every1sgottablue1

Just remember horses were using the roads a long time before any car was on them so they have more of a right to be on them than we do. I always slow down for horses (not just because I like being waved at by good looking ladies) just out of courtesy, it doesn't bother me if I add about 10 seconds onto my journey!.
Most horse owners do have insurance, which includes public liability aswell, as my misses has it and all her friends. Horses do get spooked and will turn your cars to moosh if they care to, so I suggest showing some common courtesy to horse riders!
P.S did you know it is still a by law to carry a bail of hay in the back of all Hackney carriages, which comes from the days when they were horse and carriage

daisy_darling

I always slow down for horses and give them as much room as possible. Not out of respect or affection for them though, more because they scare me. With all that flat eared, eye rolling, barely controlled dancing about......i'm convinced the bloody things have only the most tenuous of grasps on sanity.

In younger days i rode motorbikes and managed to end up trapped between two parked cars while a 14 year old child tried and failed miserably to control the half ton of deranged muscle beneath her. It kicked the crap out of the astra and knocked me flat too, hitting my helmet hard against the stone wall i was next to.

The kids mother had jumped off her own horse and managed to get hold of the rodeo star whilst i was struggling out from under my bike. I was just sitting on the floor feeling fairly wobbly and extremely aggrieved when the kids mother comes back and starts shouting the odds about bikes and courtesy to horses etc. I'd been as courteous as poss, as soon as i'd seen them, i'd pulled the clutch in and tucked in between the cars.....but her whole attitude was that they owned the bloody road and i [ and my ilk ] were a complete nuisance.

It cost me about 800 quid to effect repairs and replace my helmet, and i never saw a penny off them for it.

scooby-tc

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Utter rubbish,maybe when there was no transport around in the 1800s before there were even roads just dirt tracks.Time has moved on,roads are built for vehicles transporting things from A-B not for wild animals.Thats why we have big fields where they can get as much excercise as they want without causing danger to motorists and fouling up the roads

The Zohan

Er utter, utter rubbish!

Romans where the first serious road builders in the UK - had the odd horse or two as well


If you want to get into fouling up the roads - how about removing all the untaxed unissured cars and illegal drivers, no licences for a start.

Or how about all the really short journeys to the shops a mile away or so, school runs, joy rides 'back road blasts' - all non essential and wasting precious fuel and damaging the enviroment really How about a ban on all cars that do less than 50mpg. Time has moved on, fuel running out so why the hell not...oh yes because people want to do, not need to do it!

Try to show some respect and tollerance for others - people who live in glass houses should not **********

every1sgottablue1

Didn't the Romans build our roads....don't think they had cars though LMAO!

every1sgottablue1

Mental note number 1= Must read other posts before replying!

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

They didnt have tarmac either,why do you think our roads are tarmac'd not for bloody horses thats for sure

every1sgottablue1

I could reply to that but I think I would get a infraction!

The Zohan

Assuming you went to school

They are called roman roads, classified as roads.

Tarmac or tarmacadam predates cars.
from wiki - acutally developed for horse drawn carriages, not cars (1887/8) for petrol driven mate but do not let history and facts get in the way of your well constructed argument

Macadamized roads were adequate for use by horses and carriages or coaches, but they were very dusty, subject to erosion with heavy rain and did not hold up to higher speed motor vehicle use. Methods to stabilize macadam roads with tar date back to at least 1834, when Henry Cassell patented "Pitch Macadam". This method involved spreading tar on the subgrade, then placing a typical macadam layer and then sealing the macadam with a mixture of tar and sand. Tar-grouted macadam was also in use well before 1900, and involved scarifying the surface of an existing macadam pavement, spreading tar and re-compacting. Hooley's patent for Tarmac involved mechanically mixing tar and aggregate prior to lay-down, and then compacting the mixture with a steam roller. The tar was modified with the addition of small amounts of Portland cement, resin and pitch.

so perhaps let sleeping horses lie on that tack - ho-ho!

The Zohan

You will notice that TC has chosen to ignore the other comments re unnessesary journeys, back road blasts, etc + showing some respect and tollerance of others - i wonder why.

apart from that i did love the roads just made for cars bits, just priceless!

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

I rest my case,these roads were nothing more than dirt tracks (better suited for horses) Thats why we have bridleways.Todays roads however are not designed for horses nor should they be riden on by them IMO as they are a nuisance and a danger to motorists.I for one won't go out of my way to tip toe around a wild animal on the road.

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

If you are going to quote me numpty may i suggest you actually read what i put first.Nowhere did i say the roads are for cars only.I said that todays roads are built for the transportation of things by vehices from A-B

The Zohan

LOL Good God, just re read and try to understand



Tarmac = Road surface developed for horse drawn carriages, beofre cars where invented.

For the hard of thinking
<typing slowly> developed-well-before-cars.

Actually don't bother it just isn't worth it. Yes you are right of course.

Prasius

iTrader: (1)

Townies!

STAY IN YOUR F**KING TOWNS!



*ahem*

The Zohan

Numpty - oh LOL

You said "why do you think roads are tramac'd not for bloody horses thats for sure" - direct quote!
Tarmac'd roads initially developed for horse drawn carriages. not too sure how many different ways i can say it.

Tarmac has moved on and been adapted yes, horses hooves are generally shod to cut down on wear and improve grip on the surface - equate it to tyre development in motor vehicles if that makes it easier.

Like people wear shoes now as they do not walk on dirt or soft grass - does that make it any easier.

Or perhaps people should not walk on the road or paths as thier feet are not up to it - without SHOES.

I'm done.

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

Read this quote that you had to research
Now you try to understand these roads were nothing more than dirt tracks as the quote clearly states) Todays roads however are built for motorised vehicles and not Horses.If you really think horses have the god given right to use our roads above transport then why dont they allow horses on motorways and dual carriageways.

You really need to think your arguement out more.I give in with this thread anyway as you cannot win an arguement with a cretin

scooby-tc

iTrader: (2)

PMSL ive heard it all now,pavements and designated pathways and pedestrianised areas are made for people as fields are for horses.Maybe these horse lovers should try using them

The Zohan

As missing the point is your forte.

It is about shoes, developed to save wearing the foot/hoof, protectiing thier foot/hoof and additional grip.

People wear shoes as do horses for the same/similar reasons.

look if it makes you feel any better you are right i am wrong and you are the king of all you survey.

Happy now!

Your well thought out comments re fouled up roads
Oh and how about dealing with my other points re respect understanding and tollerance of others, etc
How about unnessary journeys, back road blasts, cars that use huge amounts of fuel compared to others, etc.

Indulge me...

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

my only responce to that argument would be " it's a shame that the use of contraception is not more widespread in portsmoth"

Prasius

iTrader: (1)

If you speed past a horse your a ****ing ****.

I don't think I can put my opinion any more simple than that.

johnnyroper

exactly the b@stard horses can do some mighty ***** far bigger than my dog but they aint threatened with a grand fine,it winds me up aswell.
horse owners also think they own the road i was following horse box's today around cheltenham doing silly slow speeds,do you think they would move over to let you get past?
i will pass horses wide but at the speed limit but i have noticed the horses dont like the sound of the td05 with caik spinning up when you give it a bootfull just as you have passed em,the rider aint best pleased either.

Prasius

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I wasn't aware that a percentage of my fellow Subaru owners were such a bunch of immature, irresponsible *******.

DCI Gene Hunt

The main reason why horse trailers or transport lorry's drive STEADILY is because if the horse is jolted and falls during a move it usually will have to be put down by a vet at the scene.

Once the trailer stops with a fallen horse the police have to be called and in turn a vet... so that's why we drive CAREFULLY....

All the spotty chav oinks bragging about how they hate horses, drive by loudly, etc, etc are just making themselve look like a bunch of *****... so feel free to carry on and prove that the mentally challenged have now risen to the heady heights of Subaru ownership....

The Zohan

"A bootful just after you passed em" - how childish, selfish and dangerous for others.

Maybe (and i hope this never happens but as an example) your old parents get some abuse, yelled at, pushed out of the way for being a bit slow or in the way, remember - this is not that much difference - bit of respect and tollerence for others a little less me, me, me!


as DCI says the comments just keep proving the stereotype.

RUDDY

blast ya horn lads always makes the horse do this funny thing on its back legs! gets um out the way to!

GC8WRX

Why let a massive, easily spooked, ****ting animal on the roads?

99% of the time i see a horse being ridden near me they are jumpy, virtually un-controllable huge great liabilities that clearly were designed for fields and the like, they were clearly not designed for some hoo ray henry to ponce about on on a back road, slowing everyone down(cos we have to go past a 2mph or the horse ***** it and rears up!) while looking smugly down on the peasants below in their cars!

Worst of all is when you just cleaned the car and your on the way into town, and there are 2 great piles of **** side by side, cos two inconsiderate horse riding ***** have been riding two abreast, and the horse have shat at the same time! ( happened to me twice, and it makes a mess from my jun splitter to my ******* winscreen!)


note to riders: CLEAN UP AFTER YOUR HORSE WHEN IT ****S IN THE ROAD, YOU *****!

bish667

iTrader: (1)

Most horses get very scared by loud noises/cars. My girlfriends horse is great in the fact that it doesnt get bothered by loud noises. My previous wrx had a very loud exhaust system and it didnt even bat an eyelid when starting up or revving the car right beside it. It actually started to get to know the noise and would always know when we were arriving and would run towards the fence to meet us.

She has bought herself another horse but this ones a pansy. My new not very loud impreza scares it when i start it up about 30 metres away so i dont like the new horse

People should respect large animals like horses as they can seriously damage your car(so if you love your impreza dont **** them off) and easilly kill someone.

rbaz

iTrader: (1)

I lost a friend a few years ago when he hit a horse on his motorbike. It was dark and a 15 year old girl was walking across the road (with no lights or high vis) just after a big hump in the road. He came over the hump and a car must have slightly dazzled him coming the other way as he made no attempt to brake. He hit the horse in its chest killing him instantly and ripping the hose almost in two.
Witnesses at the scene said the horse owner came out and was trying to get the cars to shine the car headlights on the horse while the vet put it out of its misery while my friend lay dead in the ditch.

About a month later I was greeted by two horses in the same place. I managed to stop in time but had to brake very hard and I revved the bike a little on the down shifts (R6 with Akraprovik system on it ). The horse almost threw the rider off I almost fell of the bike laughing.
The guy went ape shouting at me telling me didn't I know somebody had been killed here and that I was crazy. Did they not learn? If they went a little further up the road there would have been no problem.

I will give respect to horses/riders when I meet them in a safe place but some don’t help themselves

ditchmyster

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im totally gobsmacked at the attitude of some people on here speeding past horses revving engines and pressing horns are you compleatly mad or just extreemly stupid apart from the danger to the horse and rider there are other road users who are possibley travelling behind you and could be greeted by a prancing horse in the middle of the road because of what i can only describe as tantermount to attempted manslaughter or at least thats what the prossicution barrister would call it!! lets hope it never happens! as for the chap whos friend died! didnt that very unfortunate incident teach you anything like maybe slow down a little bit in what is a known accident black spot!!!

dirkdiggler69

this thread would/should have been locked ages ago.
as it has now deteriorated into a shameful i've/my girlfriends got a horse so i love them.
versus i have'nt got a horse so i hate them contest.
very poor no win situation in my book