yet known about as it's currently not viable to recover it.
breeder reactors will be used long term that are much more efficient.
also: Uranium supply
breeder reactors will be used long term that are much more efficient.
also: Uranium supply
03 April 2008, 03:59 AM
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World energy resources and consumption - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"These figures may be too optimistic. Energy Watch Group reports show that we already cannot supply the demand for oil[34] and that uranium resources will be exhausted within 70 years. [35]"
If all power sources were replaced with nuclear, that 70 year figure will be halved, maybe more. Although I don't find all the info on this site to be accurate, the 35 year figure is supported by other sources I have read.
PS. Australia has the largest source of Uranium.
"These figures may be too optimistic. Energy Watch Group reports show that we already cannot supply the demand for oil[34] and that uranium resources will be exhausted within 70 years. [35]"
If all power sources were replaced with nuclear, that 70 year figure will be halved, maybe more. Although I don't find all the info on this site to be accurate, the 35 year figure is supported by other sources I have read.
PS. Australia has the largest source of Uranium.
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03 April 2008, 09:54 AM
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You are quoting years based on the use of natural uranium deposits, however the future will see a large proportion of nuclear fuel made from mixed oxides (MOX) fuel. These are uranium and plutonium oxides recovered from recycled 'spent' nuclear fuel. MOX is currently manufactured in France (MELOX), Belgium and in the UK at the Sellafield Mox Plant. There are advanced plans to build a MOX plant here in Japan and Russia also (maybe others too). MOX fuel is currently being used in reactors in Belgium, Switzerland, Germany and France. The future is nuclear
03 April 2008, 12:33 PM
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Anyway, the oil and Uranium will see me out so thats ok.
Hopefully by then we will have started making better use of renewables like wind, solar and tidal power, is there is a definite finite amount of easily extractable non renewable energy.
Hopefully by then we will have started making better use of renewables like wind, solar and tidal power, is there is a definite finite amount of easily extractable non renewable energy.
07 April 2008, 01:45 PM
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Quick thread revival
Chernobyl Tour, Ukraine: Visit the Site of the Nuclear Disaster/Accident. Chernobyl (Chornobyl) trip picture.
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Tour, hotel and flight. Long weekend with visit to chernobyl on the Sunday.
More concerned about the local mafia than the radiation. I want to go but don't fancy going alone. Misses doesn't want to go
What happens if its too high? Do they make you stay
Chernobyl Tour, Ukraine: Visit the Site of the Nuclear Disaster/Accident. Chernobyl (Chornobyl) trip picture.
President Hotel | Main Page |
British Airways - Plan your journey
Tour, hotel and flight. Long weekend with visit to chernobyl on the Sunday.
More concerned about the local mafia than the radiation. I want to go but don't fancy going alone. Misses doesn't want to go
On entering and leaving the 30-kilometer zone, the participant undergoes a radioactivity testing and is given an official computer-generated printout.
07 April 2008, 02:08 PM
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Didn't know about the 'Kidd of Speed' site getting closed down, but I was completely fascinated with the words and photos when I first saw it. Seen a few of the threads on 28 Days Later too, and I was up until about 3am last night playing the Pripyat level on CoD4 last night and pretty much sh!tting myself inside out! 
Also I read somewhere on a photography site that apparently when the accident happened, Pripyat was fully evacuated within three hours, how much truth is in that I don't know, but very impressive if its true!
Also I read somewhere on a photography site that apparently when the accident happened, Pripyat was fully evacuated within three hours, how much truth is in that I don't know, but very impressive if its true!
07 April 2008, 02:32 PM
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I installed this mod. Has the SHARPER mod and Float32. STALKER will really benefit from some good visual mods and a quick machine.
Enabling cars can be handy if you can't be bothered to walk everywhere - they are actually in the game to be used but when the game was shortened they locked them. I never did as it too away the feeling of desolation.
The game was originally called STALKER: Oblivion Lost. There is a mod that makes the game close to the original ideas. Near complete free roaming.
IMO, it could have been a very successful MMO.
I'd also recommend a decent walkthrough as you can get a lost at first. Make sure the walkthrough advises you to complete the IIRC "Meet the guide" mission because not doing this mission means you don't get the option to play the final level.
Its hard at first but really stick with it, the reward is worth it.
Sorry if this seems like a spoiler but you'll thank me. I'd go as far as to say its easily as good as Half Life 2 and its theme is more interesting.
I installed this mod. Has the SHARPER mod and Float32. STALKER will really benefit from some good visual mods and a quick machine.
Enabling cars can be handy if you can't be bothered to walk everywhere - they are actually in the game to be used but when the game was shortened they locked them. I never did as it too away the feeling of desolation.
The game was originally called STALKER: Oblivion Lost. There is a mod that makes the game close to the original ideas. Near complete free roaming.
IMO, it could have been a very successful MMO.
I'd also recommend a decent walkthrough as you can get a lost at first. Make sure the walkthrough advises you to complete the IIRC "Meet the guide" mission because not doing this mission means you don't get the option to play the final level.
Its hard at first but really stick with it, the reward is worth it.
Sorry if this seems like a spoiler but you'll thank me. I'd go as far as to say its easily as good as Half Life 2 and its theme is more interesting.
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07 April 2008, 03:06 PM
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How early on is that in the game Edd? I remember you telling us about this game a while ago. I've got it but never got into it but I have doen a few missions.
Going to try out that visual addon as well!
Going to try out that visual addon as well!