angrynorth

I'd be more concerned about someone smoking weed than doing a few lines of ching or a couple of pills.

From my experience, the people I've known that smoked weed have all descended into a miserable existence, losing all ambition to do anything and being more concerned with just going home and chilling with a joint. I've seen it lead to pretty harsh depression and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. I know there are plenty of people out there who do it and are OK, it just seems to make people a bit too laid back in my opinion.

On the other side though, I know and socialise with lots of people who do pills, coke and MDMA powder. They are far from the scummy, dropouts that the papers would have you believe all people who use drugs are. All this lot party hard, but work respectable/dream jobs and have no ill effects or addictions whatsoever. I can quite happily go out with this lot around town and they won't touch anything and then on other weekends, they will start on a Friday and not stop till Sunday evening fuelled by a mixture of coke and pills. There is no reliance on the drugs and there is certainly no motivation to become crack heads or try genuinely addictive drugs like heroin.

angrynorth

Totally agree with this. Especially the bit about not boosting your character at a party, more along the lines of just wanting the party to carry on for as long as possible.

I've yet to see any kind of drugs change any of my friends personalities at any party.

SiPie

On the other 'other' hand, 2 of my good mates went from friday night coke only, to weekends only, thurs & fri only, and it ended up messy with a very good salesman needing a line before every call....depends on the individual.

angrynorth

Couldn't agree more with that sentiment. Just saying that through the social group I have of about 30-40 regular acquaintances and friends, more than half of them do something and that in that particular group there have been no ill-effects.

Leslie

I would not deny that more do get addicted to tobacco, it is also very addictive and I imagine that it is still more widely used than classified drugs. I can't comment on everyone's reasons for using drugs, but it is undeniable that the likelihood of addiction is always going to be there, of course some will be able to play it along to resist addiction but nevertheless, I imagine that the bad effects, like tobacco and alcohol will take time to show which fools people into thinking that no harm is happening to them. When it does go wrong-it is too late to undo it all completely.

Les

myblackwrx

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Possibly wrong smiley used by me was meant to mean that the government can tax it ,get loads of money and not worry about the consequences as they've made it legal so it's fine by them.

Ghetto Dude3

really?

i thought it magically affected my brain through the power of zenot waves

cookstar

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I used to use coke and pills recreationly with friends a while ago, this very quickly turned into quite a bit more than at the weekends

With some of the circles I mixed in it was around all the time in quite large quantities so the temptation was worse. Really started messing me up.

Gave it up completley now though and really could not even think of doing it again.

I must say though it was MUCH MUCH harder to give up smoking

David Lock

My view is that that is a completely meaningless statement. All that means is that they have tried it and it has been fine for them.... So far.....

It's not "perfectly OK" as you only have to pick up a newspaper to read of some poor kid taken out by an E or a dodgy supply of Heroin.

It may be fair to comment that the risks are small, even very small, especially for the odd smoke.

My own experience is very limited. Years ago I lived in the States and had a lot of cannabis but that was pretty mild stuff. A flatmate took pity on some 18 year old girl and she stayed in the flat (sorry apartment!). She mainlined on heroin, spent her day shoplifting and nights partying or crashed out. She's dead, of course. I had a female soulmate in the US and her daughter shot herself in a drugs related incident.

Fortunately I am a natural coward and was frightened of taking anything more than a smoke.

My advice would be to tell your pal it's not worth the small risk. But he/she probably won't take any notice. dl

Hoppy

All drugs are bad - alcohol, dope, ****, whatever.

What gets me is the assumption that a single splif turns you immediatedly you into a terminal herioin adict.

This is perhaps a datft analogy, but David Beckham started playing football at school. Does that make all his school mates potentail England captains?

Of course not. It's your state of mind/talent, not the drug.

Richard.

PS Playing for England must be quite addictive

PPS Geroge Best is dead. Was he a herioin addict? No. His head was fcuked.

_RIP_

Show everyone the proof then. You make this sound like an everyday occurrence. Where are the stats to back this up, especially for (real) ecstasy? I pick up a newspaper every morning, and I read SWA about kids being taken out. It's rare, lets face it.

T5OLF

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Most deaths are because of drinking to much water, Leah Betts died after drinking 14 pints of water in 90 mins. The drug did not kill her directly the water did.

myblackwrx

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But if she hadn't taken the drug she wouldn't have drunk that much water.
It's a catch 22 situation.

T5OLF

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Thats why I said it did not kill her directly. Like you say catch 22. But if she had just taken the drug and not the water she would still be alive.

mickywrx

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Leah Bett's was also pissed as a newt.

myblackwrx

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And i also do believe she had taken the drug previously

T5OLF

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More than likely. Waste of a young life.......

T5OLF

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Wasn't it supplied by the those guys who got blasted at point blank in that Range Rover down south.

OcTag3n

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Eat your beans, they're good for ya!

Moley

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It effects different people in different ways.

A few years ago some friends of mine started smoking cannabis. Completely changed them. They began getting serious mood swings, and it pretty much took over their lives. Eventually i didn't see them for about 6 months, as all they ever did was go to one guys house every evening and spend the night smoking.

When i did see them again, 3 of them had 'seen the light' and stopped. They said looking back it'd had been the most depressing few months of their life, but hadn't realised it at the time.

The other 2 friends who had started by having 'a quick joint' are now junkies. They moved on from cannabis to pills, then onto coke, and the last i heard they'd started doing heroin.

I once had a conversation with a guy who used to deal coke. He asked if i fancied some, and i declined his offer (I'm a very boring non-drinker, non-smoker, non-drug taker). He replied ''Don't blame ya mate. I don't touch it either, have seen too many people f**k their lives up because of it''.

stevebt

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I have taken Ecstasy,acid,speed cocaine and mushrooms in my past but don't really bother much now. Most of my friends still take cocaine alot now even when they are in the local pub on a monday night!! I think its a waste as its only fun when you are out for a good night and clubbing Cocaine is more socially accepted now and its not that expensive plus it does not give the tiredness etc of wshat speed gives you the next day

mickywrx

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My experience, not big, not clever, don't try this at home.

Used to drink when I was at school, well not literally, but once or twice a week, usually Tuesday night and Saturday night.

When I left school, I was a VERY occasional drinker. I had maybe 20 cans/pints in 2 years. Although I did get absoultey wasted on Southern Comfort a couple of times. *Spirits are bad*

I smoke, but have never been a fan of canabis, just don't like it, it doesn't like me. I've had the occasional joint though. Rather leave it than take it though.

When I was 17, had my first acid(LSD), enjoyed it. As with all things though, the more I took, the more a tolerance(?) I built up, to the point that I was taking 7 to just get a buzz.

Mushrooms, had a money bag full at a small rave once, freebie, wasn't overly impressed, different sort of buzz to acid, but both haloucegenics.

Also took speed a few times. Tried coke once, my god is that shyte over-rated, good job I did'nt pay for it.

Ecstacy - Took fooken **** loads of them, most likely excessively at times. Used to think nothing of having a pill, when out for a drink.

I took E regularly for about 4 years or so, worst experience, either of two.

1 - Had a few pints before a rave, dopped an acid, the dropped a pill in the queue. Couldn't stand up. Acid and E don't mix.

2- Getting back from a rave, and then projectile watery red vomit. Was worried until I realised the last thing I'd had was a cola ice-pop.

Haven't had anything for about 3 year now.

I don't think it's done me any harm. LONG term effects maybe. I think I'm a well rounded person, know how to string a sentence together

As has already been said, it really does depend on the person. People react differently to everything.

stevebt

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Try mixing them with poppers and speed and its a whole new world

mickywrx

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Poppers = Headache in a bottle.

Weed, Bucket = I turned green.

STi wanna Subaru

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Where?!!

T5OLF

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I think as you older you just grow out of it, plus it takes a week to recover were as when I was 20 I could go out all night and then go straight to work Saturday morning. Last time I did pills (2 years ago) it took me a week to recover and the midweek come down -you know the one was V bad. I just can't do it anymore.

chocolate_o_brian

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think i must be the only person on here thats never...

tried a cigarette/cigar/tobacco of any sort
tried any illegal drug of any sort
didnt try booze until i was gone 16 at college

but i was raised in a very militant/fearful household with a soft mum but a stern (and abusive) step father.

i have a few friends that occasionally smoke weed etc, and have been present when two have taken pills on a night out. admittedly i was once tempted to try 1/2 a pill but i bottled it and theoretically respect myself more so for resisting.

Tam the bam

I have taken possibly a thousand+ E's in my lifetime, spent years necking them in the 90's and stopped when my daughter was born, they haven't had any long term effect that I'm aware of. Wouldn't touch them now as they are all full of crap these days.

I admit some of the best nights out were on E and the ******** lasted all night

stevebt

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Considering your not supposed to drink till your 18 thats not that great will power I remeber going clubbing when I was 15 and getting told off from a mate cause I told 2 girls who were chatting us up my age

renny

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I'm not sure i can stop the traffic cone thieving