Untaxed car clamped ???
#33
What has probably happened here is someone has said something about the car and they've got the DVLA to do something about it. Good trick that one because the council save money not removing an abandoned car and generally the DVLA are a bit quicker out of the blocks. I suspect one of the neighbours complained to them about it.
Bit jobsworth of course but i suspect they've just done it for that reason. Still, look on the brightside, it has made you get your finger out and shift it heh heh. top pic btw.
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#36
some pics
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...285p/clio3.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...285p/clio2.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...285p/clio1.jpg
And now the fun
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...85p/clamp3.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...85p/clamp1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...85p/clamp5.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...285p/clio3.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...285p/clio2.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...285p/clio1.jpg
And now the fun
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...85p/clamp3.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...85p/clamp1.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...85p/clamp5.jpg
100% respect mate, would love to see there faces when they come to collect the car, well done mate.
#37
Quality! Theres little doubt that this was private land though. That said: Ive even had Police officers argue that council owned land is 'highway' and absolutely unable to grasp the concept of the authority being a private land owner too...
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If they had it clamped it for having no Tax on a public highway and it isnt a public highway then they are wrong
Except the DVLA chap. they have more power than the cops do over your car and they CAN clamp on council land too.
Either way - top job removing it and leaving the clamp
#42
respect to ya mate
thats got to be the funniest thing I have seen in ages
you need to keep us posted on the happenings, i have subscribed to the thread so I dont forget to check for your updates
thats got to be the funniest thing I have seen in ages
you need to keep us posted on the happenings, i have subscribed to the thread so I dont forget to check for your updates
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Update.
Today dvla have been to collect there clamp,wheel,hub and driveshaft
Sadly i wasnt there but im informed they were not amused and a little dumstruck.
They've removed there clamp and left there hub etc. behind
They have moved the hub and left it halfway across a pavement which is obviously dangerous. I hope that know one trips over it before im able to move it to a safer place.
I will move it to some where safe.
Now i wonder who this property belongs to?Isnt littering the 'public highyway' is an offence?
Today dvla have been to collect there clamp,wheel,hub and driveshaft
Sadly i wasnt there but im informed they were not amused and a little dumstruck.
They've removed there clamp and left there hub etc. behind
They have moved the hub and left it halfway across a pavement which is obviously dangerous. I hope that know one trips over it before im able to move it to a safer place.
I will move it to some where safe.
Now i wonder who this property belongs to?Isnt littering the 'public highyway' is an offence?
#47
#48
they said that although it was private property (Tesco) the public had vehicle access so it counted as public highway and treated it as a proper RTA going round his house and everything.
I suspect the same rule applies in this case (as it is a car park) urgo public highway.
As i said before though, they are unlikely to have been casually checking it (unless OP was very unlucky) what is more likely someone has reported it as a dumped car with it being out of tax and damaged and the council have passe dit on the the DVLA to avoid recovery costs.
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#49
You've got to laugh at that, I just hope for the sake of your friends that the authorities don't have a sense of humour failure.
The law isn't straightforward when it comes to what is/isn't allowed. When new housing estates are built there will be a point in time when the road is "adopted" by the local council. Until that time I don't think it's classed as a public road (if someone knows differently then please prove me wrong). However because the public have a right of access to drive on such roads, even if un-adopted, you can still be done for breaking the road traffic act, drink driving for example. Finding out if the car-park has been adopted by the council might be key, but if the law applies to anywhere which has public access then they're screwed.
Top marks for entertainment though
The law isn't straightforward when it comes to what is/isn't allowed. When new housing estates are built there will be a point in time when the road is "adopted" by the local council. Until that time I don't think it's classed as a public road (if someone knows differently then please prove me wrong). However because the public have a right of access to drive on such roads, even if un-adopted, you can still be done for breaking the road traffic act, drink driving for example. Finding out if the car-park has been adopted by the council might be key, but if the law applies to anywhere which has public access then they're screwed.
Top marks for entertainment though
#50
That is absolutely superb work. The bottom line is this. Apart from if they read this thread, there is zero evidence that it was your car, or that you removed the rest of the car and left the wheel.
This is illustrated by a problem a couple of years ago with my wife's car where we got a parking ticket through for a car park, but we knew we'd been elsewhere that day and it wasn't us. After months and months of the council trying to claim that it was our problem because they had taken the reg, and me stating that it was NOT our car just because the reg matched up, it turned out they had no other evidence and had to give up on chasing the fine. They had no photo of the car that would identify it, no distinguishing marks noted down, nothing. The record of a car registration in itself proves nothing, nothing at all. Anyone can see a similar car to their own, copy down the reg, get some plates made and bingo, no speeding fines, no Big Brother tracking you the whole time, no parking tickets, no need for tax or insurance - you become the motoring underclass and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it.
This is illustrated by a problem a couple of years ago with my wife's car where we got a parking ticket through for a car park, but we knew we'd been elsewhere that day and it wasn't us. After months and months of the council trying to claim that it was our problem because they had taken the reg, and me stating that it was NOT our car just because the reg matched up, it turned out they had no other evidence and had to give up on chasing the fine. They had no photo of the car that would identify it, no distinguishing marks noted down, nothing. The record of a car registration in itself proves nothing, nothing at all. Anyone can see a similar car to their own, copy down the reg, get some plates made and bingo, no speeding fines, no Big Brother tracking you the whole time, no parking tickets, no need for tax or insurance - you become the motoring underclass and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it.
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they said that although it was private property (Tesco) the public had vehicle access so it counted as public highway and treated it as a proper RTA going round his house and everything.
I suspect the same rule applies in this case (as it is a car park) urgo public highway.
I suspect the same rule applies in this case (as it is a car park) urgo public highway.
The law isn't straightforward when it comes to what is/isn't allowed. When new housing estates are built there will be a point in time when the road is "adopted" by the local council. Until that time I don't think it's classed as a public road (if someone knows differently then please prove me wrong). However because the public have a right of access to drive on such roads, even if un-adopted, you can still be done for breaking the road traffic act, drink driving for example. Finding out if the car-park has been adopted by the council might be key, but if the law applies to anywhere which has public access then they're screwed.
It would be very interesting to see if anyone has ever been prosecuted for speeding etc on one of these roads or Tescos car park. As GC8 the police are often ignorant of the status of "supposed" highway.
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Update.
Today dvla have been to collect there clamp,wheel,hub and driveshaft
Sadly i wasnt there but im informed they were not amused and a little dumstruck.
They've removed there clamp and left there hub etc. behind
They have moved the hub and left it halfway across a pavement which is obviously dangerous. I hope that know one trips over it before im able to move it to a safer place.
I will move it to some where safe.
Now i wonder who this property belongs to?Isnt littering the 'public highyway' is an offence?
Today dvla have been to collect there clamp,wheel,hub and driveshaft
Sadly i wasnt there but im informed they were not amused and a little dumstruck.
They've removed there clamp and left there hub etc. behind
They have moved the hub and left it halfway across a pavement which is obviously dangerous. I hope that know one trips over it before im able to move it to a safer place.
I will move it to some where safe.
Now i wonder who this property belongs to?Isnt littering the 'public highyway' is an offence?
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According to this (& you) I guess it does then:
"Most of the provisions apply on all roads throughout Great Britain, although there are some exceptions. The definition of a road in England and Wales is ‘any highway and any other road to which the public has access and includes bridges over which a road passes’ (RTA 1988 sect 192(1)). In Scotland, there is a similar definition which is extended to include any way over which the public have a right of passage (R(S)A 1984 sect 151(1)).
It is important to note that references to ‘road’ therefore generally include footpaths, bridleways and cycle tracks, and many roadways and driveways on private land (including many car parks). In most cases, the law will apply to them and there may be additional rules for particular paths or ways. Some serious driving offences, including drink-driving offences, also apply to all public places, for example public car parks"