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Old 23 June 2008, 06:26 PM
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Well i hope your happy with youself, now that you split up the family unit, the poor little kids, that through no fault of thier own, will now be condemmed to a life of institutionalization,and will now probably be in and out of care for the rest of thier lives.. untill they become fully fledged criminals.
Ah i had you going there for a moment! and im sure these are the kind of thoughts that have been going through your head.
Unfortunatly that is the path they were destined to follow ultimatley with parents like that, they were already a problem and at least this way they are out of your way and away from thier parents.
And just maybe somewhere along the way someone will be able to get through to them and show them that there is another side to life and teach them some respect along with the other values that thier parents obviously don't posses.
It's not your fault or responsibility,
I blame the parents and grandparents and ultimatley society for not taking responsibility for these kind of people, and allowing them to consistantly throught two or more generations to not equip the less fortunate among us with the neccessary skills to be good parents..
In other countries if you dont pass the end of year exam you repeat the year untill you do! and are given the support to do so but here we just release these people on the rest of society, thereby abdicating responsibility.
which costs alot more in the long run.. whats the cost of keeping these kids in care for the next 11years???
Old 23 June 2008, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jiffthejiffmanjaffa
I bought my house as one of 8 in a quiet cul-de sac, with my rear garden overlooking a corn field.

When I bought it I was told by the developer that at the end of the corn field a recreation ground was going to be built, with cricket clud, park and basketball court.

About two years later, the park still hadn't been built and so I contacted the council to find they had changed they minds and were going to sell it and build more houses.

The residents of the cul de sac and I all appealed, and as usally next to nothing happened, the council built a basket ball court to make up for it, and went right ahead and built 25 nea homes destorying our view and private garden.

Now I have a neighbour whose home is built slightly on a hill who just by standing can look right into my garden, even though I've got 7' tall fencing.

Now this is wahere my problems start, I can live with the park issue as I was reimbursed by the council the cost of my house now the nearby park is no longer going to be built, something I wasn't expecting, but now my garden is being overlooked it just ticks me off.

I don't suppose it would be so bad, but the neighbours are th creme de la creme of people and have to use F**K and C**T as a full stop in every sentance.

They also have two wonderful little 7 years old boys, who don't go to school, swear as much as the parents, climb and break my fence all day long and have beaten up three of the cul de sac families kids.

It is very much becoming the cul de sac verse the family from hell. Why can't they be like the rest of the people who moved into the new homes, keep themselves to themselves, say goodmorning once in a while and have a friendly nod.

Anyway, not by me I will state first, the family from hell have been reported to the council, social services and the police and nothing at present is being done. Evidence is being gather for ABC, ASBO's and potential evictions.

The other day I was having a BBQ with a load of the neighbours from the cul de sac, and the two little boys from the family from hell decded to jump up over my fence and sit on my shed and from there beg for food, which was given to them, which they promptly spat out and said "Your food is Sh*t, my mum cooks better food them you"

I decide to pop out and buy some anti-vandal paint, as this was not the first time the little darlings had sat on my shed. I will mention I have asked them to get down and spoken with the parents for what good it did me.

So I've set about coating the top of my fence and shed with a nice liberal coat of this black thick tar paint.

And sure enough the little buggers tried to climb my fence and st on my shed, and sure enough got covered in the paint.

About an hour later Mummy came round, and as I opened the door without saying a word she has shouted at the top of her voice every swear word under the sun, with no content at all. I just stood there and didn't say a thing. After a while she slowed stopped having nothing more to say, to which I asked " So whats the matter"

Long story short she wasn't happy about the paint, "You f**King C**t you should have put up a sign, they wouldn't have got up there is they'd known.

"A sign, to warn them about the paint? " I asked

"What other F**king sign do you think I mean you ********"

"Like the warning letter I posted to the neighbours about a week ago, saying I planned to put anti-vandal paint up due to damage to my fence, like the sign that is ontop of my fence and visable from you garden, those sort of signs? do you mean"

Funny enough the conversation changed from that paint.

"I'm gonna report you to the police"

"Like the crime preventation police officer, who told me to put the paint up and leafet the area, and who advised me where to place the warning sign in my garden?"

After this I couldn't help but feel a sense of victory, which was short lived. As the next day I find out mummy went home. Hit one of the boys, breaking his nose, and Dad responded by beating living hell out of Mum.

Both boys have now been taken into care, Dad is on remand and mum has been moved somewhere up north. The house has been reposessed and excellant neighbours have now moved in.

I can't help but feel a sense of guilt ove this situation.

Was I out of order???
You werent out of order in the slightest. Maybe you could have first asked/told the parents to stop their kids from climbing your fence, but if the Dad is an aggresive tw*t, and you cant deal with that, it would have been difficult.

They shouldnt have been climbing the fence anyway, so you havnt done a thing wrong. The parents didnt show anyone any respect(by the sounds of it annoying you on several occasions) and now they have got what they deserve - no respect and a f*cked up life...although it was probably worse before.

These are the kind of people that bring up the knife weilding chavs - that do nothing in life besides trying to prove how hard they are. You are doing everyone a favour.

Alan
Old 23 June 2008, 09:07 PM
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The only error I can find is that you have no video footage.
Unfortunately it is happening tooo much in this fair land.
I have an ASBO trainee next door,10 I think he is and @ last as a respite he spends weekdays @ a speshall skool,but we know as soon as he's home.
I can understand what you went through as his parents,which I've sort of always known are completely useless.
He's outside with his not-so-bad siblings causing havoc.
Put bricks in the road,walking in front of cars the usual things kids do to amuse themselves,well that's what his parents say.
Last straw last year when he and a few of his m8's made a ramp for their bmx's out of 1/4 ply,of course it broke and he alone decided it would be good to toss it all about the place,fk nose what his mammy and daddy were doing but I felt compelled to knock on their door and tell them to take control of the little ****.
I've got a catologue of things he's done,how come the specials kids seem more advanced in certain fields,i.e swearing,1 instance I can recall did make me chuckle(yes I know) "dad,dad" "WOT" "you fat *******",this when he was about 8.
Another one he was bouncing on his trampoline and the neighbours the other side were of mixed race,everytime he bounced and they came into view he shouted out "oi Pa*i";soon after he got naffed off with the trampoline and took a bread knife too it;what did his dad say?" I've moved the knives so he can't reach them"...punishment..that's what we get for being normal.
First time I spoke to him he said where's that little girl(my daughetr 2 @ the time),I said indoors why? He replied that he wanted to punch her in the face
The fear is what is he going to be when he's older and the teen hormones kick in....

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Old 23 June 2008, 09:26 PM
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Cracking result!

Well done.

We live out in the sticks and, Wifelet caught a couple of "kids" in our Garden.

What are doing in our Garden?

Lost our ball Missus, they replied.

Our Dogs are bouncing off the windows to "welcome" them.

To get into our Garden, they had "slipped" a Padlock off the gates to get in.
( you only think of these things afterwards).

They were very lucky the dogs were inside.

Turns out, these"kids" were on a scouting mission for their parents.

They had illegally parked in the Fields by us.

Several houses were Burgled over the next 2 days they stayed. (surprisingly enough ours wasn't)

Plod said, no evidence etc.

They moved on a couple of days later, before the Council served papers on them.

Guess what?

No houses burgled since they have gone.

A coincidence????

Any way these "Kids" were smart and clearly were on the look out for easy targets.

Good result, and fair play to you using your head and not going off on ONE.

Well done!

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Old 23 June 2008, 10:35 PM
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NO YOU ARE NOT OUT OF ORDER
Fair play to you and the neighbours
Old 23 June 2008, 10:53 PM
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Two things about this thread worth thinking about....

The first thing is that you said that the dad is about 5 ft 1 and 9 stone so he obviously suffers from a syndrome known in my profession as "L M S" which is LITTLE MAN SYNDROME. He will be an angry little jerk who is only hard enough to tw@t his wife or girlfriend so he's probably been doing it for years anyway so got his just reward - NOT YOUR FAULT

Secondly Social Services would not put the kids in care just for this mate. Things have to be EXTREMELY bad and I mean bad for kids to be taken off their parents. It would probably make your hair curl if I gave you examples where kids are STILL with their family so there has obviously been a long catalogue of things so again its NOT YOUR FAULT.

Hats off to you. It's a pity there isn't many other people in this world that will stand up to these w"nkers.

Think of it this way - Sh"tbags have about 5 kids to five different fathers. These kids grow up and have five more and so on and so on. Eventually these sponging scummy b"stards will take over the good decent hard working respectful people. Just food for thought!!

Rest easy my friend - you are a star!!!
Old 23 June 2008, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by urdad
The only error I can find is that you have no video footage.
Unfortunately it is happening tooo much in this fair land.
I have an ASBO trainee next door,10 I think he is and @ last as a respite he spends weekdays @ a speshall skool,but we know as soon as he's home.
I can understand what you went through as his parents,which I've sort of always known are completely useless.
He's outside with his not-so-bad siblings causing havoc.
Put bricks in the road,walking in front of cars the usual things kids do to amuse themselves,well that's what his parents say.
Last straw last year when he and a few of his m8's made a ramp for their bmx's out of 1/4 ply,of course it broke and he alone decided it would be good to toss it all about the place,fk nose what his mammy and daddy were doing but I felt compelled to knock on their door and tell them to take control of the little ****.
I've got a catologue of things he's done,how come the specials kids seem more advanced in certain fields,i.e swearing,1 instance I can recall did make me chuckle(yes I know) "dad,dad" "WOT" "you fat *******",this when he was about 8.
Another one he was bouncing on his trampoline and the neighbours the other side were of mixed race,everytime he bounced and they came into view he shouted out "oi Pa*i";soon after he got naffed off with the trampoline and took a bread knife too it;what did his dad say?" I've moved the knives so he can't reach them"...punishment..that's what we get for being normal.
First time I spoke to him he said where's that little girl(my daughetr 2 @ the time),I said indoors why? He replied that he wanted to punch her in the face
The fear is what is he going to be when he's older and the teen hormones kick in....

A parent probably.
Old 23 June 2008, 11:44 PM
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Couldn't give a t0ss about the parents, but you might just have done the kids the biggest favour of their lives. They would have ended up just like their parents had the status quo continued. At least they now have a chance.

There was no perfect solution to this problem. But you chose the best one. Well done for such a methodical, professional approach to the situation.
Old 24 June 2008, 07:21 AM
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Top result mate. Don't feel guilty feel elated that you can now get on with your life.

Now will somebody remind me why I don't live in the UK anymore? Ah that's it the Government and Police don't give a toss about hard working decent people.

Well done
Old 24 June 2008, 10:54 AM
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Quality thread - this has put a real smile on my face today

Well done to you fella.

I fecking hate chavs.
Old 24 June 2008, 11:38 AM
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I'm going to be slightly controversial here and state that I reckon you *know* you weren't out of order.

I also reckon you're quietly proud of your own actions, but DO feel a twinge of regret over the assault and the kids.

I think you posted on the forum for a vote of confidence as you:
wanted to let people know about what happened
see what the general reaction was, so you could work through your own conscience.

Saying that - I echo the sentiments shown above, you were restrained, acted within the law and ensured all processes were fully followed.

I would see you as the catalyst for the change that occured, and IMHO applaud you for your public-mindedness.
Old 24 June 2008, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jiffthejiffmanjaffa
I bought my house as one of 8 in a quiet cul-de sac, with my rear garden overlooking a corn field.

When I bought it I was told by the developer that at the end of the corn field a recreation ground was going to be built, with cricket clud, park and basketball court.

About two years later, the park still hadn't been built and so I contacted the council to find they had changed they minds and were going to sell it and build more houses.

The residents of the cul de sac and I all appealed, and as usally next to nothing happened, the council built a basket ball court to make up for it, and went right ahead and built 25 nea homes destorying our view and private garden.

Now I have a neighbour whose home is built slightly on a hill who just by standing can look right into my garden, even though I've got 7' tall fencing.

Now this is wahere my problems start, I can live with the park issue as I was reimbursed by the council the cost of my house now the nearby park is no longer going to be built, something I wasn't expecting, but now my garden is being overlooked it just ticks me off.

I don't suppose it would be so bad, but the neighbours are th creme de la creme of people and have to use F**K and C**T as a full stop in every sentance.

They also have two wonderful little 7 years old boys, who don't go to school, swear as much as the parents, climb and break my fence all day long and have beaten up three of the cul de sac families kids.

It is very much becoming the cul de sac verse the family from hell. Why can't they be like the rest of the people who moved into the new homes, keep themselves to themselves, say goodmorning once in a while and have a friendly nod.

Anyway, not by me I will state first, the family from hell have been reported to the council, social services and the police and nothing at present is being done. Evidence is being gather for ABC, ASBO's and potential evictions.

The other day I was having a BBQ with a load of the neighbours from the cul de sac, and the two little boys from the family from hell decded to jump up over my fence and sit on my shed and from there beg for food, which was given to them, which they promptly spat out and said "Your food is Sh*t, my mum cooks better food them you"

I decide to pop out and buy some anti-vandal paint, as this was not the first time the little darlings had sat on my shed. I will mention I have asked them to get down and spoken with the parents for what good it did me.

So I've set about coating the top of my fence and shed with a nice liberal coat of this black thick tar paint.

And sure enough the little buggers tried to climb my fence and st on my shed, and sure enough got covered in the paint.

About an hour later Mummy came round, and as I opened the door without saying a word she has shouted at the top of her voice every swear word under the sun, with no content at all. I just stood there and didn't say a thing. After a while she slowed stopped having nothing more to say, to which I asked " So whats the matter"

Long story short she wasn't happy about the paint, "You f**King C**t you should have put up a sign, they wouldn't have got up there is they'd known.

"A sign, to warn them about the paint? " I asked

"What other F**king sign do you think I mean you ********"

"Like the warning letter I posted to the neighbours about a week ago, saying I planned to put anti-vandal paint up due to damage to my fence, like the sign that is ontop of my fence and visable from you garden, those sort of signs? do you mean"

Funny enough the conversation changed from that paint.

"I'm gonna report you to the police"

"Like the crime preventation police officer, who told me to put the paint up and leafet the area, and who advised me where to place the warning sign in my garden?"

After this I couldn't help but feel a sense of victory, which was short lived. As the next day I find out mummy went home. Hit one of the boys, breaking his nose, and Dad responded by beating living hell out of Mum.

Both boys have now been taken into care, Dad is on remand and mum has been moved somewhere up north. The house has been reposessed and excellant neighbours have now moved in.

I can't help but feel a sense of guilt ove this situation.

Was I out of order???
I'd say you were spot on mate, nothing to be guilty about at all.
Old 24 June 2008, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by p1mark
I think you are living in another time dimension from me as things seem to happen rather quickly there....

"The other day I was having a BBQ with a load of the neighbours from the cul de sac"

Then within a few days -

You have painted the shed fence, both boys are in care, mum moved, house repossesed, excellent neighbours moved in.

Thats some impressive work by the authorities and council, not to mention the estate agents.
I agree that something smells 'funny' about this story.
It was all ticking along well until....the hyper accelerated ending
I'm not saying it's not true but, is this an abridged version?
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Nobody picked up on the bit about being reimbursed the cost of his house?

Sounds like a wind up post to me
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Well done,
You did the right thing, you could not possibly have known that that **** was going to take it out on one of the kids and wife. ***** like this who beat up children and women should servel a min of several years and get enforced anger managemt treatment. Breaking a childs arm is tantamount to child abuse and should be treated as such.

You may well have saved them from worse.

Big man beat up his little kids and wife - io notice he did not go for you. What a POS.
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Originally Posted by jiffthejiffmanjaffa

Both boys have now been taken into care, Dad is on remand and mum has been moved somewhere up north. The house has been reposessed and excellant neighbours have now moved in.
Result!

You get some absolute retards sometimes. When we first bought our house the agents specifically said no don't worry none of the homes will be for social types. What he didn't say was that if someone buys a few at a time to bung social types in its no fault of theirs.

Needless to say someone bought 3 of the houses at the same time and didn't give a monkeys who the council put in there. Sadly my mrs knew the bird in one of them and became friends. Cue everytime they got drunk and started beating each other up, the kids would be knocking on our door to ring the police - cue me getting **** for getting involved.

Thankfully it didn't last long and the current tennants are reasonably well behaved.
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Nobody picked up on the bit about being reimbursed the cost of his house?

Sounds like a wind up post to me
This is a real story, I had the battle with the council over this and Red Rose, and it was agreed I was mis sold the house, and so owed a degree of compensation.

Don't get me wrong, I would have bought the house anyway I'm sure. But thats not the point is it.

As for the time difference, forgive but I wanted to keep the tale flowing and to the point, as it was I think I waffled a bit too much.
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
Nobody picked up on the bit about being reimbursed the cost of his house?

Sounds like a wind up post to me
Not really an uncommon occurrence, A family round the corner from my previous house were paid about 300k when the developers behind his house, deviated from the proposed plans and ended up with the houses behind being 2 foot higher and encroaching onto his land by a 4 feet along the length of the back fence.

How he didn't notice the fence thing at the time of the build i will never know, but still a nice payout.
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why do people keep quoting the entire OP??

that paint seems to have done the trick, easier to get than a shotgun also
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Originally Posted by jiffthejiffmanjaffa
I bought my house as one of 8 in a quiet cul-de sac, with my rear garden overlooking a corn field.

When I bought it I was told by the developer that at the end of the corn field a recreation ground was going to be built, with cricket clud, park and basketball court.

About two years later, the park still hadn't been built and so I contacted the council to find they had changed they minds and were going to sell it and build more houses.

The residents of the cul de sac and I all appealed, and as usally next to nothing happened, the council built a basket ball court to make up for it, and went right ahead and built 25 nea homes destorying our view and private garden.

Now I have a neighbour whose home is built slightly on a hill who just by standing can look right into my garden, even though I've got 7' tall fencing.

Now this is wahere my problems start, I can live with the park issue as I was reimbursed by the council the cost of my house now the nearby park is no longer going to be built, something I wasn't expecting, but now my garden is being overlooked it just ticks me off.

I don't suppose it would be so bad, but the neighbours are th creme de la creme of people and have to use F**K and C**T as a full stop in every sentance.

They also have two wonderful little 7 years old boys, who don't go to school, swear as much as the parents, climb and break my fence all day long and have beaten up three of the cul de sac families kids.

It is very much becoming the cul de sac verse the family from hell. Why can't they be like the rest of the people who moved into the new homes, keep themselves to themselves, say goodmorning once in a while and have a friendly nod.

Anyway, not by me I will state first, the family from hell have been reported to the council, social services and the police and nothing at present is being done. Evidence is being gather for ABC, ASBO's and potential evictions.

The other day I was having a BBQ with a load of the neighbours from the cul de sac, and the two little boys from the family from hell decded to jump up over my fence and sit on my shed and from there beg for food, which was given to them, which they promptly spat out and said "Your food is Sh*t, my mum cooks better food them you"

I decide to pop out and buy some anti-vandal paint, as this was not the first time the little darlings had sat on my shed. I will mention I have asked them to get down and spoken with the parents for what good it did me.

So I've set about coating the top of my fence and shed with a nice liberal coat of this black thick tar paint.

And sure enough the little buggers tried to climb my fence and st on my shed, and sure enough got covered in the paint.

About an hour later Mummy came round, and as I opened the door without saying a word she has shouted at the top of her voice every swear word under the sun, with no content at all. I just stood there and didn't say a thing. After a while she slowed stopped having nothing more to say, to which I asked " So whats the matter"

Long story short she wasn't happy about the paint, "You f**King C**t you should have put up a sign, they wouldn't have got up there is they'd known.

"A sign, to warn them about the paint? " I asked

"What other F**king sign do you think I mean you ********"

"Like the warning letter I posted to the neighbours about a week ago, saying I planned to put anti-vandal paint up due to damage to my fence, like the sign that is ontop of my fence and visable from you garden, those sort of signs? do you mean"

Funny enough the conversation changed from that paint.

"I'm gonna report you to the police"

"Like the crime preventation police officer, who told me to put the paint up and leafet the area, and who advised me where to place the warning sign in my garden?"

After this I couldn't help but feel a sense of victory, which was short lived. As the next day I find out mummy went home. Hit one of the boys, breaking his nose, and Dad responded by beating living hell out of Mum.

Both boys have now been taken into care, Dad is on remand and mum has been moved somewhere up north. The house has been reposessed and excellant neighbours have now moved in.

I can't help but feel a sense of guilt ove this situation.

Was I out of order???
**

you've done everyone in the neighbourhood a favour while maintaining your dignity. bravissimo: give yourself a medal right away!
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You should feel guilty that you never took a photo of the ******* all "painted up" for the amusement of your fellow snetters

Well done that man
Old 24 June 2008, 07:53 PM
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well done that man.

thats the trouble with people like this family they always seek to blame or abuse others for their own failings. We had similair neighbours, but thats another story!
Old 24 June 2008, 09:40 PM
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When the parents arent looking, take a brush and the remainer of the paint and slap some on the kids, get the little ***** in trouble for going on your shed again, in fact steam round there saying they have been on the Shed again before they have chance to say anything

Let them know what kind of a **** you can be as well.
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Have to say, I suspec tthe kids were shouting about your food because they dont get any attention at home, I reckon they just wanted some, even if its the wrong kind.
Old 24 June 2008, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by coolangatta
I agree that something smells 'funny' about this story.
It was all ticking along well until....the hyper accelerated ending
I'm not saying it's not true but, is this an abridged version?
Why did you feed the child when you had a barbeque? If my neighbours were as you described, their kids wouldn't get anything off of me apart from getting told where to go. Giving them food was only ever going to make it worse. Social services? As said before, there are things going on you wouldn't believe and the kids are still living with their parents. Nice story but the ending all seems a bit fairytale.
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Haha - well done fella - natural selection in action. Sounds like you saved two kids from thicko parents and the woman got a well deserved beating. Top stuff.
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Originally Posted by m1cks
Why did you feed the child when you had a barbeque? If my neighbours were as you described, their kids wouldn't get anything off of me apart from getting told where to go. Giving them food was only ever going to make it worse. Social services? As said before, there are things going on you wouldn't believe and the kids are still living with their parents. Nice story but the ending all seems a bit fairytale.
I'm a nice guy, plus it was the only way to get the little buggers to leave.

I'd hardly call what happended to the kids and Mother a fairytale. It worked out well for me in the end, but not them.

I'm not sure whats going on with th two herbet now, but from what I do know the police too the child off them when they turned up and nicked the Dad and then the women was moved up north by the domestic violence unit and as far as I know the children haven't been returned to the Mother.

Whether or not she has family and they hav the kids, I don't known.

And to be frank I don't care, the family is gone and thats what matters to me. Albeit I wish it would have been resolved less voilently and with less effect on the kids.
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