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Old 07 June 2008, 10:35 AM
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In our old local a pint of calsberg is £3.20 a pint of coke (on draught) is £3.10
Old 07 June 2008, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
I sell coke in 200ml bottles. If you ask me for a pint I will give you three of them and charge you for 3 of them. £1.50 each. What else would you expect ?
Is your name Dick Turpin?

I'm sorry but there's no way I'd pay that for a pint of coke, if a barman cheerfully tried to £4.50 for a pint of coke I'd be asking what medication he's on, then walking out and going elsewhere.
Old 07 June 2008, 11:22 AM
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A bottle of coke costs me .33 pence I sell that for 1.50 after VAT that leaves me 1.24 subtract .33 that is .91 pence profit on a coke. Hardly going to break the bank is it. Most pubs now are working to 80 percent GP's on food. ie £2 cost of of food they sell for 11.70. This is not being a rip off this is inflation massively increasing the cost of doing business.
Its funny how people love getting more money and higher wages because of inflation but they never like the knock on effect when it means they have to actually spend some money. All the millionaires on scoobynet cannot afford £1.50 for a glass of coke but seem to think they deserve a massive salary themselves.
Old 07 June 2008, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
I've had a go at pubs (usually independant) that try selling coke in those tiny mixer bottles (afterall, the small bottles are meant to be for mixers). FFS that barely 1/3 of a pint, yet they charge the same prices as chain pubs who sell it in 14 fl/oz measures - which is well over half a pint.

So I have great satisfaction of refusing the drink...after its been opened of course.
The draft soft drinks are ****e thats why some do not ike to sell them. How much liquid do you need in a drink 200ml is a perfect measure for a glass of coke. Chain pubs pay half the price of independants for stock, have a differnet business model, have 2 staf per 100 customers and are full of scumbags.
With regard to refusing the drink luckily for me I have an upmarket place so don't have to deal with cheapskate childish gypsies that cannot afford to buy a coke.
Old 07 June 2008, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDriverWannabe
I know there are rules & regulations for pubs too follow in relation too spirits and alcohol measures but are soft drinks not included ?

Just took my parents out for a meal, i got the drinks in. Asked for a pint of fosters for me dad, orange juice for me mother & a pint of coke for me, as i was driving.

I got the reply sorry we dont sell pints of coke we only do one measure. The glass of coke she gave me was one of them daft slimline things which was 3 quarters of the way full as i said i didnt want ice.

Really begrudges me considering the coke was more expensive than the pint of Fosters.

Trying too do the sensible thing not drink driving but it would be cheeper too buy a pint of lager.
This is easily remedied.

Just buy a 2l bottle of coke before hand and take it with you. On more than one occasion I have resorted to this. I also do the same when I go to the cinema, plus some other goodies

You do get some strange looks but so be it.


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Old 07 June 2008, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDriverWannabe
It was from a tap not bottles. Is it a pub or a shop you have ?. Dont think i have been in a pub that doesnt have soft drinks on draft. Do you sell pints made up out of 275ml bottles of lager ?

But i cant see why if you can buy a half or a pint of lager etc from tap why cant you do the same for soft drinks.
One premises is a wine bar the other a restaurant. Draft syrups are not the same as a proper bottles hence why no decent restaurants sell draft soft drinks.
Large bottles are not suitable for a whole host of reasons and I sell bottled beer as well. Draft beer has to be sold at volume and the lines and pumps cleaned regularly to maintain a high standard of quality. As most of my customers drink wine I sell bottles of beer as the low volume of draft sales would reduce the quality.
Old 07 June 2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
The draft soft drinks are ****e thats why some do not ike to sell them. How much liquid do you need in a drink 200ml is a perfect measure for a glass of coke. Chain pubs pay half the price of independants for stock, have a differnet business model, have 2 staf per 100 customers and are full of scumbags.
With regard to refusing the drink luckily for me I have an upmarket place so don't have to deal with cheapskate childish gypsies that cannot afford to buy a coke.


I think I've met you....you don't run the Gate at Bournheath do you?

Money is not the issue; Value for money is though.

You'd be better off going to the cash and carry and buying tins (don't let the brewery find out though ).
Old 07 June 2008, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
A bottle of coke costs me .33 pence I sell that for 1.50 after VAT that leaves me 1.24 subtract .33 that is .91 pence profit on a coke. Hardly going to break the bank is it. Most pubs now are working to 80 percent GP's on food. ie £2 cost of of food they sell for 11.70. This is not being a rip off this is inflation massively increasing the cost of doing business.
Its funny how people love getting more money and higher wages because of inflation but they never like the knock on effect when it means they have to actually spend some money. All the millionaires on scoobynet cannot afford £1.50 for a glass of coke but seem to think they deserve a massive salary themselves.
Still sounds like a rip-off to me!

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Old 07 June 2008, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Still sounds like a rip-off to me!

Les
AT 91 pence profit per coke you think that is a rip off ? I would have to sell 900 cokes a day to break even and you think I am ripping people off ?
Old 07 June 2008, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
The draft soft drinks are ****e thats why some do not ike to sell them. How much liquid do you need in a drink 200ml is a perfect measure for a glass of coke. Chain pubs pay half the price of independants for stock, have a differnet business model, have 2 staf per 100 customers and are full of scumbags.
With regard to refusing the drink luckily for me I have an upmarket place so don't have to deal with cheapskate childish gypsies that cannot afford to buy a coke.
Sounds to me like you run a rich tossers place, and people who spend their mid life crisis money on convertible ferraris, high class hookers, celebrity stylist combovers and awful "with it" clothing are not going to scoff at paying almost ******* fiver for a coke!

Where i live it 4.80 for TWO pints of san miguel or fosters, and i live two minutes away from prestbury, which is the richest village in the uk, even there it is only a fiver for two stellas!

No offence to you intended, just your pricing policies!
Old 07 June 2008, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
With regard to refusing the drink luckily for me I have an upmarket place so don't have to deal with cheapskate childish gypsies that cannot afford to buy a coke.
It sounds like you're lucky that your customers are rich idiots who don't mind getting fleeced. Fair play to you if that's the case.

That said, rich people aren't usually rich because they pi$$ their money away, they're usually rich because they aren't stupid with it. Some of the richest people I know are also some of the worlds tightest sods too.

Of course there are always exceptions.

I'm not rich, but then I'm not poor either. I choose to not go to the pub and spend £4.50 on glasses of coke, and instead spend the money on other stuff, like nice watches, holidays in Europe/Australia.
Old 07 June 2008, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
The draft soft drinks are ****e thats why some do not ike to sell them. How much liquid do you need in a drink 200ml is a perfect measure for a glass of coke. Chain pubs pay half the price of independants for stock, have a differnet business model, have 2 staf per 100 customers and are full of scumbags.
With regard to refusing the drink luckily for me I have an upmarket place so don't have to deal with cheapskate childish gypsies that cannot afford to buy a coke.
I suspect that Luan Pra Bang's public house may soon be changing it's name: from whatever it is currently, to the increasingly popular Lease for Sale. I wonder how many of his customers will care?
Old 07 June 2008, 04:39 PM
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that is not how it works simon ;-)


in any trade you have people catering for all different types of customers, he is catering for the ones who dont mind spending a bit more, and not having to worry about some goon in a football shirt swearing 24/7 while getting tanked up on smart price lager ;-)

the people who think "ooo thats a rip off" are probably the exact type of person he does not want in anyway, its a win win situation, as long as the place is marketed well enough to draw in the type of people he really wants.

i can relate to this in a BIG way, as the more i keep tweaking our valeting price list up, the nicer the cars that come to us for work, the old battered bangers have stopped coming, instead they are thinking "ooo thats a rip off" and they are going onto the various other competitors who are working like pigs, for pennies.

nothing better then driving past the local competitor doing battered old vans and spending 4 hours on them for 35quid lol

shame he went bust last month mind LOL
Old 07 June 2008, 05:10 PM
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yess but there is also a limit, to be honest if someone charged me £4.50 for a coke i would never go back, but i would pay on the day

if you ( micky ) doubled the price of a car wash most would pay on the day but never come back again

BTW i charge 70p for a coke but it's not a high class wine bar, horses for corses i supose

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Old 07 June 2008, 05:36 PM
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true, doubleing the price overnight is out of the question as you would kill any place, but raising prices year on year works (the prices of the carwash are raised year on year, with more people coming every year), you do lose the odd one that drifts away but if you do it right, every one that drifts away is replaced by a "nicer" one

just look at that bloke charging 5k for a car clean that was on top gear (or 5th gear)

the ideal situation is to start from scratch with higher prices and market it well enough so people que up from the start, but thats a different game, and drifting away from the point in why some places charge more for products

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Old 07 June 2008, 07:00 PM
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pubs and car washes, two of the first things people will stop spending money on when the economy forces tightening of belts?
Old 07 June 2008, 09:06 PM
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no idea, figures are up again so far this year, broke some records last month for figures, pretty much all the sites across the uk did, not affecting us at the moment, but its possible, i do have "fail safes" if required in that i would just lay off staff and start doing more hours myself.

i am not worried in the slightest at the moment, i dont owe any debts, it would take something quite significant to worry me regards that kind of thing!!
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Generally a pub/restaurant will put it's prices up with each Budget and then aldo during the year to match inflation, plus a few more pence to round the price up.
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Lu pra bang - why don't you do a bit of blue sky thinking from the helicoper view etc etc and sell soft drinks at C&C cost...... we used to do this in a hotel bar, and you would get people driving themselves and three mates 25 miles each way so that the driver didn't get stiffed. Then we started doing free soft drinks and free stew. (Cost to us about 10p for soft drinks and 5p for a bowl of stew) - When we chardges full price for everything, we would lift maybe 300 quid on a Friday (very small bar) - When we introduced the freebies, whe would lift 2k.

However, if you are being run by a brewery, then you are merely staff and have no choice, so maybe look at getting a bar that you actually own and run instead of being a glorified barman
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Originally Posted by GC8
I suspect that Luan Pra Bang's public house may soon be changing it's name: from whatever it is currently, to the increasingly popular Lease for Sale. I wonder how many of his customers will care?
Its a free hold so when I go under it will be a repo. I can't help but think that 1.50 for a glass of coke won't be the reason why though.
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
that is not how it works simon ;-)


in any trade you have people catering for all different types of customers, he is catering for the ones who dont mind spending a bit more, and not having to worry about some goon in a football shirt swearing 24/7 while getting tanked up on smart price lager ;-)

the people who think "ooo thats a rip off" are probably the exact type of person he does not want in anyway, its a win win situation, as long as the place is marketed well enough to draw in the type of people he really wants.

i can relate to this in a BIG way, as the more i keep tweaking our valeting price list up, the nicer the cars that come to us for work, the old battered bangers have stopped coming, instead they are thinking "ooo thats a rip off" and they are going onto the various other competitors who are working like pigs, for pennies.

nothing better then driving past the local competitor doing battered old vans and spending 4 hours on them for 35quid lol

shame he went bust last month mind LOL
Mick, youve turned into a right capitalist.
Old 08 June 2008, 12:02 PM
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Micky seems to have quite a good business sense. Seems clear why Micky works for himself and lots on scoobynet work for other people.
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I just do their accounts (freelance, of course)
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