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Old 21 July 2008, 01:21 PM
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I don't agree with Britain funding any country where it would not be safe for a British person to walk down the street.

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We advise against all travel to Gaza and to the Sheba'a Farms and Ghajar, along the border with Lebanon (the Blue Line). We also advise against all but essential travel to areas within 5kms of the Gaza perimeter (including Sderot) and the West Bank (except for Bethlehem, Ramallah, Jericho and the Jordan Valley). See the Terrorism/Security section of this advice for more details.


It would be reckless to travel to Gaza at this time. We believe that terrorist groups continue to maintain the intent and capability to kidnap foreigners, as the kidnap of a British journalist in March 2007 demonstrated. If, despite this advice, you decide to travel to, or remain in, Gaza you do so at your own risk. You should also review your security arrangements and seek professional security advice on whether they are adequate. The level of consular assistance we can provide is very limited.


If you wish to leave Gaza, you should contact the Consulate-General in Jerusalem for advice before attempting to do so. Entering Gaza can involve lengthy delays and searches. Leaving Gaza is even more difficult. Since the beginning of 2008 there have been several incidents of British nationals undergoing a strip-search and delays of several hours (or in one case three days) are common.


There is a high threat from terrorism in Israel. Attacks could be indiscriminate, including in places frequented by expatriates and foreign travellers. The most recent serious incident occurred on 6 March 2008, when a shooting took place at a religious college in West Jerusalem with eight deaths and dozens wounded.


You are strongly advise to maintain a high level of vigilance when travelling anywhere in Jerusalem, and to follow local advice. You should take sensible precautions to protect yourself and your belongings. Demonstrations have the potential to turn violent. For immediate, specific information about planned demonstrations or any other events which may affect the local security situation, you should register with the Consulate-General in Jerusalem.


The main types of incidents for which British nationals required consular assistance in 2007 were for replacing lost and stolen passports; dealing with arrests or detentions, for a variety of offences; and assisting those who encountered security problems in the OPTs or difficulties at Ben Gurion Airport, Tel Aviv.


We strongly recommend that you obtain comprehensive travel and medical insurance before travelling. Many policies do not cover you if your claim is the result of terrorism. You should check any exclusions, and that your policy covers you for all the activities you want to undertake. See the General (Insurance) section of this advice and Travel Insurance for more details.

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Old 21 July 2008, 01:41 PM
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Does this mean you agree with collective punishment?
Old 21 July 2008, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
Read this:

The Frugal Life: Heat or Eat?

Then realise that it was broadcast _before_ the huge inflation in food prices and the 60% increases in utility bills expected by the end of the year.

There are going to be people starving or freezing to death this winter in NuLabor's Britain.

Now tell me there is 'no third world poverty' in this country. None so blind as those who cannot see. This is where £30 million needs spending. Let the arabs take care of their own from the Billions they make out of selling us oil.
I don't quite see the comparison to third worlders? I mean there is poverty, and then there is poverty. And when you've seen poverty, I mean the real thing, not just going without some heat or food for a few months, I mean, poverty that, literally, wrenches the heart out of your chest everytime you walk past a full supermarket isle.

I also, agree with you, that 30mil be beter spent on the UK than other nations, that is a different subject, and like the "climate change" bullcrap, pollies are seen to be "doing something" to address the issue. It is merely tokenism!

But let me ask you, talking of Arabs and oil, will you give up plastics, semiconductors, pharmasuticals, petrol-chemicals, pesticides, fertilizers etc etc etc etc....? Unless you are really willing to become "third world" yourself, you will never be able to erradicate "Arabs and oil".
Old 21 July 2008, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Shouldn't we be doing both?
That's exactly my point. Why does this dreadful government do nothing to help our own pensioners while they cheerfully pledge Millions to middle eastern sh*t holes who's woes are largely of their own making anyway?

It's because there is no glory or glamour to be helping out pensioners in poverty (the indigenous population who NuLabor despise anyway) while swanning around on the 'world stage' handing out wads of money makes that one eyed loser Heathcliff feel important. It's pitiful to behold.
Old 21 July 2008, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
That's exactly my point. Why does this dreadful government do nothing to help our own pensioners while they cheerfully pledge Millions to middle eastern sh*t holes who's woes are largely of their own making anyway?

It's because there is no glory or glamour to be helping out pensioners in poverty (the indigenous population who NuLabor despise anyway) while swanning around on the 'world stage' handing out wads of money makes that one eyed loser Heathcliff feel important. It's pitiful to behold.
Well here's a few that you must have conveniently forgetten, and I'll add opposed by your beloved Tory Party

Minimum wage
Winter Fuel Allowance
Child tax credits

Not to mention 10 years of low inflation and low interest rates.

These have actually resulted in millions of people being lifted out of poverty

The only 'one eyed' person here is you mate!! (I don't understand why you use the fact that the guy lost an eye as a young man as a reason to attack and ridicule him...explain?)
Old 21 July 2008, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
That's exactly my point. Why does this dreadful government do nothing to help our own pensioners while they cheerfully pledge Millions to middle eastern sh*t holes who's woes are largely of their own making anyway?

It's because there is no glory or glamour to be helping out pensioners in poverty (the indigenous population who NuLabor despise anyway) while swanning around on the 'world stage' handing out wads of money makes that one eyed loser Heathcliff feel important. It's pitiful to behold.
Because it is not EU PC "policy", after all, those at home are "well off"! Well, in comparison, they are.
Old 21 July 2008, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SetoN
I don't agree with Britain funding any country where it would not be safe for a British person to walk down the street.
Like erm...London, Uk, England
Old 21 July 2008, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005

Minimum wage
Winter Fuel Allowance
Child tax credits

C'mon Mart, be fair, they did introduce VAT on home fuel bills at only 5%
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