To those who don't agree with the return of the death penalty...
29 June 2008, 12:08 PM
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give them some norn iron justice. you don't argue with a 9mm round in the back of the head. back in the late seventies and early eighties anti social behaviour was dealt with "in house". this bottom feeder would be taking a dirt nap back then. come to think of it i reckon over here he would still be killed or "have not found any reason to live" in jail, such are the sensibilities of political prisoners in NI. (they can shoot each other dead but when it comes to rape and child molestation, these guys have no time that scum)
29 June 2008, 12:12 PM
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The death penalty will never be brought back,because this country is full of soft c*nts and do-gooders,,,,,,,,,,scum like that dont deserve to live,some of the posts on this thread going on about,"why should we have the right to take someone's life?" So your sort of saying they have the right to do that to a child,when a child cant fight back. B*ll****,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,kill the C*nt
29 June 2008, 12:15 PM
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please explain your belief as to why the below is not worthy of the death penalty:
Paedophile Arthur Morley Jailed For Possessing Britain's Worst Ever Child **** Collection |Sky News|UK News
Why should this sick monster (not even animals do this so can't call him an animal) not be killed? Why spend the tax payers money keeping him in prison where he will mix with like minded sickos and continue to fantasise over their crimes.
He can not be rehabilitated, he can never be released back into society, there is no doubt as to the crimes he committed so can not be accused of killing the 'wrong man'. He wont sit in prison and suffer or be remorseful of his crimes. He should be killed.
The crimes that he is guilty of and the collection of material that he owned is about as bad as it gets. He has multiple convictions for rape, attempted rape and sexual assault of children. I can not see for the life of me why America has just passed a law outlawing the death penalty for child rape and sexual abuse forcing 7 states to change their laws. There is only 1 way to deal with these monsters and it does not involve keeping them alive.
Paedophile Arthur Morley Jailed For Possessing Britain's Worst Ever Child **** Collection |Sky News|UK News
Why should this sick monster (not even animals do this so can't call him an animal) not be killed? Why spend the tax payers money keeping him in prison where he will mix with like minded sickos and continue to fantasise over their crimes.
He can not be rehabilitated, he can never be released back into society, there is no doubt as to the crimes he committed so can not be accused of killing the 'wrong man'. He wont sit in prison and suffer or be remorseful of his crimes. He should be killed.
The crimes that he is guilty of and the collection of material that he owned is about as bad as it gets. He has multiple convictions for rape, attempted rape and sexual assault of children. I can not see for the life of me why America has just passed a law outlawing the death penalty for child rape and sexual abuse forcing 7 states to change their laws. There is only 1 way to deal with these monsters and it does not involve keeping them alive.
Nail the bugger up and hang him or do whaetever - best solution would be for him to take his won life, thus sparing even more money on injections etc...
29 June 2008, 12:37 PM
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I saw on the news about that Footballer that when drunk killed those two young boys with his Range Rover, now he wouldn't get the Death Penalty from the courts, I think if it were my kids I would have to do it myself.
29 June 2008, 12:45 PM
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I'd like to see them give something back to society, so use them for new drug tests or tests that are normally done on animals. No better way of finding out how new drugs and things will affect humans, by testing them on humans.
29 June 2008, 01:09 PM
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I don't advocate the death penalty for the simple reason that we do get it wrong. If we kill one person who ultimately turns out to be innocent then the system has failed. The case in question here certainly would advocate such an extreme measure but you can judge it on one case. You have to take the overview of it.
29 June 2008, 03:36 PM
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A question for those of you who are so strongly pro the death penalty:
The judicial process is over. Your "Best man" is found guilty of murdering his wife by a jury.
You can't believe your friend is capable of killing anyone and you think there must be some mistake.
Could you throw the switch?
Could you kill him?
Is it ok if someone else carries out the sentence or could you do the job?
If an executioner's job was advertised would you apply for it?
The judicial process is over. Your "Best man" is found guilty of murdering his wife by a jury.
You can't believe your friend is capable of killing anyone and you think there must be some mistake.
Could you throw the switch?
Could you kill him?
Is it ok if someone else carries out the sentence or could you do the job?
If an executioner's job was advertised would you apply for it?
29 June 2008, 04:09 PM
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A question for those of you who are so strongly pro the death penalty:
The judicial process is over. Your "Best man" is found guilty of murdering his wife by a jury.
You can't believe your friend is capable of killing anyone and you think there must be some mistake.
Could you throw the switch?
Could you kill him?
Is it ok if someone else carries out the sentence or could you do the job?
If an executioner's job was advertised would you apply for it?
The judicial process is over. Your "Best man" is found guilty of murdering his wife by a jury.
You can't believe your friend is capable of killing anyone and you think there must be some mistake.
Could you throw the switch?
Could you kill him?
Is it ok if someone else carries out the sentence or could you do the job?
If an executioner's job was advertised would you apply for it?
29 June 2008, 04:45 PM
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A question for those of you who are so strongly pro the death penalty:
The judicial process is over. Your "Best man" is found guilty of murdering his wife by a jury.
You can't believe your friend is capable of killing anyone and you think there must be some mistake.
Could you throw the switch?
Could you kill him?
Is it ok if someone else carries out the sentence or could you do the job?
If an executioner's job was advertised would you apply for it?
The judicial process is over. Your "Best man" is found guilty of murdering his wife by a jury.
You can't believe your friend is capable of killing anyone and you think there must be some mistake.
Could you throw the switch?
Could you kill him?
Is it ok if someone else carries out the sentence or could you do the job?
If an executioner's job was advertised would you apply for it?
And while it shows that every case is different, it is pretty clear in some instances that the death penalty is the right way to go, where there is clear evidence etc.
Sicko's per the OP point should be taken out - they serve no purpose to society.
And if someone is found guilty of xxx and sentenced to life imprisonment with no parole - the death sentence saves us loads of money and hassle, so why not...
29 June 2008, 04:56 PM
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29 June 2008, 05:04 PM
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How about the fact that there was no death penalty in place then (like now) so the facts need to be certain, and, to be honest, 1976 to 2008 is a massive difference in technology, meaning evidence is much more reliable and easier to come by than previous methods.
One instance does not mean everyone else is wrong. There are hundreds of miscarriage of justice - but a drunk driver, high on drugs, fleeing the police at high speed having committed an armed robbery and using the gun to shoot someone, ploughs into your parents and kills them. Would you still be worried about 'the evidence'?
Come on - it is releavnt in cases where there is certainty in a modern world...
One instance does not mean everyone else is wrong. There are hundreds of miscarriage of justice - but a drunk driver, high on drugs, fleeing the police at high speed having committed an armed robbery and using the gun to shoot someone, ploughs into your parents and kills them. Would you still be worried about 'the evidence'?
Come on - it is releavnt in cases where there is certainty in a modern world...
29 June 2008, 06:34 PM
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You shouldn't hang someone for looking at dirty pictures, however abhorrent to normal - whatever that means - people.
But of course it contributes to the ****/paedo trade so lock them up for a long time.
If he is ever going to be released then take a view on chemical castration at the time. There are very mixed views on whether this works.
I'd say anyone who gets a kick out of sex with infants is mentally ill but one is not allowed to say this on SN
"Let's just shoot em" 
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But of course it contributes to the ****/paedo trade so lock them up for a long time.
If he is ever going to be released then take a view on chemical castration at the time. There are very mixed views on whether this works.
I'd say anyone who gets a kick out of sex with infants is mentally ill but one is not allowed to say this on SN
"Let's just shoot em" dl
29 June 2008, 06:43 PM
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How many of those miscarriages of justice involved giving someone a life sentence without parole?
Exactly... since that is what we are talking about, not someone nicking a tin of beans!
29 June 2008, 07:15 PM
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Selective reading my dear chap. I have said in previous comments that it has to be right - but likewise you have again taken a statement and read into it your thoughts.
How many of those miscarriages of justice involved giving someone a life sentence without parole?
Exactly... since that is what we are talking about, not someone nicking a tin of beans!
How many of those miscarriages of justice involved giving someone a life sentence without parole?
Exactly... since that is what we are talking about, not someone nicking a tin of beans!
29 June 2008, 07:42 PM
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I guess that's the difference between seeking justice or seeking revenge.
29 June 2008, 08:00 PM
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Selective reading my dear chap. I have said in previous comments that it has to be right - but likewise you have again taken a statement and read into it your thoughts.
How many of those miscarriages of justice involved giving someone a life sentence without parole?
Exactly... since that is what we are talking about, not someone nicking a tin of beans!
How many of those miscarriages of justice involved giving someone a life sentence without parole?
Exactly... since that is what we are talking about, not someone nicking a tin of beans!
Sorry, but if we are to have a civilised society I don't see where killing people no matter what they have done fits in with the word civilised.
Just my opinion and I am as entitled to it as you are to yours.
29 June 2008, 10:08 PM
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You shouldn't hang someone for looking at dirty pictures, however abhorrent to normal - whatever that means - people.
But of course it contributes to the ****/paedo trade so lock them up for a long time.
If he is ever going to be released then take a view on chemical castration at the time. There are very mixed views on whether this works.
I'd say anyone who gets a kick out of sex with infants is mentally ill but one is not allowed to say this on SN "Let's just shoot em"
dl
But of course it contributes to the ****/paedo trade so lock them up for a long time.
If he is ever going to be released then take a view on chemical castration at the time. There are very mixed views on whether this works.
I'd say anyone who gets a kick out of sex with infants is mentally ill but one is not allowed to say this on SN
"Let's just shoot em" dl
David he already has convictions for rape, attempted rape and sexual assault of children. As far as I am concerned he should have been killed a long time ago.
As for those talking about miscarriages of justice, you can't have a miscarriage of justice when the conviction is beyond all reasonable doubt and in fact the defendant has admitted to the crimes. This is when the death penalty can safely be applied and no one can say oh but you might have the wrong person.
29 June 2008, 10:10 PM
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David he already has convictions for rape, attempted rape and sexual assault of children. As far as I am concerned he should have been killed a long time ago.
As for those talking about miscarriages of justice, you can't have a miscarriage of justice when the conviction is beyond all reasonable doubt and in fact the defendant has admitted to the crimes. This is when the death penalty can safely be applied and no one can say oh but you might have the wrong person.
As for those talking about miscarriages of justice, you can't have a miscarriage of justice when the conviction is beyond all reasonable doubt and in fact the defendant has admitted to the crimes. This is when the death penalty can safely be applied and no one can say oh but you might have the wrong person.
29 June 2008, 10:35 PM
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Apologies if you've already answered earlier in the post