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11 August 2008, 01:03 PM
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Oh Harry,
I am hardly sat on the sideline
I just picked up on your initial posts and funnily enough they looked like trolling. You can play the hard done by and picked on by scoobynet for not agreeding. However, several other people picked up on it.
If enough people call you a horse - get fitted for a comfy saddle!
]Fancy leaving a 24K theodolite unattended in the first place, I assume he managed to get the registration number of the pikey charriot as he was only 20 metres away?
And then
All seems a bit daft, you can hire them for 220 - 345 a week which negates the huge initial purchase cost and risk of losing 24K when one goes awol.
And then
The difference being that your car is insured whereas the work equipment being discussed wasn't.
May I suggest that if you've had your car stolen twice you may want to consider hiring a car in future?
However you do change your tune somewhat and actually I wholeheartedly agree with “I think you'll find that NS instills a sense of purpose/pride in people, core values for society if you like, nobody here is saying that it will stop crime overnight.”
Have a good 'un
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11 August 2008, 01:05 PM
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I would reread your posts, and how you try to manipulate the argument as to it being the theodalites owners fault for leaving it unattended some 20m away!
and then tried further manipluation and trying for a rise by questioning why he purchased on instaed of hiring it - WTF is it to do with you anyhow?
Not exactly clever trolling - trolling nevertheless
and then tried further manipluation and trying for a rise by questioning why he purchased on instaed of hiring it - WTF is it to do with you anyhow?
Not exactly clever trolling - trolling nevertheless
Threads shouldn't necessarily follow a straight path either as a lot can come out of them if there are a few mildly diverse topics that stem from the original post. I see nobody has complained about the national service 'shoot off' that is equally 'trolling' if ever there is such a overused word.
The hire versus buy topic was also something many would find interesting as long as the figures put forward are factual, which in this case both the OP and Harry thought they were. Getting a definitive answer from this would be more interesting to some.
Oh and before anyone asks why I'm defending Harry Flatters, I'm not, I know his main username. I'm defending fairness. Harry has posted a load of snót elsewhere on a couple of occasions but here he didn't, in my opinion.
OP, I hope you get the equipment back and the ***** are shot.
11 August 2008, 01:08 PM
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One of my lads was working this morning (in our wonderful Capital,) and a group of low life pond scum pull up in their pikey ford transit, and nick my £24k theodoilte from the side of the road with my chap 20m away..
He sets off in pursuit....but looses them in the traffic.
I love this country....
He sets off in pursuit....but looses them in the traffic.
I love this country....
What you doing employing someone with no arms and legs
11 August 2008, 01:08 PM
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Paul, I read it that Harry Flatters simply asked what I was thinking when I read it originally. That question was answered perfectly by the OP and so it was put to bed. Ultimately the equipment shouldn't need protecting from thieving scum but it shouldn't hurt or be regarded as trolling to ask why 24k's worth was left on its own. I'd have had you down as being somebody to have actually at least thought that as well, to be honest.
Threads shouldn't necessarily follow a straight path either as a lot can come out of them if there are a few mildly diverse topics that stem from the original post. I see nobody has complained about the national service 'shoot off' that is equally 'trolling' if ever there is such a overused word.
The hire versus buy topic was also something many would find interesting as long as the figures put forward are factual, which in this case both the OP and Harry thought they were. Getting a definitive answer from this would be more interesting to some.
Oh and before anyone asks why I'm defending Harry Flatters, I'm not, I know his main username. I'm defending fairness. Harry has posted a load of snót elsewhere on a couple of occasions but here he didn't, in my opinion.
OP, I hope you get the equipment back and the ***** are shot.
Threads shouldn't necessarily follow a straight path either as a lot can come out of them if there are a few mildly diverse topics that stem from the original post. I see nobody has complained about the national service 'shoot off' that is equally 'trolling' if ever there is such a overused word.
The hire versus buy topic was also something many would find interesting as long as the figures put forward are factual, which in this case both the OP and Harry thought they were. Getting a definitive answer from this would be more interesting to some.
Oh and before anyone asks why I'm defending Harry Flatters, I'm not, I know his main username. I'm defending fairness. Harry has posted a load of snót elsewhere on a couple of occasions but here he didn't, in my opinion.
OP, I hope you get the equipment back and the ***** are shot.
I was not so much the question as how it was asked
11 August 2008, 01:19 PM
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11 August 2008, 01:27 PM
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well I had the day off work the other day, was washing for once my scooby- this is a rare occurance.
pikeys drive up my/our private drive in a transit tipper- I stop them and confront them-- oh yeah mate we're just looking for scrap. told them to sod off- they are trespassing and they want to get back to council estates for that
one of my neighbours is building a hse in his back garden- so it seems to draw thieving scum types.
have a good old exchange of words and me thinking "well I don't fighting much with these two"
thought best plan was carry on washing car !!!!!! after some more pikey abuse they sodded off and I then caught them in a neighbours garden having a poke about.
I;d just put people down like this- can't see what purpose they serve, really can't.
anyway- hope you get yr gear back....... quite rightly who would think someone would nick it whilst yr actually using it !
pikeys drive up my/our private drive in a transit tipper- I stop them and confront them-- oh yeah mate we're just looking for scrap. told them to sod off- they are trespassing and they want to get back to council estates for that
one of my neighbours is building a hse in his back garden- so it seems to draw thieving scum types.
have a good old exchange of words and me thinking "well I don't fighting much with these two"
thought best plan was carry on washing car !!!!!! after some more pikey abuse they sodded off and I then caught them in a neighbours garden having a poke about.
I;d just put people down like this- can't see what purpose they serve, really can't.
anyway- hope you get yr gear back....... quite rightly who would think someone would nick it whilst yr actually using it !
11 August 2008, 01:31 PM
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11 August 2008, 01:44 PM
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You've just made that quote up, for some strange reason and I suggest that you keep the offensive "Stupid ****" comments to yourself in future.
11 August 2008, 02:10 PM
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Hey I'm back.
Scoobychick: I've got a spare instrument (another advatage to buying you equipment not hiring them) so I've sent him out to another job with that.
I've no plans to replace it yet, as I said... I can keep my 3 teams going still...just using the spare instrument (which is getting old now but still works perfectly well)
HF...I fear you do not understand the technology involved... surveying instruments are not "fast moving" in technological breakthroughs like the rest of the electronic world.
The spare one man gear I have is now 10 years old, and even though I'd not like to rely on it long term (old age) It's just as quick/technologically advanced as new ones still being sold.
Scoobychick: I've got a spare instrument (another advatage to buying you equipment not hiring them) so I've sent him out to another job with that.
I've no plans to replace it yet, as I said... I can keep my 3 teams going still...just using the spare instrument (which is getting old now but still works perfectly well)
HF...I fear you do not understand the technology involved... surveying instruments are not "fast moving" in technological breakthroughs like the rest of the electronic world.
The spare one man gear I have is now 10 years old, and even though I'd not like to rely on it long term (old age) It's just as quick/technologically advanced as new ones still being sold.
11 August 2008, 02:13 PM
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HF...I fear you do not understand the technology involved... surveying instruments are not "fast moving" in technological breakthroughs like the rest of the electronic world.
The spare one man gear I have is now 10 years old, and even though I'd not like to rely on it long term (old age) It's just as quick/technologically advanced as new ones still being sold.
The spare one man gear I have is now 10 years old, and even though I'd not like to rely on it long term (old age) It's just as quick/technologically advanced as new ones still being sold.
11 August 2008, 02:18 PM
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Jonny FYI (not the POS the other link was too lol)
Trimble S6 - A Servo or Robotic Total Station with MagDrive Technology for Surveying
11 August 2008, 02:24 PM
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lol You're maths are shockingly bad, the kit would not have cost 220 a week to hire in 1985 (22 years ago) therefore your figures are already off kilt. The kit you're using also has a shelf life of say 5 - 7 years, when considering technological advances and all that. So you'll actually replace the existing hardware around three times in that same 22 year period. I could also go into the capital outlay of 96K amortised over the seven years (even as a discounted cash flow) opposed to the hire costs for the same period.
And yes I do run a successful business, and no its not hiring equipment, but anyway, I do hope you get it back
And yes I do run a successful business, and no its not hiring equipment, but anyway, I do hope you get it back
So I was trying to help you not look even more of an idiot...and you still managed (by trying to be clever).
I'm Sorry, I failed.
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11 August 2008, 02:27 PM
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So a perfectly good piece of gear will be trashed because someone cannot keep their greasy hands off what's not theirs to take.
11 August 2008, 02:37 PM
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It seems Pikeys will steal anything from anywhere! BBC NEWS | Scotland | Highlands and Islands | Thieves take 40 boat anchors away Unbelievable!
11 August 2008, 02:37 PM
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Not wanting to Drag this little gem up..but I will... as you may (or obviously didn't) have noticed I used £24k times four, where as (as you have stated) the kit was orignally £15k, then £17.5k then £18.5k then £24k, total figure £75k. Another £19k cheaper than my actual figure.
So I was trying to help you not look even more of an idiot...and you still managed (by trying to be clever).
I'm Sorry, I failed.
So I was trying to help you not look even more of an idiot...and you still managed (by trying to be clever).
I'm Sorry, I failed.
I could , but I won't, because I don't now need to
scooby L = FAIL
11 August 2008, 02:39 PM
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i wonder if in the future they could have a built in tracking device, so you could see what your men are upto and also it would record a gps location for what ever location you used it on, and of course it would be found if it was on.
just a thought, hope you get it back though mate
just a thought, hope you get it back though mate
11 August 2008, 02:47 PM
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ha ha
Nooo..I said that I replace the equipment every 6 years...? what's so hard about that to grasp? in that time the 1st replacement cost me £15k, the 2nd £17.5k the third £18.5k and the last was £24k..total cost to me over a 21 year period £75k. That's not taking into account trade in equity.
Now..If I had HIRED the same equipment it'll have cost me (using your own figures... so why start challenging me about them?) ok lets take an average of £100 per week over 21 years..(which is stupidly lower than real life but to make you happy) gives you £105k.. so in 21 years I've OVERSPENT to the tune of £30k, which gives me a free piece of kit plus extras... am I being think?
and where has the 21 year old equipment come from? I replace them EVERY 6 YEARS!... so they are between 0 and 6 years old at any one time? Apart from the spare one I keep in the shed
Nooo..I said that I replace the equipment every 6 years...? what's so hard about that to grasp? in that time the 1st replacement cost me £15k, the 2nd £17.5k the third £18.5k and the last was £24k..total cost to me over a 21 year period £75k. That's not taking into account trade in equity.
Now..If I had HIRED the same equipment it'll have cost me (using your own figures... so why start challenging me about them?) ok lets take an average of £100 per week over 21 years..(which is stupidly lower than real life but to make you happy) gives you £105k.. so in 21 years I've OVERSPENT to the tune of £30k, which gives me a free piece of kit plus extras... am I being think?
and where has the 21 year old equipment come from? I replace them EVERY 6 YEARS!... so they are between 0 and 6 years old at any one time? Apart from the spare one I keep in the shed
11 August 2008, 02:53 PM
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ha ha
Nooo..I said that I replace the equipment every 6 years...? what's so hard about that to grasp? in that time the 1st replacement cost me £15k, the 2nd £17.5k the third £18.5k and the last was £24k..total cost to me over a 21 year period £75k. That's not taking into account trade in equity.
Now..If I had HIRED the same equipment it'll have cost me (using your own figures... so why start challenging me about them?) ok lets take an average of £100 per week over 21 years..(which is stupidly lower than real life but to make you happy) gives you £105k.. so in 21 years I've OVERSPENT to the tune of £30k, which gives me a free piece of kit plus extras... am I being think?
and where has the 21 year old equipment come from? I replace them EVERY 6 YEARS!... so they are between 0 and 6 years old at any one time? Apart from the spare one I keep in the shed
Nooo..I said that I replace the equipment every 6 years...? what's so hard about that to grasp? in that time the 1st replacement cost me £15k, the 2nd £17.5k the third £18.5k and the last was £24k..total cost to me over a 21 year period £75k. That's not taking into account trade in equity.
Now..If I had HIRED the same equipment it'll have cost me (using your own figures... so why start challenging me about them?) ok lets take an average of £100 per week over 21 years..(which is stupidly lower than real life but to make you happy) gives you £105k.. so in 21 years I've OVERSPENT to the tune of £30k, which gives me a free piece of kit plus extras... am I being think?
and where has the 21 year old equipment come from? I replace them EVERY 6 YEARS!... so they are between 0 and 6 years old at any one time? Apart from the spare one I keep in the shed
11 August 2008, 02:58 PM
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Typical you just get comfy............
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i wonder if in the future they could have a built in tracking device, so you could see what your men are upto and also it would record a gps location for what ever location you used it on, and of course it would be found if it was on.
just a thought, hope you get it back though mate
just a thought, hope you get it back though mate
We already have GPS for them as a bolt on