Pete Doherty finally gets a stretch!!!
09 April 2008, 11:34 AM
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Regardless of his talent, he has no excuse for habitually breaking the law of the land.
I often wonder why these celebrities always seem to get treated with a considerably lighter touch when it comes to penalties. Why should they get away so often with seemingly ignoring the laws and repeatedly breaking them?
Les
I often wonder why these celebrities always seem to get treated with a considerably lighter touch when it comes to penalties. Why should they get away so often with seemingly ignoring the laws and repeatedly breaking them?
Les
well said
09 April 2008, 12:44 PM
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To My Infractor:
You can make excuses for idiots who want to pump themselves full of illegal drugs if you want. I won't.
I have no opinion of his music; to be honest, I couldn't name one of his songs - but that has no relevance to this argument at all.
The only thing people here can bring to defend him is "his music's really good" - well yipdee-****ing-do for him. I'm sure all those city types who share trade are very good at what they do as well, but thats no excuse for shoving kilos of coke up your nose.
The fact that other famous musicians have taken drugs is also irrelevant in this case; being a musician does NOT give you the right to break the law.
He has committed numerous offences, and has got off time after time after time. It is wrong, and further highlights how messed up the justice system is in this country.
Oh.. and if the Infraction was about my opinion that smack heads are obviously so weak at resisting peer pressure and dealing with their lives with a clear head that they should be put down as a favour to them; well thats my opinion. If that upsets you as a smack head then I suggest you go and shoot up and forget about me being nasty to you.
As for "he's a musician, its what they do".. what a crock of ****.
I'm a squaddy, I'm going to go beat a load of people up and you can't prosecute me for it because THATS WHAT I DO.
IMHO.
You can make excuses for idiots who want to pump themselves full of illegal drugs if you want. I won't.
I have no opinion of his music; to be honest, I couldn't name one of his songs - but that has no relevance to this argument at all.
The only thing people here can bring to defend him is "his music's really good" - well yipdee-****ing-do for him. I'm sure all those city types who share trade are very good at what they do as well, but thats no excuse for shoving kilos of coke up your nose.
The fact that other famous musicians have taken drugs is also irrelevant in this case; being a musician does NOT give you the right to break the law.
He has committed numerous offences, and has got off time after time after time. It is wrong, and further highlights how messed up the justice system is in this country.
Oh.. and if the Infraction was about my opinion that smack heads are obviously so weak at resisting peer pressure and dealing with their lives with a clear head that they should be put down as a favour to them; well thats my opinion. If that upsets you as a smack head then I suggest you go and shoot up and forget about me being nasty to you.
As for "he's a musician, its what they do".. what a crock of ****.
I'm a squaddy, I'm going to go beat a load of people up and you can't prosecute me for it because THATS WHAT I DO.
IMHO.
09 April 2008, 01:29 PM
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Personally, I think he's what's referred to in the business as a singer with a voice amputation: i.e. can't hold a note, can't carry a tune! :-)
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09 April 2008, 01:38 PM
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Actually,
I'm gonna jump on this "write about addiction" bandwagon though, as it seems to be a ticket to accumulating wealth quickly!
*plays blues riff*
Woke up this morning, feeling cack,
So I turned over to my girlfriend,
and I said, "Where's my stash of crack"
But she's run off with someone who showers,
and I don't think she's coming back.
I got those, criminal, habitual drug user drop out masquerading as an artist with a tortured soul blues....oh yeah!!!!
Thankyouverymuch....
I'm gonna jump on this "write about addiction" bandwagon though, as it seems to be a ticket to accumulating wealth quickly!
*plays blues riff*
Woke up this morning, feeling cack,
So I turned over to my girlfriend,
and I said, "Where's my stash of crack"
But she's run off with someone who showers,
and I don't think she's coming back.
I got those, criminal, habitual drug user drop out masquerading as an artist with a tortured soul blues....oh yeah!!!!
Thankyouverymuch....
......******
09 April 2008, 01:44 PM
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09 April 2008, 01:53 PM
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If your caught using drugs, your music should be pulled IMO.
Don't give a funk if he has talent, I've never heard his music. I've heard Amy Winehouse and I think she is sh1te and over-hyped and another one that deserves zero attention.
I don't know they law but I also assume 14 weeks isn't what the rest of us would get if we were caught with whatever he was supposed to have on him.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-drugs but if you become famous with people of all ages buying your wares, you should cultivate a responsible image for yourself.
Put it another way, say for instance a famous singer gets caught with drugs and its a case of oh well he is a bit of a hell raiser.
Say same singer gets caught acting out a **** sex orgy and happens to have a german father (or a british father that thought Hitler got a bad rep) how long would his record company keep him then.
Drugs are sexy, dodgy sex isn't sexy? Don't make sense. (much like this post )
Don't give a funk if he has talent, I've never heard his music. I've heard Amy Winehouse and I think she is sh1te and over-hyped and another one that deserves zero attention.
I don't know they law but I also assume 14 weeks isn't what the rest of us would get if we were caught with whatever he was supposed to have on him.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-drugs but if you become famous with people of all ages buying your wares, you should cultivate a responsible image for yourself.
Put it another way, say for instance a famous singer gets caught with drugs and its a case of oh well he is a bit of a hell raiser.
Say same singer gets caught acting out a **** sex orgy and happens to have a german father (or a british father that thought Hitler got a bad rep) how long would his record company keep him then.
Drugs are sexy, dodgy sex isn't sexy? Don't make sense. (much like this post
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09 April 2008, 02:03 PM
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Bybye The Who, Led Zepp, The Rolling stones, Hendrix, the doors, Janis Joplin, The Beatles - And susequent solo careers.... And well, pretty much every single one of the top bands you care to mention.
Do I care if any of them did drugs? Not a jot.
Dohery had a condition where he had to go to rehab and kick the heroin habit - which he looked to have done - He has been pretty lucid of late.
He was sent to prison because he failed to turn up to his parole officer once and was late on another occaison - He wasnt caught with anything on him at all.
In this respect he has been treated no differently than anyone else.
09 April 2008, 02:06 PM
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Don't care. Get caught, pi55 off.
Its odd how in these PC crazy times, drug taking singers are allowed to behave the way they do. I just don't think its acceptable behaviour.
Its odd how in these PC crazy times, drug taking singers are allowed to behave the way they do. I just don't think its acceptable behaviour.
09 April 2008, 02:11 PM
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Why? How does it affect you if they decide to take drugs?
Its got nothing to do with being PC - It's just pretty difficult to jusitfy sending someone to prison for deciding to take drugs
09 April 2008, 02:11 PM
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The message the system seemed to be giving out was that you won't get in trouble when you are caught with illegal drugs as long as you appear every other few weeks in hello magazine.
09 April 2008, 02:23 PM
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When I have to lie to my daughter as to why a singer (Amy Winehouse) that she recognises and likes is going to hospital.
I have to lie because Amy Winehouse can't control her fecking habit. Can hardly tell a 6 year old its because she sticks nasty chemicals into her arms.
It really annoyed me at the time and it really annoys me now. More than it really should I guess but it does.
I have to lie because Amy Winehouse can't control her fecking habit. Can hardly tell a 6 year old its because she sticks nasty chemicals into her arms.
It really annoyed me at the time and it really annoys me now. More than it really should I guess but it does.
09 April 2008, 03:34 PM
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Hmmm I had never heard of him or babyshambles or the latrines or whatever the other band was called, until he started getting into trouble and it was posted about on here, I find stuff out quicker from Scoobynet than I do from the news.
Anyway I now know who he is as I have seen him on the news a few times, but I still have no idea what he or his band have sung.
Anyway I now know who he is as I have seen him on the news a few times, but I still have no idea what he or his band have sung.
09 April 2008, 03:44 PM
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If your caught using drugs, your music should be pulled IMO.
09 April 2008, 05:23 PM
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Can hardly tell a 6 year old its because she sticks nasty chemicals into her arms.
You could maybe just suggest that even good people can do bad things at times
PS Not worth lying to kids (you could sort out the Santa one whilst you are at it).
09 April 2008, 05:39 PM
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Looking at it that way I see your point. If thats all they can think of to do then they get pity.
09 April 2008, 05:48 PM
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The milk of human kindness flowing sweetly through SN I see 
I personally don't like the guy but he's just a mixed up mess so let's hope he straightens himself out. Still he did push his luck a bit too far.
He is also very talented.
So prison is going to get him off the drugs habit is it?
dl
I personally don't like the guy but he's just a mixed up mess so let's hope he straightens himself out. Still he did push his luck a bit too far.
He is also very talented.
So prison is going to get him off the drugs habit is it?
dl
09 April 2008, 06:22 PM
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David;
I can have some sympathy for some kid who gets abused at home, runs away, finds themselves on the streets and ends up getting some kind of comfort by getting out of their **** on heroin.
The whole "tortured artist" thing is a big poncy excuse in my opinion that I have very little time for - if he doesn't like the "pressure" of what he does for a living, its easy - Quit. As it is, I'm sure many people here have jobs that are considerably more stressful than his - and I include mine - who don't resort to getting out of their face on drugs, assault, spitting at people in the street....
I can have some sympathy for some kid who gets abused at home, runs away, finds themselves on the streets and ends up getting some kind of comfort by getting out of their **** on heroin.
The whole "tortured artist" thing is a big poncy excuse in my opinion that I have very little time for - if he doesn't like the "pressure" of what he does for a living, its easy - Quit. As it is, I'm sure many people here have jobs that are considerably more stressful than his - and I include mine - who don't resort to getting out of their face on drugs, assault, spitting at people in the street....
09 April 2008, 06:32 PM
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09 April 2008, 07:25 PM
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David;
I can have some sympathy for some kid who gets abused at home, runs away, finds themselves on the streets and ends up getting some kind of comfort by getting out of their **** on heroin.
The whole "tortured artist" thing is a big poncy excuse in my opinion that I have very little time for - if he doesn't like the "pressure" of what he does for a living, its easy - Quit. As it is, I'm sure many people here have jobs that are considerably more stressful than his - and I include mine - who don't resort to getting out of their face on drugs, assault, spitting at people in the street....
I can have some sympathy for some kid who gets abused at home, runs away, finds themselves on the streets and ends up getting some kind of comfort by getting out of their **** on heroin.
The whole "tortured artist" thing is a big poncy excuse in my opinion that I have very little time for - if he doesn't like the "pressure" of what he does for a living, its easy - Quit. As it is, I'm sure many people here have jobs that are considerably more stressful than his - and I include mine - who don't resort to getting out of their face on drugs, assault, spitting at people in the street....
I just hope, for his sake, that he gets sorted but the signs aren't good are they? From what I read success rate for rehab is about 3%.
And I think SN could be a little kinder to people generally. Sorry if that offends
dl
09 April 2008, 07:47 PM
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As it is, I'm sure many people here have jobs that are considerably more stressful than his - and I include mine - who don't resort to getting out of their face on drugs, assault, spitting at people in the street....
I did get your profession right Prasius ?
09 April 2008, 08:10 PM
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Compared to the vast majority of groups in modern life, I don't think a less than 1% CDT failure rate is that bad; especially put against how often we get tested - my current record is 7 times in one year!
I'm pretty sure a comparable 100,000 members of the public from a comparable sex & age would have a far higher failure rate.
09 April 2008, 08:57 PM
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Wow, what an incredibly angry thread. I think a few people here could do with a couple of lines of coke to improve their outlook on life somewhat.
I can only imagine what would happen if all the music written by artists on were pulled. I think we'd be left with the theme tune to the Archers playing over and over on every station.
If life was wrapped in cotton wool as seems to be favored by some on here, the world would be a place beyond all imaginable nightmare I think.
Sure he should take the punishment for whatever crimes have been committed , but most of these comments are Stalinist in the extreme!
I can only imagine what would happen if all the music written by artists on were pulled. I think we'd be left with the theme tune to the Archers playing over and over on every station.
If life was wrapped in cotton wool as seems to be favored by some on here, the world would be a place beyond all imaginable nightmare I think.
Sure he should take the punishment for whatever crimes have been committed , but most of these comments are Stalinist in the extreme!
09 April 2008, 09:17 PM
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I think most of the general public (me included) dont begrudge Doherty for his addiction per se-There but for the grace of God etc...Its just the way that Doherty has conducted himself throughout his "infamy" period.I remember quite clearly how he turns up late for his court appearances.Some of which he didn't bother attending because he was "ill" ie couldnt be arsed...And how did the courts deal with him-adjourn the case.
To compound this,you have sycophantic fans sucking it up and glamourising Doherty-thus feeding his ego more.Lets hope his stretch with normal people will re-focus him.
The problem will be,with the amount of drugs in prison,he will end up an even bigger addict than when he went in
To compound this,you have sycophantic fans sucking it up and glamourising Doherty-thus feeding his ego more.Lets hope his stretch with normal people will re-focus him.
The problem will be,with the amount of drugs in prison,he will end up an even bigger addict than when he went in