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Old 26 May 2008, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by zs_phil
i drove up with azz for my first shootout enjoyed the couple of hours i was there unfortunatley i had to take my children and it was more windy as john prescotts backside and coudnt have a proper look at the cars and trade stand

all in all nice meeting azz (nervous though like a date )and seeing alot of cars that i love
it was ok for a first date although my girlfriend is looking at me stupid as i write this although anything to do with my car or scoobys in general gets a stupid look. Very nice to meet you too
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I was there for the 2nd year in a row. It seemed better organised this year. Weather was a bonus - may be sort out the wind next year though. Better facilties this year (ie, more than just one burger van and one trade stand). The handling track was better managed (ie, two cars at a time). I didn't have to queue for half an hour waiting to sign of either.

Downside was fewer competitors this year it seemed - or they were doing less runs. You had to sometimes wait on the start line of the drag strip for someone to arrive next to you. There seemed to be a lower proportion of standard cars too. Felt like I had the only near-standard classic there. Shame really, as it's so much fun. They need to do something about this next year else it'll just be the serious tuners that turn up (eg, charge less for near standard cars and more for the tuners with all the financial support they have). Heard that some of tuners get invited down so they don't have to pay - not sure if this is true though. But seems odd seen as they're the ones making money out of the event (ie, marketing themselves).

Nice to watch the tuners cars a few times, but after a while they all look and sound the same. Much better to take your own car - especially the handling circuit, which was juts great. Will be there next year if it has a wider range of competitors.

I was told that RWYB was Subaru only. But there was this fire breathing Granada on the 1/4mile - so they must have been letting others on in the afternoon.
Old 26 May 2008, 05:40 PM
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Overall I had a great day.

I have been to the 3 SSO events and this was the best (weather helped)
I had 2 yound children with me, that were entertained all day and my mate (a first timer) was suitably impressed.

Shame about the wind blowing over the cones (easy fix really ) and the digital display on the quarter wasn't working. Also the results on the speakers wasn't loud enough (none on the handling circuit).

As a die hard Impreza fan, I am ashamed to say I prefer TOTB events with it's variety of cars and the carpark.
Old 26 May 2008, 05:45 PM
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the granada was there as a demo car for the interval prior to the drag shootouts, as it usually runs mid -low tens, along with the quick bikes. tbh though i dont know how/why the audi was signed on and allowed to run! investigation ongoing on that one, we made it clear to the timekeepers no rwyb sign-ons for non scoobs!
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Originally Posted by Andy_Cat
Was my second one, went to last years and found the weather a bonus as when i left nr Norwich it was pi$$ing down, but as i reached Newark it was dry
Had money to spend this year as i'm in the middle of a few mods and spoke with Area52 and Apex about various bits, but on the whole the trade stands weren't as varied as last years.
One was charging more at the event than they do online
Didnt know they offered out runs to the showgoers though, but £80!!
Straightliners dont charge that much at events i've attended they've timed would have paid £30ish but hey on the whole a good event, better set-up for the spectators this time
Roll on next year, when i'll enter (fingers crossed)
the straightliners rwyb last year had gone up to £45 and were 1/4m only, not handling as well, and have also now been killed off due to lack of support from the cars- it simply wasnt covering the event costs to run them. There havent been any car event rwyb there this season.
Elvington (and other venues) have put up hire prices and passed that directly onto all users. We feel its still good value at £70 for the amount of runs available, quite a few people seemed to have a few runs then park up leaving the track fairly quiet.
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Originally Posted by azz250478
it was ok for a first date although my girlfriend is looking at me stupid as i write this although anything to do with my car or scoobys in general gets a stupid look. Very nice to meet you too
Yeah, my GF thinks I'm nuts too. On the one hand she was glad she wasn't allowed to be a passenger. On the other hand she was complaining about the wind whilst standing around Can't have it both ways
Old 26 May 2008, 05:58 PM
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i think its down to us guys to get involved and not be put off by the serious tuners clocking mad power and times to be honest im car mad scoobys in pertic but it never even crossed my mind to enter anybody else feel that way or is it just me










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Originally Posted by chrisT.O.T.B.
the straightliners rwyb last year had gone up to £45 and were 1/4m only, not handling as well, and have also now been killed off due to lack of support from the cars- it simply wasnt covering the event costs to run them. There havent been any car event rwyb there this season.
Elvington (and other venues) have put up hire prices and passed that directly onto all users. We feel its still good value at £70 for the amount of runs available, quite a few people seemed to have a few runs then park up leaving the track fairly quiet.

It may be an idea to state that non competitors who wish to run as a RWYB entry can pay £20 for 3 runs on the 1/4 mile section and a further £20 for 3 runs on the handling section. This is how other organisers have it for other competitions like rotorstock/japshow etc at santa pod...

Also if you wanted to add another driver for one entry it was a further £80! In every other major Jap event it is only £15-20 to add a further driver.

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Old 26 May 2008, 06:11 PM
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Well I for one enjoyed it (2nd year competing) admittedly I had a bad day having got in from work at 12 the night before 2 hours power nap then driving over to Elvington my heart wasnt in it for some reason I just wanted to sleep but excuses come cheap.It was well organised you got plenty of runs on the 1/4 mile as well as the handling course so what if companys /tuners are running their cars its having a go what counts however good or bad you are I just hope that the court ruling goes in straightliners favour and events like this continue at Elvington as for the price £70 is cheap for a days motorsport Im usually paying £160 odd quid for my trackdays.Going back to the Elvington issue if we dont keep supporting these kind of events we will all be the losers in the end.
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80 pounds for an extra competitor is a lot.
Old 26 May 2008, 06:37 PM
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i would of liked to of gone, but it is a long way from cambridge, the £15 fee is ok with me, if i went i would of wanted to do the 1/4mile only, but no way would pay the £70+ for it, like has been said, at the pod, they do £20 for unlimited runs.
Old 26 May 2008, 06:58 PM
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Shame there we fewer "tuner" cars this year, some have gone off to TA...
But after a chat with Andy.F, (thanks ! the advice worked a treat !)..... he said he was too busy with the business to get his car finished in time, so it will be out for TOTB(?).
I can't afford a clutch till next year, and my aged reactions won't look good on a quarter.... LOL

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P.S. More trade stands required too !
Old 26 May 2008, 06:59 PM
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This was my 4th Shootout and I thought it was pretty good. Maybe I've become a little jaded due to familiarity with the format, etc, but it seemed less fun than the others.
Aaaah hang on......I took part in two of the others, so that made for a little more excitement!! lol

It did seem a little quieter than the previous events, but my last event at Elvington was Ten Of The Best, and we all know what a following that has!! Maybe my memory banks are comparing to that, rather than previous Shootouts.

I do feel however that £70 or £80 is a little steep for someone with a near standard car that just wants to see how they can do on the quarter mile. Certainly for local people, there's York Dragway (only about 5 miles from Elvington) that do fairly regular RWYB events and they only charge £30 for as many runs as you like.

Also.....where was the top speed run? I'd have been disappointed if I had paid the entry fee, as I'd have liked to have seen how fast my car would go

I'll be back next year though......I love the Scoobs
Old 26 May 2008, 07:01 PM
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My first time. Came from manchester. Thought it was pretty good & would defo go again. Likes been said would have liked more traders
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i think its down to us guys to get involved and not be put off by the serious tuners clocking mad power and times to be honest im car mad scoobys in pertic but it never even crossed my mind to enter anybody else feel that way or is it just me
I cant see how the tuners being there would put people off. Thats the reason there are different classes. I do think all cars from tuners or supported by tuners should be in a completely separate class from us amatuers though. As I drove my car from Birmingham and back but was up against cars trailered to the event, and some having map tweaks after every run, just because I got under 11.5

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To be honest, I think the result was almost a foregone conclusion.

The "Gobstopper" has such financial and technical backing that it is pretty hard for anyone to compete although it's not unbeatable eh Mikee??

The lower "classes" are better competition, as the cars are more evenly matched. As people have said though.....not many 14+ second cars there this year.

I feel that (like Scoobynet), it is now more of a business, rather than being all about the cars and the enthusiasts.

(Infraction??) lol
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I feel that (like Scoobynet), it is now more of a business, rather than being all about the cars and the enthusiasts.

i agree with you but u can expect people to work for nothing.but wat i would say and stress it was way over priced.
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Originally Posted by DaOne
i would of liked to of gone, but it is a long way from cambridge, the £15 fee is ok with me, if i went i would of wanted to do the 1/4mile only, but no way would pay the £70+ for it, like has been said, at the pod, they do £20 for unlimited runs.
The "pod" is a dedicated drag strip though to be fair.

I've only been to 2 SSO's, this year and last, and both times I've entered.

Last year I felt I spent too much time in the car queing earlier in the day for the strip, only had 2 goes on the handling also, and had a long wait for my first go.

This year, I didn't bother showing myself up on the handling circuit, but spent a lot less time queing for the drag strip, even went up by myself a couple of times.

I raced, well I say raced but I was no competition, AndyF and Steven Darley in the Lateral car. I knew I didn't have a chance, but who cares. I think I was still looking at the lights and Andy nearly finished.

My car is pretty standard, 95% of mods done by myself, yet I beat a few higher powered cars. Lashed Steven off the start line, but he passed me very soon after

I really enjoyed myself, it's the taking part that count's if you enter.

Some people may be put off a bit if they have standard cars, and line up against a tuner entry. Why? It's still a scooby, you still have a chance of winning a race.

I would agree that the RWYB entry price was too high, IMO, and needs looking at as well as trade stands.

All in all, it was a great day. Finger crossed the members of the bench making the judgement will agree. The event brings money to the area, same as TOTB.

Micky
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
The "pod" is a dedicated drag strip though to be fair.

I've only been to 2 SSO's, this year and last, and both times I've entered.

Last year I felt I spent too much time in the car queing earlier in the day for the strip, only had 2 goes on the handling also, and had a long wait for my first go.

This year, I didn't bother showing myself up on the handling circuit, but spent a lot less time queing for the drag strip, even went up by myself a couple of times.

I raced, well I say raced but I was no competition, AndyF and Steven Darley in the Lateral car. I knew I didn't have a chance, but who cares. I think I was still looking at the lights and Andy nearly finished.

My car is pretty standard, 95% of mods done by myself, yet I beat a few higher powered cars. Lashed Steven off the start line, but he passed me very soon after

I really enjoyed myself, it's the taking part that count's if you enter.

Some people may be put off a bit if they have standard cars, and line up against a tuner entry. Why? It's still a scooby, you still have a chance of winning a race.

I would agree that the RWYB entry price was too high, IMO, and needs looking at as well as trade stands.

All in all, it was a great day. Finger crossed the members of the bench making the judgement will agree. The event brings money to the area, same as TOTB.

Micky
cant remember how many, but you surely must have surpassed everyone elses run count, you were relentless micky. i watched quite a few, very quick gear changes
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TUNERS SHOULD PAY A HIGHER FEE RIGHTLY SO BECAUSE THEY WILL ALWAYS GET THE MONEY BACK THROUGH BUSINESS its more or less an chance to advertise.but for normal peeps it should of ben a lot a less may be have 30 quid fee for the strip and 30 for the track if u wanted to do both events then i think 50 pounds would of ben fair and you would of saw a lot mor car cars on the strip/track rather than parked up in car parks. any one AGREE?
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The day could be good if run right,
The handling circuit was far to tight in places,
The cones would move about thus making it impossible to see which direction you need to be going,
Why can't they mark a track out properly instead of silly cones,
Its like snow blindness,
The quarters were about 6mph down on the terminals as it was last year for some reason with a massive tail wind
I think it should look to moving it for next year to a proper sprint track,
It needs a proper screen to display with a laptop to update times instantly,,

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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
cant remember how many, but you surely must have surpassed everyone elses run count, you were relentless micky. i watched quite a few, very quick gear changes
I 'only' did 19 runs, Andy. Some did close on 50

You should have come and said hello, I was wearing a normal top, not like last years NBO.
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
I 'only' did 19 runs, Andy. Some did close on 50

You should have come and said hello, I was wearing a normal top, not like last years NBO.
if you check out the following thread, you may not have recognised me dear boy
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Originally Posted by DaOne
i would of liked to of gone, but it is a long way from cambridge, the £15 fee is ok with me, if i went i would of wanted to do the 1/4mile only, but no way would pay the £70+ for it, like has been said, at the pod, they do £20 for unlimited runs.

Stop being a wuss!! I trailered the RA there and back & I'm from B St E leaving at 04:30 in the morning! Do you want a lift next year? Besides, scoobs go round corners so do the handling circuit - any fool can drive fast in a straight line
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Originally Posted by wrxginge
I cant see how the tuners being there would put people off. Thats the reason there are different classes. I do think all cars from tuners or supported by tuners should be in a completely separate class from us amatuers though. As I drove my car from Birmingham and back but was up against cars trailered to the event, and some having map tweaks after every run, just because I got under 11.5
I trailered my RA as its actually cheaper to hire a trailer than to pay the petrol for the RA to drive there & back Plus I can get all my tyres & bits in the volvo & if **** happened, wouldn't have to ar$e about waiting for the AA to sort it out & get me home!
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Originally Posted by evo north
The day could be good if run right,
The handling circuit was far to tight in places,
The cones would move about thus making it impossible to see which direction you need to be going,
Why can't they mark a track out properly instead of silly cones,
Its like snow blindness,
The quarters were about 6mph down on the terminals as it was last year for some reason with a massive tail wind
I think it should look to moving it for next year to a proper sprint track,
It needs a proper screen to display with a laptop to update times instantly,,
The good thing about tight circuits is that it reduces the advantage the big power boys have over the lesser mortals - just look at the standard car that came 3rd (ok driven by a 7st racing car driver) and my RA was beating cars with much more power - crikey, I was less than 2 seconds behind Simon De Banke in the Scoobynet Spec C. That makes it more fun and its more about skill than outright power as in the 1/4s.
To be fair, cones moving was not the organisers fault & they are easy to see when driving round as opposed to taped lines. Who was it who drove into the pits with 2 stuck under his car?
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
Stop being a wuss!! I trailered the RA there and back & I'm from B St E leaving at 04:30 in the morning! Do you want a lift next year? Besides, scoobs go round corners so do the handling circuit - any fool can drive fast in a straight line
i didnt leave that early (7:00) and was there in a good time from Thefhood
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Originally Posted by Andy_Cat
i didnt leave that early (7:00) and was there in a good time from Thefhood
180 miles with scoob on a trailer @ max 60mph means 3 hours. Gates open 07:30, briefing 09:00 etc. Gives me time to get in, do what I need to do (take car off trailer ) and have some bloody breakfast without being pressured.
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Originally Posted by Puff The Magic Wagon!
180 miles with scoob on a trailer @ max 60mph means 3 hours. Gates open 07:30, briefing 09:00 etc. Gives me time to get in, do what I need to do (take car off trailer ) and have some bloody breakfast without being pressured.
Breakfast what was that?

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superb day, only thing i thought was the handling course was so far away you couldnt really see much, the chicken burgers were the don, had 4


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