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Old 10 July 2008, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tiny01
Wether the scoob or the ST Go's we shall see

You feeling alright
Old 10 July 2008, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Milamber
You feeling alright

Fine mate , Well as good as can be @ the mo !!

If this Focus RS Is a touch on the ole womans ST & Im sure it will be 100% better this is going to be one hell of a car

If i get the choice of taking the ST Or the Scoob of the drive , Ther ST gets the drive everytime , Much to Mrs Esc's annoyance
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Just me then thinking you've all gone mad

The current ST has worst fuel consumption than ours (in an untuned guise) and is only FWD. Fine it may be quite good in the dry, even excellent but the one thing that impresses me most about ours is the 4wd.

Frayz has slagged off the current ST on nearly every occasion that it has ever been discussed, why is the new RS going to be soo much better when its STILL only FWD?

Given the apparent new Impreza coupe will be available in RWD (lower power) or 4WD (higher power) I can see the potential for a proper tuning on the RWD variant and making a right good old-school hooligan car

Ford with a Vulva (sorry Volvo) engine - does nothing for me.

The Ford boys will love it and I am sure there will be endless MKI Focus RS v ST v MKII RS debates but if you left the Subaru camp for that then I think you'll be disappointed come the first greasy roundabout.
Old 10 July 2008, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Milamber
Just me then thinking you've all gone mad

The current ST has worst fuel consumption than ours (in an untuned guise) and is only FWD. Fine it may be quite good in the dry, even excellent but the one thing that impresses me most about ours is the 4wd.

Frayz has slagged off the current ST on nearly every occasion that it has ever been discussed, why is the new RS going to be soo much better when its STILL only FWD?

Given the apparent new Impreza coupe will be available in RWD (lower power) or 4WD (higher power) I can see the potential for a proper tuning on the RWD variant and making a right good old-school hooligan car

Ford with a Vulva (sorry Volvo) engine - does nothing for me.

The Ford boys will love it and I am sure there will be endless MKI Focus RS v ST v MKII RS debates but if you left the Subaru camp for that then I think you'll be disappointed come the first greasy roundabout.
The old FWD debate has gone on for years and years but youve got to see just how much different the all new RS is in comparisson to that of the current ST.

The new RS has a completely different setup to that of the current ST and that includes an all new diff from Quaife and completely different front suspension geometry and layout. Everything on the RS has been honed for awesome handling, minimum torque steer and maximum power to the road. The RS has a much more special look to it than the ST, better interior, better seats better everything.

Ford have always made exceptional chassis and cars that are renowned for their handling. (Did you see top gear testing the current ST in the wet and it created enough grip to lift the rear wheel on cornering... in the wet!)

The fiesta ST laps tracks just as quick as its competators with less power.

Yes the fuel economy is very poor on the current car but i belive the RS will be no worse maybe better on a much better ECU caliberation than the current I5 volvo lump.

I honestly belive the new RS is going to be showing the scooby and evo boys a thing or 2. Years ago, lots of ponies through the front end used to be a nightmare to control but with the use of modern technology and electronics i think it will be every bit as good as the 4WD offerings.

Get one rolling and i think the RS will show a clean set of heels to both the Scoob and Evo... and dont think the twisties will be helping out here either. 4WD doesnt create any more grip... it only aid traction and putting the power down. If Ford can get the RS to put the power to the road (and i think they can) i think they will have an absolute stonker of a car.

Not to mention the price... £25k for a sub 6 second 0-60mph car??

With looks and interior to die for over the competitiors? 300/300 setup and handling to match?

Nothing comes close in my opinion.

The RS is back and it will be mentaller than ever in stock form.... just wait till the likes of the big tuning boys get hold of em.
Old 10 July 2008, 08:08 PM
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EFC - Essex Focus Crew!
You all know it makes sense!

Love the terminal Understeer
Old 10 July 2008, 08:17 PM
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Black Texaco RS500 livery



Hmmm, remember these fondly, watching Rouse, Gravett, Soper, Harvey, etc racing these was awesome!
Old 10 July 2008, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowvanman
EFC - Essex Focus Crew!

You all know it makes sense!


Love the terminal Understeer

YEAH BABY

BRING IT ON

Old 10 July 2008, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tiny01
YEAH BABY

BRING IT ON

Defo wrc Focus next for me , ordering parts already
Old 10 July 2008, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Get one rolling and i think the RS will show a clean set of heels to both the Scoob and Evo...
I don't disagree and I'm not trying to say a Scooby is the holy grail of motoring, far from it, but I just don't believe the hype I'm afraid.
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Originally Posted by Milamber
I don't disagree and I'm not trying to say a Scooby is the holy grail of motoring, far from it, but I just don't believe the hype I'm afraid.
I think its something we're all yet to see mate...

As for the hype..., i have no reason to disbelive it
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Well you, perhaps, have an advantage that I don't have
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LOL at the EFC... you'd boys best try looking here.

PassionFord

Although you wont be able to mug these boys off with talk of 500bhp form a VTA and some stickers
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Originally Posted by Milamber
Well you, perhaps, have an advantage that I don't have
Old 10 July 2008, 08:57 PM
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Seeing as some of you have finally started to realise what proper Fords are about. Have a gander at this... makes me moist

Best turn the speakers up as the chirps from the turbo mixed with the ALS is rather yummy

YouTube - Rallye Drifting - Christian Rigollet - Ford Sierra Rs Coswor
Old 10 July 2008, 11:08 PM
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wow!! how nice does it look.

is that the escort cossie (monte carlo) in the autocar mag along with the new rs that dazza drove?
Old 11 July 2008, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by frayz
Not to mention the price... £25k with a 25% discount for a sub 6 second 0-60mph car??
Edited for accuracy

Got to agree with the above comments. Subaru should be having a long and hard look at itself. It appears that they really know how to distance themselves from what the buying public want

The car in green looks stunning I wonder if they'll do me a limited edition in Terzo blue
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pacifica blue or imperial blue as per proper RS colours, pretty close to Terzo Blue

Its one hell of a good looking car and looksvery much like a rally car from stock, 19" rims as standard. I will seriously consider this as a next car as the new STI price has jumped £2k from the original £24k price they raved about.

4WD is the only real positive thing on its side at the moment in my books
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No discount for me on any RS model guys... so no need for the edit
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Originally Posted by simon57

is that the escort cossie (monte carlo) in the autocar mag along with the new rs that dazza drove?
yes the VERY car No. 000
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Originally Posted by frayz
The old FWD debate has gone on for years and years but youve got to see just how much different the all new RS is in comparisson to that of the current ST.

The new RS has a completely different setup to that of the current ST and that includes an all new diff from Quaife and completely different front suspension geometry and layout. Everything on the RS has been honed for awesome handling, minimum torque steer and maximum power to the road. The RS has a much more special look to it than the ST, better interior, better seats better everything.

Ford have always made exceptional chassis and cars that are renowned for their handling. (Did you see top gear testing the current ST in the wet and it created enough grip to lift the rear wheel on cornering... in the wet!)

The fiesta ST laps tracks just as quick as its competators with less power.

Yes the fuel economy is very poor on the current car but i belive the RS will be no worse maybe better on a much better ECU caliberation than the current I5 volvo lump.

I honestly belive the new RS is going to be showing the scooby and evo boys a thing or 2. Years ago, lots of ponies through the front end used to be a nightmare to control but with the use of modern technology and electronics i think it will be every bit as good as the 4WD offerings.
this is a great bit of info on the revoknuckle.

http://www.not2fast.com/chassis/revoKnuckle.pdf
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the sierra & escort RS's both kept the WRC wings, why cant they do this with this Ford? That rear WRC spoiler on the Focus is the nuts and would look so cool on the RS.


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Originally Posted by frayz
No discount for me on any RS model guys... so no need for the edit
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Yep i think Bibo said to us on monday they get NO discount on the RS as with the previous. bu66ers.
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Originally Posted by Spec'c'57
Yep i think Bibo said to us on monday they get NO discount on the RS as with the previous. bu66ers.
its was cos the employees were buying them all up at the discounted prices and selling them on to make a nice profit.
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Originally Posted by frayz
Black Texaco RS500 livery


have an rc one of these.
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Originally Posted by frayz
No discount for me on any RS model guys... so no need for the edit
no employee discount on the rs? i know it's not done % anymore but thought they'd offer something.
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Originally Posted by rb5 286
pacifica blue or imperial blue as per proper RS colours, pretty close to Terzo Blue

Its one hell of a good looking car and looksvery much like a rally car from stock, 19" rims as standard. I will seriously consider this as a next car as the new STI price has jumped £2k from the original £24k price they raved about.

4WD is the only real positive thing on its side at the moment in my books
Proper Colour

Could get mine stickered up and join the all show no go crew (Tiny)
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Originally Posted by S600B_DC
Proper Colour

Could get mine stickered up and join the all show no go crew (Tiny)
Tiny's been in the all show no go crew for years mate
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Originally Posted by frayz
Tiny's been in the all show no go crew for years mate
He knows nowhere else.
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Originally Posted by frayz
Tiny's been in the all show no go crew for years mate
There's an awful lot of it about!

Silly stickered up scoobs, pretending to be something there not.

Mind you, i've no stickers and no go!


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