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Old 06 August 2008, 09:38 AM
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Old 06 August 2008, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Indeed It doesnt take much to go from "unidentified blood" to "definitely Maddys with sedatives and almost definitely cat spunk in it"
ha ha ha..
Old 06 August 2008, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by scooby L
... but he was/still is a copybook future offender... "
Why is he?


Originally Posted by scooby L
I could not have murdered Jill...I was stalking someone else"

I hope the next girl he fantasizes about doesn't end up molested or dead ..and we all say.. well done us....maybe he did it after all...
Ahh I think you are possibly mixing Robert Murat with Barry George.

Murat was the English guy living in Portugal that helped police with translations and later got declared a suspect.

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Old 06 August 2008, 09:39 AM
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Old 06 August 2008, 09:43 AM
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Old 06 August 2008, 10:15 AM
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Maddy is two days older than my daughter, and this article today really pulled at my heart strings.

All the suspicion aside, we don't really know what happened, and if she was indeed abducted, the thought of my daughter in this situation is too terrible to contemplate, off somewhere with some people she didn't know. And the longer it goes on, if it is her, the less likely she will remember who her real parents were.

I hope it's wrong.

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Old 06 August 2008, 10:22 AM
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I know what I think and wouldnt like to place a bet they know nothing ........

Maybe we will never know what happened to the poor little girl.
But someone does thats for sure ......
Old 06 August 2008, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Which questions are stupid.
Possibly the one like 'Have you ever worked shift work?' What has that got to do withthe disappearance of a child.

What did the police expect in reply? 'Err, yes I have worked shift work and I killed my daughter because working night frustrates me.'

Come on, honestly.
Old 06 August 2008, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MrRA
Possibly the one like 'Have you ever worked shift work?' What has that got to do withthe disappearance of a child.

What did the police expect in reply? 'Err, yes I have worked shift work and I killed my daughter because working night frustrates me.'

Come on, honestly.
Id suspect the Police where getting at something else, By her refusal to help the Police with the investigation she has let that child down AGAIN.

Sorry but that is not how a parent would re act to there child going missing. You would go in answer everything the police ask no matter how stupid or trivial the questions may appear.
Old 06 August 2008, 12:10 PM
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I think they did the right thing. At that point in the investigation the local police were clearly trying to apportion blame at the mccanns feet. And their legal advisor told them to keep silent so whats the issue?

Really sad story
Old 06 August 2008, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by renno rannes
Sorry but that is not how a parent would re act to there child going missing.
It demonstrably is.


In any event, I would say that there is no prescribed method of how you are supposed to react when your child goes missing.

Just like there is no prescribed reaction to the death of someone close to you.

Some people completely fall to peices, some people don't. There is no right or wrong reaction. And we have absolutely no idea how the McCanns have reacted privately to the dissappearance of thier daughter.
Old 06 August 2008, 12:54 PM
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BBC NEWS | UK | McCann's plea to police revealed

Mrs McCann wrote to senior officer Paulo Rebelo but received no reply beyond a formal notification that her correspondence would be placed on file.

Mrs McCann wrote: "As her mother, the pain and anxiety I feel for her is indescribable and the feeling of helplessness overwhelming. The 'accusations' and media smearing, although upsetting, are very much secondary.

"I am appealing to you as a fellow human being to work with us (if possible include us) and to remember that we are Madeleine's parents and have needs...

"Lack of communication and a void of information, particularly as the parent of a missing child, is torture."
Old 06 August 2008, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by renno rannes
Sorry but that is not how a parent would re act to there child going missing. You would go in answer everything the police ask no matter how stupid or trivial the questions may appear.
I wasn't aware that there was a pre-defined response for such a situation. People react in many different ways. Personally if I were in such a situation I would probably refuse to answer such ridiculous questions as I would be very frustrated at the poilce trying to finger me for the disappearance when they should in fact be out there and doing their job and trying to locate the missing child.
Old 06 August 2008, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
It demonstrably is.


In any event, I would say that there is no prescribed method of how you are supposed to react when your child goes missing.

Just like there is no prescribed reaction to the death of someone close to you.

Some people completely fall to peices, some people don't. There is no right or wrong reaction. And we have absolutely no idea how the McCanns have reacted privately to the dissappearance of thier daughter.
Sorry I dident mean how they dealt with the fact there daughter was missing or feared dead, rather that in those situations you should be as helpful and honest with the police even if its just so they can rule the Mc Canns out of the investigation, The people next to the victims are always the first to be looked at. I understand people handle things in there own way and I agree that does not say they are guilty.
Old 06 August 2008, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MrRA
Personally if I were in such a situation I would probably refuse to answer such ridiculous questions as I would be very frustrated at the poilce trying to finger me for the disappearance when they should in fact be out there and doing their job and trying to locate the missing child.
Yes im sure thats what most people do but the Police need the backround of what happend including the small details that the average person might find ridiculous in order to do there job. If they had nothing to hide they wouldent fear the questions.
Old 06 August 2008, 01:46 PM
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Its obvious to me that the police have carried out their investigations around the McCann's prior to this interview. The questions asked to her are based on those findings.

Its seems that she hasn't woken the twins to see if they had seen anything. She hadn't shouted 'Madeline' from the room. She hasn't asked anyone to help in the search, They weren't the ones to contact police, she couldn't acount for the findings of the sniffer dog.

It seems the police have discovered something back in England too - hence the questions about her work. Perhaps the hospital have reported the theft of medication (sedatives) during the night - hence the question about shift work.

If you read the questions and understand that the police are expecting a specific response to the question. They know what the response is going to be from their investigations, but want her to explain why she acted in the way she did. This may lead to further lines of enquiry to help find Madline. Her silence is obviously covering something up and has hampered the investigation.

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Old 06 August 2008, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Its obvious to me that the police have carried out their investigations around the McCann's prior to this interview. The questions asked to her are based on those findings.

Its seems that she hasn't woken the twins to see if they had seen anything. She hadn't shouted 'Madeline' from the room. She hasn't asked anyone to help in the search, They weren't the ones to contact police, she couldn't acount for the findings of the sniffer dog.

It seems the police have discovered something back in England too - hence the questions about her work. Perhaps the hospital have reported the theft of medication (sedatives) during the night - hence the question about shift work.

If you read the questions and understand that the police are expecting a specific response to the question. They know what the response is going to be from their investigations, but want her to explain why she acted in the way she did. This may lead to further lines of enquiry to help find Madline. Her silence is obviously covering something up and has hampered the investigation.

"it seems"

"if"

"perhaps"

You are shooting in the dark, you are not party to the intricacies of this case. You are basing your conclusions on very little evidence. It is not obvious *at all* that she is covering anything up
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Since there has been no positive evidence to convict them of doing away with their child It seems wholly unfair to start insinuating that they are guilty of anything to do with her abduction or possible murder.

This sort of semi accusation is all wrong and very injurious and should not be made unless the accuser has got some real evidence to prove their involvement.

If they were shown to be guilty I would be amongst the first to run them down but at the moment as far I am concerned, they are guilty of appalling care for their children on that night at the moment and deserve all the criticism for that. They are suffering for that mistakenly carelessness behaviour at the moment for sure.

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Old 06 August 2008, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
You are shooting in the dark, you are not party to the intricacies of this case. You are basing your conclusions on very little evidence. It is not obvious *at all* that she is covering anything up
Where did you search in the flat
Can you describe the contents of the cupboard
Who helped in the searches
Why did you not ask the twins
Why did they say she had been abducted from the start (and not missing)
The scent of death which follows them around

All answered 'No reply' - and you say she's not covering anything up
Old 06 August 2008, 02:31 PM
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Have they ever taken lie detector tests? If not, can they be forced to?
Old 06 August 2008, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
Where did you search in the flat
Can you describe the contents of the cupboard
Who helped in the searches
Why did you not ask the twins
Why did they say she had been abducted from the start (and not missing)
The scent of death which follows them around

All answered 'No reply' - and you say she's not covering anything up
Yes I do say that.

Like I said, there are a multitude of reasons why she did not answer those questions. You are assuming it is to cover something up.
But that's all it is; an assumption. There is not *any* evidence that they did anything to Madeline. There sure is a lot of groundless specualtion though.


Originally Posted by Telboy
Have they ever taken lie detector tests? If not, can they be forced to?
Not sure if they have taken one. One thing is for sure though, it won;t matter a jot as to the result because they aren't admissable as evidence in UK courts, mainly on account of them being absolutely rubbish.
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Felix-are you police IIRC?
Old 06 August 2008, 02:54 PM
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Old 06 August 2008, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Like I said, there are a multitude of reasons why she did not answer those questions.
Go on then............

Bare in mind that your daughter is missing and you are trying to help the authorities in charge of the search the best you can
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Yes I do say that.

Like I said, there are a multitude of reasons why she did not answer those questions. You are assuming it is to cover something up.
But that's all it is; an assumption. There is not *any* evidence that they did anything to Madeline. There sure is a lot of groundless specualtion though.
Because there is no body hense no forensic proof....and the police's main suspects are keeping tight lipped on what really happend that night.

Sorry Pete, but are you really surprised why there is so much speculation?
Old 06 August 2008, 02:58 PM
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For all her we know her legal team coul dhave said to her "Right, you want them out searching to Maddy, not interrogating you - So just refuse to answer everything, quickest way to get the interview over and worry about it later"..


Total speculation, but no more so than any other exaplantion.
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Originally Posted by scooby L
Because there is no body hense no forensic proof....and the police's main suspects are keeping tight lipped on what really happend that night.
They aren't suspects any more. Just like Robert Murat isn't.

Anyway. So what you are saying, is that there is no proof that the McCanns harmed or abductcted thier own daughter, and no one is admitting to it, therefore they must have done it.


Brilliant.


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Sorry Pete, but are you really surprised why there is so much speculation?
Course not, the world is full of people that jump to conclusions.
Old 06 August 2008, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
For all her we know
Yes..further speculation.... for all we know it was their choice to keep quiet?

Originally Posted by PeteBrant
her legal team coul dhave said to her "Right, you want them out searching to Maddy, not interrogating you - So just refuse to answer everything, quickest way to get the interview over and worry about it later"..
Hmmmm... after all the many many months of no leads... I doubt that very much...If my lawyer started telling me to keep quiet to "save time" he'd be sacked.
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
They aren't suspects any more. Just like Robert Murat isn't.

Anyway. So what you are saying, is that there is no proof that the McCanns harmed or abductcted thier own daughter, and no one is admitting to it, therefore they must have done it.


Brilliant.
They are no longer prime suspects (sorry Lynda Le Plant ) only because the Police have given up with too much media contamination.

What I'm saying is the McCan's were called in to answer specific questions about the events leading up to and immediatly after Maddy's abduction (questions they've probably answered already) and they descided (or were told for no real credible reason) to keep quiet... like some professional crook who knows how to play the system. Thus stopping the invertigation dead in it's tracks... It Stinks....That's what I'm saying....


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