Felix.

But front line policing deal with more than just this. How about missing from homes, sudden deaths, RTA’s, drink drives – how will they effect your crime detections…? Performances are judged on what we do – not on specific targets.


To deal with the crime – you still need initiative, common sense, leg work, research, enquires. How do the national models help in tracking these people down…?

The police service is run by ACPO (chief police officers with long experience.) Yes, there are civilians in the force, but is this not what you wanted? – more civilianization and hence more officers on the front line. Control rooms are run by control inspectors and sergeants who dictate what priority the jobs fall into. The actual jobs themselves are dealt with by police officers and only they dictate how long they deal with each job. If it ends in a detection and arrest then so be it – but no one cherry picks jobs out for such things. We take on the jobs as and when they come in or deal with the ongoing jobs which we have on our case load – no shoe seller dictates to us what we do

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The only target set by government for ACPO is to achieve a 30% detection of crime and reduce spending. There are no targets set to find persons missing from home. That would be rather daft. The police should and are expected to try to find 100% of all missing persons.
The National Intelligence Model is what ACPO expect forces to use to detect crime and prevent further crimes..Tha Victim / Offender / location triangle.....priorotising prolific offenders SARA...taskings etc.
Chief officers are accountable to Police Authorities. They are not police officers. Senior managers in my force are civilians eg HR manager, business manager, fleet manager, duties manager. Police officers must seek their approval prior to making decisions relating to those roles.
The Supt at my station seeks approval from the business manager for funding for tasks and equipment. The BM often declines funding
The officers replaced by civilians have not been "replaced" Their roles have been replaced on a 1 to 1 basis. My force has not recruited any officers for 10 months and will not recruit any new police officers for the 2008/9 financial year. The civilians I supervise cannot be made to work late or change their shifts. They have a right to strike. PCSO's cannot be ordered to fulfil tasks. They can be asked, however.
In 22 years I can safely say that the police service has never been so mismanaged and wasted so much money on trivia and beaurocrats.
If your force still allows police officers to make decisions based around common sense and sound judgement, enjoy it while it lasts.
For the rest of there's the ballot box and the reassurance that under NL, things cannot get any worse for policing.
The head "shoe seller" in my force, responsible for all staff, gradings, posts and promotionns earns in excess of £80k a year. More than he'd earn at Clarks, and I daresay a 16 yr old Saturday shoe shop assistant would be capable of making more reasoned decisions.
I agree, my friend, that the majority of police officers do the best they can and receive no thanks. That is the nature of the work we do. My issue is with the beaurocrats who prevent us from providing the service we joined to give.

Fuzz

Personally I'd take the said sausage and ram it down little Kyle's throat (and yes I'd then be done for assault )
But if the old doddery fool wanted to press charges over the obvious mannerless ****** that the kid is, then dam right I would want to see the police involved and taking an active role in teaching the little **** a lesson.
Admittedly there should be a little priority attached to whether you should attend the road collision, drunk driver or whatever but the outcome should be the same.
The guilty punished accordingly.
I swear some of you lot just argue the toss just for the sake of it on here.
Like Felix, I've probably got better things to be doing!