FCUKIN HORSES....!!!
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not taking either side on this.
if i approach a horse and rider on the road, i slow down to a crawl give them a wide berth and then steadily build up speed afterwards.
although it annoys me if i dont get an appreciative nod/wave etc afterwards.
happened once in broughton where the mrs mum and dad live (about 6 miles from s****horpe). went past very slowly, no appreciation etc. so i stopped, got out and asked why. they apologised straight away, i said no problem and just explained that i had been respectful and i expect something in return.
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if i approach a horse and rider on the road, i slow down to a crawl give them a wide berth and then steadily build up speed afterwards.
although it annoys me if i dont get an appreciative nod/wave etc afterwards.
happened once in broughton where the mrs mum and dad live (about 6 miles from s****horpe). went past very slowly, no appreciation etc. so i stopped, got out and asked why. they apologised straight away, i said no problem and just explained that i had been respectful and i expect something in return.
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In daylight I stopped no problem but the guy had a problem because I made a noise and the horse didn't like. It shouldn't have been there in the first place
It’s only an accident black spot because of these idiots that refuse to go to the top of the road to cross.
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I think horses are great..Ok look it's not the horses fault that some owner decides to take a stroll along roads..last time i past one on a road somewhere by Grantham,caught up with me while i was parked up in a lay by shortly afterwards..this woman sat up on her horse waving her arms around at me,you spooked the horse this and that you should slow down more,which i always do..but this woman got my back up..so i just simply said,you got all this countryside around you,empty fields,bridleways'and you want to ride down a B road during a week day with car's and small lorrys driving past..of course the horse is gonna get spooked..same for cyclists i had one last week,road works traffic lights was on red i was the first car behind this cyclist in que..lights turn green,and so what does he do,instead of getting off the road and letting the traffic past,no he decides to carry on peddling through the road works.i could not overtake because it was to narrow,so just had to crawl behind him..by the time we reached the other side of the roadworks the lights had turn green that side,stopping the traffic form moving off because we were still coming through them because this idiot cyclist caused such a tail back of traffic behind him and me..i dont need to explain the looks on those peoples faces at the other end,sitting there on a green light.
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Horses and their riders should stay off the roads full stop. These dirty creatures **** everywhere and cause accidents. There should be a law making their (up their own *****) owners clean their **** up like they do with dog owners.
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I was traveling along a narrow country road and met another car which locked up/skidded because it hit horse **** and nearly hit my car.
I made for the headge cause it looked like the softest thing to hit.
All because of some Stinky Sh!tty horse had decided to take a massive dump in the middle of the road.
i know not all riders are like this as one is a close personal friend, but alot of them seam to be Stuck Up, Toffiee Nosed, Snobby b!tch on her precious god dam horse.
Ill vote for them off the road.
Thats my rant over as well.
I made for the headge cause it looked like the softest thing to hit.
All because of some Stinky Sh!tty horse had decided to take a massive dump in the middle of the road.
i know not all riders are like this as one is a close personal friend, but alot of them seam to be Stuck Up, Toffiee Nosed, Snobby b!tch on her precious god dam horse.
Ill vote for them off the road.
Thats my rant over as well.
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Just don't think it a good idea if your a member of the horsie set, or have wives/girlfriends who are, to frequent a performance car forum.
As they say "horses for courses"!!!
Think i'll just pop over to some environmentalist site and talk about emissions, carbon footprints, miles per gallon, road tax e.t.c, and state that i drive an impreza and see how much sympathy i get
As they say "horses for courses"!!!
Think i'll just pop over to some environmentalist site and talk about emissions, carbon footprints, miles per gallon, road tax e.t.c, and state that i drive an impreza and see how much sympathy i get
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It has always puzzled me that horse riding is allowed on roads with a 60 mph limit, some of which are roads where drivers will be doing the maximum permitted speed. No one seems to think this is asking for trouble ? If you saw someone riding a horse on a motorway with better visibility and only a 10mph higher maximum limit you would consider them insane ! The law regarding horse riders use of the roads is antiquated, lets face it, how many cars are on the roads compared to horses now ?
Looking at it another way, your own instinct for self preservation should tell you that horses and cars don't mix well. Generally it is the horse and rider that tend to come of worst in these collisions, taking the moral high ground and saying I have a legal right to be here is tricky when you are dead or badly injured.
On a finally note, surely if the 'horse lovers' care for their animals that much they wouldn't expose them to the potential danger of riding on the road ?
Looking at it another way, your own instinct for self preservation should tell you that horses and cars don't mix well. Generally it is the horse and rider that tend to come of worst in these collisions, taking the moral high ground and saying I have a legal right to be here is tricky when you are dead or badly injured.
On a finally note, surely if the 'horse lovers' care for their animals that much they wouldn't expose them to the potential danger of riding on the road ?
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Just don't think it a good idea if your a member of the horsie set, or have wives/girlfriends who are, to frequent a performance car forum.
As they say "horses for courses"!!!
Think i'll just pop over to some environmentalist site and talk about emissions, carbon footprints, miles per gallon, road tax e.t.c, and state that i drive an impreza and see how much sympathy i get
As they say "horses for courses"!!!
Think i'll just pop over to some environmentalist site and talk about emissions, carbon footprints, miles per gallon, road tax e.t.c, and state that i drive an impreza and see how much sympathy i get
Just for information if a car hits a horse and it is the horse/horseriders fault.
The car driver can sue the horserider for damages which would come off the insurance for the horse. If the rider has no insurance then the horserider would have to pay the damages out of their own pocket.
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Horses should be in a field or other area away from a road. I've seen a horse get spooked on the road with no cars anywhere near - if there had been a car, then god knows what could have happend. They are un-predictable, which, makes them a danger.
I had some stupied tart chuck a mental at me for warping my old Clio near her on a nag. I didn't do it on purpose, it was dusk on a country road and she had a brown Barbour jacket on and the Nag was brown. Until i was within a few metres of her, she was invisible - totally irresponsible rider, like many (not all) are.
Before anyone jumps for me warping it - i came out of a 30 limit and warped it through second into 3rd and settled at around 60 which was when i spotted the Nag
I had some stupied tart chuck a mental at me for warping my old Clio near her on a nag. I didn't do it on purpose, it was dusk on a country road and she had a brown Barbour jacket on and the Nag was brown. Until i was within a few metres of her, she was invisible - totally irresponsible rider, like many (not all) are.
Before anyone jumps for me warping it - i came out of a 30 limit and warped it through second into 3rd and settled at around 60 which was when i spotted the Nag
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as i previously said my gf has horse/s but i also agree that if the horse is very unstable with loud noises why take them on a road where they will more than likely encounter a car. wimmen
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typical idiot answer that Dic**ead. What makes you think or gives you the right to think all horse owners are up their ****'s. And the reason dog owners are made to pick up after their dogs is that the poo can contain lethal worms that can cause blindness. horse poo is bloody harmless.... Moron. god people like you that stereotype make me SAVAGE.
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I'm both Horse owner and Scooby owner, Fully insured up with both i must add, and would just like to say that i am glad there are a few people on here talking sense.
Some of the comments being made are i admit funny but some are just going too far now.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and noone will ever agree on this 1.
Some of the comments being made are i admit funny but some are just going too far now.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and noone will ever agree on this 1.
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Wow there really are some very stupid people on this forum. While I respect people's opinion and agree that Horses should not be on the road (I also worry about cyclists for there own safety) too not slow down and put the riders safety at risk is simply dumb and shows a level of intelligence not much higher than that of the horse. IMO you are just as bigger danger to other road users and a poor driver.
Well done to those that were just trolling for the day and got me to respond grrr
Well done to those that were just trolling for the day and got me to respond grrr
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Must say one of the only things that makes me very nervous is to encounter a horse on any roads, dont know how they will react as you go past them..
dont hate horses as such, even though i have been thrown of the back of a couple of them, so it seems they dont like me lol
wouldnt want to end up like this pic
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...boy/horse1.jpg
dont hate horses as such, even though i have been thrown of the back of a couple of them, so it seems they dont like me lol
wouldnt want to end up like this pic
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...boy/horse1.jpg
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Yea my gf laughs at me because I recycle my glass bottles and cardboard while my car pollutes far worse.
Just for information if a car hits a horse and it is the horse/horseriders fault.
The car driver can sue the horserider for damages which would come off the insurance for the horse. If the rider has no insurance then the horserider would have to pay the damages out of their own pocket.
Just for information if a car hits a horse and it is the horse/horseriders fault.
The car driver can sue the horserider for damages which would come off the insurance for the horse. If the rider has no insurance then the horserider would have to pay the damages out of their own pocket.
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With no particular axe to grind, I have to say that time moves on and as such you have to see that a horse is now nothing more than a large pet.(excepting police horses.)
So it is just the same as me walking a hyperthetical dog down the road and expecting everyone to get out of my way.
And listening to my colleague who owns horses I'm surprised most of them can even walk, what with all the illness they seem to acquire.
So it is just the same as me walking a hyperthetical dog down the road and expecting everyone to get out of my way.
And listening to my colleague who owns horses I'm surprised most of them can even walk, what with all the illness they seem to acquire.
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sarnyboy : Your photograph at post 102 will be upsetting for some and is uncalled for.
An enlightened quote from Mr. Leigh.
As with any section of the community at large there will always be a percentage of nuggets. I sometimes think this bbs has more than its fair share and this thread demonstrates that, unfortunately.
Similarly there will be competant and sensible horse riders mixed in with the arrogant, superior, self centred owners whose intelligence quotient may not match that of their four legged mount.
My dog runs for about 2 miles most days on one of two rural, almost deserted, routes. Sometimes we do the big one of 4.3 miles. She stays to the nearside and runs on the verge where it is wide enough. We have done this more days than not over the last six and a half years. I follow in the car ten yards or so behind her or if something is approahing ten yards ahead of her. Not because of what she will do, she only stays to the nearside, but just incase their is a strange reaction from the odd car driver. To the dog it is a race and nothing deflects her. Pheasants, deer, rabbits, the odd walker and occassional cyclist. We manage about 20 mph. She is 7years now so just a little slower. If I call her through the open window she comes back like a recoil. We have not had the least problem in nearly seven years until last Friday evening.
Rounding a corner I saw two horses, ridden side by side in the narrow lane and I stopped immediately, two wheels off the tarmac and called Tess back through the open window. She was still on the verge and returned instantaneously. One of the horse women was having difficulty controlling her horse that was now shying and had found reverse gear. Tess sat by my open car window under the "stay" stay command. The lady having difficulty with her horse started shouting something but as she was still 40 yards ahead of me I am not sure exactly what she was yelling but I think she was telling me to get off the road. Without vertical takeoff, not really practical as my nearside wheels were already off the road to make way for the horses when I stopped. A very wet sloping verge bordered the road culminating in a ditch if I remember correctly.
I decided that sitting still allowing the horse riders to sort themselves out was the best course of action and the dog and I sat there for a minute or two until the riders started to pass us, still mounted. As the rider who had been having the difficulty passed, she shouted "Get that dog on a lead" I obviously responded and suggested she did not tell me what to do when she was clearly having problems controlling her horse. This brought a torrent of abuse, swearing, fat boy, ar5ehole, get a life and the V-sign. Ironic I thought. (Harvey Smith's salute to the judges.) I told her that it was people like her who got horse riders a bad name and she then made a big thing of taking my car number and making a phone call. At no time did I swear or loose my cool. Tess was still calmly sat by the car and we set off to complete "our" run.
Now I reflected on this and was far from happy about the behaviour I had experienced. Our route home meant there was a good chance the horse riders would have to pass us again and I stopped, off the road in a field gateway and let Tess and the other dog I had with me run up and down in the field. The other dog, Rossie, is a Blue Croos dog I have had for less than a week. She is untrained and cannot be left to run on the road. Apart from that she is only an 8 month old Staffie and they are not designed for running fast or distance work.
As the riders approached, as expected, the abuse started again. I handed the lady with the mouth (she looked a bit like her horse and actually reminded me of a particular Duchess) my business card and suggested that if she had the least concern regards my manner of driving or my dog(s) behaviour, she knew where to come. Obviously I have heard no more but if she continues to use that piece of road I have no doubt we will meet again.
Live and let live I say.
Wow there really are some very stupid people on this forum.
As with any section of the community at large there will always be a percentage of nuggets. I sometimes think this bbs has more than its fair share and this thread demonstrates that, unfortunately.
Similarly there will be competant and sensible horse riders mixed in with the arrogant, superior, self centred owners whose intelligence quotient may not match that of their four legged mount.
My dog runs for about 2 miles most days on one of two rural, almost deserted, routes. Sometimes we do the big one of 4.3 miles. She stays to the nearside and runs on the verge where it is wide enough. We have done this more days than not over the last six and a half years. I follow in the car ten yards or so behind her or if something is approahing ten yards ahead of her. Not because of what she will do, she only stays to the nearside, but just incase their is a strange reaction from the odd car driver. To the dog it is a race and nothing deflects her. Pheasants, deer, rabbits, the odd walker and occassional cyclist. We manage about 20 mph. She is 7years now so just a little slower. If I call her through the open window she comes back like a recoil. We have not had the least problem in nearly seven years until last Friday evening.
Rounding a corner I saw two horses, ridden side by side in the narrow lane and I stopped immediately, two wheels off the tarmac and called Tess back through the open window. She was still on the verge and returned instantaneously. One of the horse women was having difficulty controlling her horse that was now shying and had found reverse gear. Tess sat by my open car window under the "stay" stay command. The lady having difficulty with her horse started shouting something but as she was still 40 yards ahead of me I am not sure exactly what she was yelling but I think she was telling me to get off the road. Without vertical takeoff, not really practical as my nearside wheels were already off the road to make way for the horses when I stopped. A very wet sloping verge bordered the road culminating in a ditch if I remember correctly.
I decided that sitting still allowing the horse riders to sort themselves out was the best course of action and the dog and I sat there for a minute or two until the riders started to pass us, still mounted. As the rider who had been having the difficulty passed, she shouted "Get that dog on a lead" I obviously responded and suggested she did not tell me what to do when she was clearly having problems controlling her horse. This brought a torrent of abuse, swearing, fat boy, ar5ehole, get a life and the V-sign. Ironic I thought. (Harvey Smith's salute to the judges.) I told her that it was people like her who got horse riders a bad name and she then made a big thing of taking my car number and making a phone call. At no time did I swear or loose my cool. Tess was still calmly sat by the car and we set off to complete "our" run.
Now I reflected on this and was far from happy about the behaviour I had experienced. Our route home meant there was a good chance the horse riders would have to pass us again and I stopped, off the road in a field gateway and let Tess and the other dog I had with me run up and down in the field. The other dog, Rossie, is a Blue Croos dog I have had for less than a week. She is untrained and cannot be left to run on the road. Apart from that she is only an 8 month old Staffie and they are not designed for running fast or distance work.
As the riders approached, as expected, the abuse started again. I handed the lady with the mouth (she looked a bit like her horse and actually reminded me of a particular Duchess) my business card and suggested that if she had the least concern regards my manner of driving or my dog(s) behaviour, she knew where to come. Obviously I have heard no more but if she continues to use that piece of road I have no doubt we will meet again.
Live and let live I say.
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Rounding a corner I saw two horses, ridden side by side in the narrow lane and I stopped immediately, two wheels off the tarmac and called Tess back through the open window. She was still on the verge and returned instantaneously. One of the horse women was having difficulty controlling her horse that was now shying and had found reverse gear. Tess sat by my open car window under the "stay" stay command. The lady having difficulty with her horse started shouting something but as she was still 40 yards ahead of me I am not sure exactly what she was yelling but I think she was telling me to get off the road. Without vertical takeoff, not really practical as my nearside wheels were already off the road to make way for the horses when I stopped. A very wet sloping verge bordered the road culminating in a ditch if I remember correctly.
I decided that sitting still allowing the horse riders to sort themselves out was the best course of action and the dog and I sat there for a minute or two until the riders started to pass us, still mounted. As the rider who had been having the difficulty passed, she shouted "Get that dog on a lead" I obviously responded and suggested she did not tell me what to do when she was clearly having problems controlling her horse. This brought a torrent of abuse, swearing, fat boy, ar5ehole, get a life and the V-sign. Ironic I thought. (Harvey Smith's salute to the judges.) I told her that it was people like her who got horse riders a bad name and she then made a big thing of taking my car number and making a phone call. At no time did I swear or loose my cool. Tess was still calmly sat by the car and we set off to complete "our" run.
Now I reflected on this and was far from happy about the behaviour I had experienced. Our route home meant there was a good chance the horse riders would have to pass us again and I stopped, off the road in a field gateway and let Tess and the other dog I had with me run up and down in the field. The other dog, Rossie, is a Blue Croos dog I have had for less than a week. She is untrained and cannot be left to run on the road. Apart from that she is only an 8 month old Staffie and they are not designed for running fast or distance work.
As the riders approached, as expected, the abuse started again. I handed the lady with the mouth (she looked a bit like her horse and actually reminded me of a particular Duchess) my business card and suggested that if she had the least concern regards my manner of driving or my dog(s) behaviour, she knew where to come. Obviously I have heard no more but if she continues to use that piece of road I have no doubt we will meet again.
Live and let live I say.
Obviously thinks their better than everything else because her mummy and daddy bought her a horse.
Some horseriders i know come out with all these sob stories about how they cant get something they want for their horse because their mummy and daddy wont give them money for it. Get a job comes to mind.
My parents gave me f all but I can managed to buy and run an impreza, if i couldnt afford it i wouldnt have bought it, if only horse riders had the same upbringing. I Hate people who think they are better than everyone else.
Ask any horse rider who bought their horse and 99 out of 100 wont have paid a penny of their own money for it.
I feel better for getting that off my chest.
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Why is it when a horse is pulling a cart with people on it they always seam to be running and never seam to mind passing traffic or noise?
Stick a person on the horse and they are always walking and get spooked much easier
Any horse experts know?
Why is it when a horse is pulling a cart with people on it they always seam to be running and never seam to mind passing traffic or noise?
Stick a person on the horse and they are always walking and get spooked much easier
Any horse experts know?
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Class Would he have to tax and insure it?
Why is it when a horse is pulling a cart with people on it they always seam to be running and never seam to mind passing traffic or noise?
Stick a person on the horse and they are always walking and get spooked much easier
Any horse experts know?
Why is it when a horse is pulling a cart with people on it they always seam to be running and never seam to mind passing traffic or noise?
Stick a person on the horse and they are always walking and get spooked much easier
Any horse experts know?
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Yup but you can also say the same for cyclists and old people in buggies, one of those hits you, your liable.
It needs a change in the law, horses themselves are stated in the highway code as to how to pass them, they dont normally travel great distances on the road, but the rider should have some form of insurance if something shoudl happen.
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Having been connected to the Horse scene and Subaru scene for quite some time, i can confidently say that there is a remarkable parrallel!
I know of a lot of people who own a horse (or two), that they have saved every last penny to buy, the problem is they cant really afford to "run" one, as they aren't cheap to maintain/keep healthy.
There are also people who own horses, who are incapable of controlling them because they dont have the skill, either through lack of natural talent, lack of seat time or lack of training.
Now, if you change the "horse" part of the last two paragraphs for "subaru" then they will still be relevant.
Yes there are idiots out there who give "horse riders" a bad name, and should NOT be on the road, but there are greater proportion of "drivers" out there that give other drivers a bad name!