GC8

Pete is a f*cking idiot, but that fact does not, in itself, detract from his talent. That said, if anyones going to talk to me about life in a cycle of addiction, then it should be Pete, because he really knows what its like...

little-ginge

I only 'know' of Pete Docherty through his well-recorded association with Kate Moss and his prolific drug abuse.

He has been to court on numerous occasions and has somehow nearly always managed to get away it - burglary, theft, assault, drugs etc

Been given numerous chances, but has continually shown his true colours - his musical talents have nothing to do with this. Quite simply he is yet another waste of space who needs to have the key thrown at him.

Lisawrx

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I think the issue people seem to have with Pete, is the drug taking, and not so much his talent, as so many admit they've never heard any of his music.

Personally, I'm not a follower of him, but I do vaguely recall hearing a song by Babyshambles which I really liked, so I'd certainly not write off the fact he may have talent based on my limited knowledge, just because he's a druggie.

Perceptions have changed with regards to drug taking, when in the public eye. Certainly when people see a person being caught up in trouble more often than not generally, than actually seeing the good points, ie talent and music. That is now tainted for him, because the drugs stories take precidence.

I quite like some of Amy Winehouse's music, yet people were equally quick to write her off, largely due to the drug issue.

Drug addicts, these days are not seen as good role models, and I can understand both sides of the coin there. At the end of the day, he has got away long enough for basically commotting a criminal offence, and I don't see how anyone can dispute that he deserves to do time eventually.

ScoobyWon't

Do you mean the book thrown at him? Personally I'd recommend a hand grenade to rid society of his indifference to the way of life the good people of this country respect.

little-ginge

That'll be the one.. if he had the key thrown at him, he could let himself out..

I'm far too busy plotting revenge, suffering from toothache and a headache..so I'm bound to foof up more than usual

angrynorth

You are aware he has served a prison sentence before aren't you?

Not saying that makes him any better, but he hasn't always gotten away with it.

Again, we could bring up the Rolling stones here, who in 67 were arrested, charged and convicted of drugs related offences, but were strangely let off the next day. Add to that the numerous times Keith Richards has been caught in possession and practically put on a pedestal as a "rock god" because of legendary substance abuse.

You've then of course got Ozzy Osbourne who is everyones favourite "loveable rogue" yet is clearly a drugs mess who has openly admitted burglary and assault in the past. But Ozzy has also dodged serious jail terms.

little-ginge

I think you'll find most of those sentences have been reduced on appeal.. or suspended only for him to be re-arrested just hours later with enough drugs to supply..

I'm not saying that he is the only one, but he is the thread topic.

If you look at his conduct over the past 4 years - the last 2 in particular, I think he deserves to be locked up. He has had enough chances, been given rehab orders only to flout them etc...

ScoobyWon't

Look, it was a joke, ok?

Or try here for tips to use on other folk

angrynorth

6 months reduced to 2 was the last, then a suspended sentence which is pretty common for minor offences.

Well, he is now so I guess that makes you satisfied then?

little-ginge

Well, thats a pretty stupid thing to say, isn't it? Can i taje it from that comment that you are of the opinion that anyone who commits a crime should go free?

Mention the name Pete Docherty and most people will say' Kate Moss & drugs'.

I would love to know how many people are fans of his music, and how many are fans of his notority. His face is in the news more often than not due to his actions, and not his music, and as such he is yet another bad influence.

No more chances. Perhaps a proper sentence might give him the wake up call he, and many others, so obviously need.

New_scooby_04

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I personally think he is very over-rated as a musician, but that is a matter of taste and is open to dispute.

What is not open to dispute is that he is a habitual drug user and criminal. Those are facts and not open to dispute.

My opinion is that he is a p*ss poor example of a human being and represents a lot of what is wrong with society today. You can argue with that of course, and I will respect your input, no matter how wrong it may be!

Ns04

angrynorth

Well it's not exactly a stupid thing to say seeing as though you said:

That makes me think you would be satisfied with this decision. I think that is a fair assumption.

I would imagine there are quite a few fans of his music considering his bands have produced 3 top 10 albums, one of which is in platinum.

New_scooby_04

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Popularity is not necessarily a positive endorsement of a person, or their talent/ability.

Tony Blair swept into power on one of the biggest election victories on record and we all know how that ended!

Sometimes peoples choices reflect a dearth of alternatives (as in the election example) and I'd suggest that is often the case with the modern music industry too!

The GP also do seem compelled to enjoy watching others behaving badly, making fools of themselves, falling from grace etc... (how else do you explain Big Brother ) so I guess he scores heavily on that front!

Ns04

PS Didn't the VengaBoys go Platinum

r32

Thats seems to be pretty accurate, I dont give him five years before he's in the ground, unless he amends his lifestyle. That would be much of an achievement would it?

SwissTony

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FFS, get a grip man, the guy is completely talentless, mumbles, cant sing, looks like a complete spaccer, is a waste of time and effort, has gained notoriety by his drug grabbing headlins and little else and simply could do us all a favour by royally ****ing off.

just my opinion of course

Prasius

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What the hell has his "music" got to do with any of this?!

The fact is he is an habitual drug user, who has committed drug related crimes, has been involved in numerous assaults, and has failed to abide by the terms of his suspended sentence.

JAIL the waster. If you want to make excuses for smacked up wastes of oxygen feel free.. personally, I'd put the ****ers down.

SiPie

Both PATHETIC infractions raised here

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...ml#post7795861

Get a grip people, we are still allowed to have opinions even if they differ to your own

The Zohan

Agreed!
I hope this is a wake up call.

It appears that he has had it easy so far ad seems to have got away with this rock star bag head lifestyle for a while now.


Re Jealousy
As for talent - subjective, Peteshambles not my cuppa tea and not what i would call cutting edge or influential
As for better girlfriends - do not judge everybody by your standards - So he dates some models/so called stars with similar habits to his own, druggies to tend to gravitate towards each other after all.


The bloke is a mess and needs to sort himself out!

jaytc2003

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Probably get infracted for this, but everytime I see him either on the news or in the papers, I can always imagine him smelling of p!$$, so may be safe in the showers.

This is of course in my opinion

STi wanna Subaru

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I think we need more rock stars like him. It's hardly a new thing lets face it. hell the Beatles and Rolling stones have consumed more class A's than Doherty could shake a ****ty stick at!

Devildog

LOL

Ironic, eh Simon. I think that you are confusing opinion for fact here

Define "extremely successful"

He's certainly not successful enough that he can always afford to buy his own drugs with his own cash

Critical acclaim is also, without a doubt, extremely subjective.

In the generally accepted and grand scheme of things neither the libertines nor babyshambles have been "successful" bands. Not even close to the likes of fecking Girls Aloud ....

I can see that his music has "appeal". Its not my thing, but that's my opinion. On a personal note, I'd like to have a beer with the bloke 'cos he seems like a nice guy

Devildog

Thats a good point

I believe what riles people on here is that he keeps getting caught and keeps getting away with it.

Seems like the anger is with the system, but misdirected to the individual.

STi wanna Subaru

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Exactly. A rock star who takes drugs and ***** models.... whatever next!

Yes he's been a **** and should take his punishment but he's just living the lifestyle his job tends to dictate.

The Zohan

In all fairness it is not compulsory to take drugs.

He may not want to be a role model but he is in the public eye and happy for the public to buy his (so called) music and effectively pay for his habit.

With all the trouble in the UK with unruly kids - in some case fueled by alcohol and drugs and leading to people being killed or badly beaten, it hardly sends out the right messages to see this habitual user and abuser just getting away with it time after time.

Good to see him banged up - finally!

SwissTony

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Tidgy

don't know his music, all i know is he's a druggy and has gotten away scott free with alot.

any other normal person would have had jail well before now.

regardless of what he/his music is or isn't, he's a druggy, plain and simple.

lock him up, throw away the key

RUDDY

im sure he is not to bothered at all really! his music is very good ive seen him play live countless times! he is really not as bad as you all like to think!
PETE DOHERTY IS INNOCENT!
infractions lol! now who are the dirty little cvnts again??

Leslie

Regardless of his talent, he has no excuse for habitually breaking the law of the land.

I often wonder why these celebrities always seem to get treated with a considerably lighter touch when it comes to penalties. Why should they get away so often with seemingly ignoring the laws and repeatedly breaking them?

Les

T5OLF

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Infracted for that??? good god what is this site coming to?

Who ever did that needs to get a grip.

New_scooby_04

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Yep,

15 court appearances in total by all accounts for offenses including: possession of a weapon, driving offenses, drug possession, breach of bail conditions.

He's even being treated with a lighter touch by some on here. In another thread a woman is rightly being derided for being a **** poor mum, yet here we have a habitual druggie and criminal and if anyone calls a spade a spade, they're either dismissed as being "jealous" or get infracted.

Whether you think he's musically talented or not is totally irrelevant!

Ns04