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12 August 2008, 12:22 PM
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as a cyclist- 75 mph on an unfared/slipstreamed bike is impossible. plus those comps are so inaccurate at that speed it'll never count it right. could easily be 10% 30% out.
they are hoping for 85 mph as a world record soon.
I've raced and last yr had a true/accurate speed of about 44 mph on a track recorded.
I've also seen 67. something mph on my speedo on a massive down hill in scotland- but windresistance is so great its not going to be true at all.
nice wind up though !!!!!!!
they are hoping for 85 mph as a world record soon.
I've raced and last yr had a true/accurate speed of about 44 mph on a track recorded.
I've also seen 67. something mph on my speedo on a massive down hill in scotland- but windresistance is so great its not going to be true at all.
nice wind up though !!!!!!!
12 August 2008, 12:26 PM
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Thank you austin 
I was quite proud of it myself. The photos lend WAY too much credence to the story 
on a related note. I was quite proud of being able to make the 14 miles home last night in under an hour for the first time in ages. It may not sound much but I'm WAY out of shape, and I do need to negotiate traffic lights and the centre of Derby on the way (not to mention several miles of cycle path and bridleway)
I catching the train in and cycling home each day at the moment (not today as we are going out early so have to back early
) so am I building up slowly this time.
I was quite proud of it myself. The photos lend WAY too much credence to the story on a related note. I was quite proud of being able to make the 14 miles home last night in under an hour for the first time in ages. It may not sound much but I'm WAY out of shape, and I do need to negotiate traffic lights and the centre of Derby on the way (not to mention several miles of cycle path and bridleway)
I catching the train in and cycling home each day at the moment (not today as we are going out early so have to back early
) so am I building up slowly this time.
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12 August 2008, 01:12 PM
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my exact thoughts this morning as well!
Although I am now regretting it as the weather is WAY better and I'm going to miss the ride home tonight.
Hopefully the rainproof jacket my wife is buying for my birthday will be available before the day and I can wear it if it rains again... which it will.
12 August 2008, 05:38 PM
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Yes, weather does look ok now, if a little threatening, its counter productive getting p1ss wet through as I find my shoes take days to dry, my rucksack gets waterlogged and wets the contents.
Will address this when I get some weather gear, I do also think there is a safety aspect of weather like that, spray, wet manhole covers, cant read the surface of the road as well, the discomfort is distracting, hands get slippy, I will if I have to but I am not doing this to make life hard. Over two months I have done out of 47 work days
19 Bike
17 Car
5 Holiday - Away (but using bike in Centreparcs)
3 Jury Duty - Not practical - no showers or anywhere for bike
1 Worked from Home
2 Aberdeen - Bit far
So, have done over 50% of my work journeys on it since starting.
I did see one hardy soul in that torrent this morning, be he is still drying out.
Will address this when I get some weather gear, I do also think there is a safety aspect of weather like that, spray, wet manhole covers, cant read the surface of the road as well, the discomfort is distracting, hands get slippy, I will if I have to but I am not doing this to make life hard. Over two months I have done out of 47 work days
19 Bike
17 Car
5 Holiday - Away (but using bike in Centreparcs)
3 Jury Duty - Not practical - no showers or anywhere for bike
1 Worked from Home
2 Aberdeen - Bit far
So, have done over 50% of my work journeys on it since starting.
I did see one hardy soul in that torrent this morning, be he is still drying out.
12 August 2008, 08:10 PM
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Southern Pansies the lot of ya 
See the bike as your main mode of transport and take the car out of the equation. Don't even enter the 'ooh it's raining will I take the car' etc
debate in the morning
The only exceptions when I consider the car are when sustained winds above 35mph are forecast.....nae fun
Rain - cars get stuck in the floods and it's great to pedal past them (last Thursday)
Snow - Take mountain bike and it's great to pedal past them
Shoes will dry out overnight if stuffed with newspaper and left nr a radiator or on a water tank for a while.
Manhole covers etc, simple, just avoid all puddles, get to know your route like the back of your hand, take no risks with puddles, signal, pull out, put your lights on in heavy rain etc etc
Just do it, it's the only way you appreciate the fine days (think we had one of those in May)
See the bike as your main mode of transport and take the car out of the equation. Don't even enter the 'ooh it's raining will I take the car' etc
debate in the morning
The only exceptions when I consider the car are when sustained winds above 35mph are forecast.....nae fun
Rain - cars get stuck in the floods and it's great to pedal past them (last Thursday)
Snow - Take mountain bike and it's great to pedal past them
Shoes will dry out overnight if stuffed with newspaper and left nr a radiator or on a water tank for a while.
Manhole covers etc, simple, just avoid all puddles, get to know your route like the back of your hand, take no risks with puddles, signal, pull out, put your lights on in heavy rain etc etc
Just do it, it's the only way you appreciate the fine days (think we had one of those in May)
13 August 2008, 09:28 AM
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Have to agree with you SiPie. I'm going to be sorting out my wet weather gear properly when I'm paid this month as I'm getting my mind-set into the "my bike is my main mode of transport" thing.
I had to drive in due to the rain and going out early yesterday but I missed the bike ride home.
I really now have to make the decision about buying the Bad Boy and fitting it out or seeing if I can do anything with my road bike... your comment about the snow has me thinking as well now.
I had to drive in due to the rain and going out early yesterday but I missed the bike ride home.
I really now have to make the decision about buying the Bad Boy and fitting it out or seeing if I can do anything with my road bike... your comment about the snow has me thinking as well now.
13 August 2008, 11:35 AM
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just to add my little bit
i was on my commuting mounting bike with 2.25" road tyres (slightly square profile to reduce rolling resistance)
i cant remember how fast i was going (cornering) when i came off. well i think i came off. thats the only reason i can think why i have less skin on one side of my body and why i have just come out of hospital.
so when you novices (ive been riding / racing for over 20 years) are sortin your wet gear, if you havent already sort a helmet out too. they dont stop injuries but obviously can seriously reduce the possible effects of one.
enjoy
i was on my commuting mounting bike with 2.25" road tyres (slightly square profile to reduce rolling resistance)
i cant remember how fast i was going (cornering) when i came off. well i think i came off. thats the only reason i can think why i have less skin on one side of my body and why i have just come out of hospital.
so when you novices (ive been riding / racing for over 20 years) are sortin your wet gear, if you havent already sort a helmet out too. they dont stop injuries but obviously can seriously reduce the possible effects of one.
enjoy
13 August 2008, 11:57 AM
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you also don't need expensive clothing. a decent jacket yes decent shorts/bib yes and helmet though.
you don;t need to look like yr on a stage of the tour de france !!!!!
but a lot of the clothes from aldi and lidl on their special bike day sales are great.
I cycle all year round and best advice is to ignore any crap and hype from bike mags. layers and ventilation is the clue.
other top tip is mudguards are a must, ditto overshoes for rain/mud.
Kieran- honestly- £30/40 in aldi- you'd be sorted.
they were even doing cycling shoes with cleats for about £11. I got a pair and they've done me about 12 mths. bargain.
you don;t need to look like yr on a stage of the tour de france !!!!!
but a lot of the clothes from aldi and lidl on their special bike day sales are great.
I cycle all year round and best advice is to ignore any crap and hype from bike mags. layers and ventilation is the clue.
other top tip is mudguards are a must, ditto overshoes for rain/mud.
Kieran- honestly- £30/40 in aldi- you'd be sorted.
they were even doing cycling shoes with cleats for about £11. I got a pair and they've done me about 12 mths. bargain.
13 August 2008, 12:21 PM
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Sipie, I will do the wet days but at the moment I have no gear whatsoever, I just wear some chav type pants, a work freebie t-shirt (Bright Orange SQL Server Superhero one) and a motorway maintenance yellow vest.
Obviously on the way back I am stuck with whatever the weather is and get wet but I can get dry clothes easily, at work its not so easy, I will leave a spare set here. I would love to get a proper Snowy day to cycle in on, bring it on, no gritting, though the portakabin showers may be a little parky .
I don't know if I consider myself a novice really, I have ridden a bike on and off since I was 4, novice to the commuting I suppose, I do wear a helmet and cringe when I see people cycling without, ok you look a Gibbon but but it does make the difference between a bit of concussion and a bit of Brain damage.
My next purchase will involve lighting, another one for the back as my current one is attached to the right hand side of my rucksack and a powerful one to see and be seen for the front, I was wondering whether there are any lighting options to illuminate from the side, like those valve cap led things, just as an extra precaution ?
Obviously on the way back I am stuck with whatever the weather is and get wet but I can get dry clothes easily, at work its not so easy, I will leave a spare set here. I would love to get a proper Snowy day to cycle in on, bring it on, no gritting, though the portakabin showers may be a little parky .
I don't know if I consider myself a novice really, I have ridden a bike on and off since I was 4, novice to the commuting I suppose, I do wear a helmet and cringe when I see people cycling without, ok you look a Gibbon but but it does make the difference between a bit of concussion and a bit of Brain damage.
My next purchase will involve lighting, another one for the back as my current one is attached to the right hand side of my rucksack and a powerful one to see and be seen for the front, I was wondering whether there are any lighting options to illuminate from the side, like those valve cap led things, just as an extra precaution ?
13 August 2008, 12:24 PM
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you also don't need expensive clothing. a decent jacket yes decent shorts/bib yes and helmet though.
you don;t need to look like yr on a stage of the tour de france !!!!!
but a lot of the clothes from aldi and lidl on their special bike day sales are great.
I cycle all year round and best advice is to ignore any crap and hype from bike mags. layers and ventilation is the clue.
other top tip is mudguards are a must, ditto overshoes for rain/mud.
Kieran- honestly- £30/40 in aldi- you'd be sorted.
they were even doing cycling shoes with cleats for about £11. I got a pair and they've done me about 12 mths. bargain.
you don;t need to look like yr on a stage of the tour de france !!!!!
but a lot of the clothes from aldi and lidl on their special bike day sales are great.
I cycle all year round and best advice is to ignore any crap and hype from bike mags. layers and ventilation is the clue.
other top tip is mudguards are a must, ditto overshoes for rain/mud.
Kieran- honestly- £30/40 in aldi- you'd be sorted.
they were even doing cycling shoes with cleats for about £11. I got a pair and they've done me about 12 mths. bargain.
Cheers for the tip, I live very near Royles, a high end Cycle shop and to get kitted out in there is mad money, "all the gear and no idea" for a lot of the Wilmslow residents, there are a lot of proper cyclists but also a lot of money no object Toad of Toad Hall types, I saw a family spending 7 grand on Bikes and gear once in there !
No Aldi nearby though, how do you find out when they have the sales on, alterntively I suppose its Decathalon.
13 August 2008, 12:48 PM
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My God. Is this still going???? 
I'll come clean.... only 'cos I can't stand winding you lot up any further
The figure IS genuinely arrived at - for a given value of genuine...
It's a wireless receiver running at 2.4GHz which happens to be the same as the Bluetooth transmitters in my keyboard, mouse and laptop at work.
When I was changing the battery and setting the computer up (tyre size, time, date, my weight and age) the speedo went utterly wappy and ended up showing that first figure.
After demonstrating this to one of the guys in the office it then showed the second figure.
I couldn't help but take photos of these and let you all wonder just how the hell a pushbike could in fact exceed the national speed limit.
Now, if you all go back (now knowing what I did) and read the responses you will see what a complete and utter git I am.
I thank you
I'll come clean.... only 'cos I can't stand winding you lot up any further
The figure IS genuinely arrived at - for a given value of genuine...
It's a wireless receiver running at 2.4GHz which happens to be the same as the Bluetooth transmitters in my keyboard, mouse and laptop at work.
When I was changing the battery and setting the computer up (tyre size, time, date, my weight and age) the speedo went utterly wappy and ended up showing that first figure.
After demonstrating this to one of the guys in the office it then showed the second figure.
I couldn't help but take photos of these and let you all wonder just how the hell a pushbike could in fact exceed the national speed limit.
Now, if you all go back (now knowing what I did) and read the responses you will see what a complete and utter git I am.
I thank you
Les
13 August 2008, 01:23 PM
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Sipie, I will do the wet days but at the moment I have no gear whatsoever, I just wear some chav type pants, a work freebie t-shirt (Bright Orange SQL Server Superhero one) and a motorway maintenance yellow vest.
As Austin says, you don't need to spend a fortune....
14 August 2008, 09:36 PM
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Cheers for the tip, I live very near Royles, a high end Cycle shop and to get kitted out in there is mad money, "all the gear and no idea" for a lot of the Wilmslow residents, there are a lot of proper cyclists but also a lot of money no object Toad of Toad Hall types, I saw a family spending 7 grand on Bikes and gear once in there !
No Aldi nearby though, how do you find out when they have the sales on, alterntively I suppose its Decathalon.
No Aldi nearby though, how do you find out when they have the sales on, alterntively I suppose its Decathalon.
Go to ALDI - Home page and sign up for their weekly newsletter-u get email about once a week (funny enough
) telling you what the special offers are etc
14 August 2008, 09:42 PM
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15 August 2008, 10:09 AM
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15 August 2008, 10:12 AM
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SiPie - thanks for the great advice. I'll go looking shortly at what's available. There's a nip in the air at 7:30 now, so I need to sort out the layers fairly quickly.
Still, saying that it was a lovely ride back last night!
Oh J4CKO - I'm the same with the lights, I've posted what I will be getting for the front, and I'll be getting one of those Cateye triple rears which also have side lights as well
Still, saying that it was a lovely ride back last night!
Oh J4CKO - I'm the same with the lights, I've posted what I will be getting for the front, and I'll be getting one of those Cateye triple rears which also have side lights as well
15 August 2008, 11:49 AM
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Was your copper on a bike shouting "WEEWAHWEEWAH" as he chased you?
15 August 2008, 12:42 PM
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Why do car drivers make such a point of getting past before a corner, where invariably there is a car coming the other way, they get past, make up a few seconds and then I cruise past them at the junction they know they will have to wait at regardless, I swear I will end up inadvertently causing an accident because of some pillock having to get past so he can get to the queue first.
Had a woman (Posh spice glasses, orange skin) in an Audi A4 convertible (roof up) stop on double yellows and open her door on me, she got out, still on the phone, traffic all around outside Threshers, sunglasses on, I had anticipated this so I did some theatrical brake locking and made a point of not swerving and stopping in her door area just as she turned round, she shat herself, 6 ft, 16 stone dayglo mutant, snot like a Race Horse, Sunglasses, red faced and p1ssed off right in her personal space, I called her a dozy bitch and pedalled off.
I find I have a mental point scoring system with cars, Vans and Taxi's score 100 by default, 100 being the greatest likelyhood of them taking you off, anything else its a calculation based on the twatiness of the model and its owners, an A4 cab in Wilmslow isnt public enemy number 1 but its up there, X5's, RR sports, 206 CC and that kind of thing, there is probably an equation to explain it.
Had a woman (Posh spice glasses, orange skin) in an Audi A4 convertible (roof up) stop on double yellows and open her door on me, she got out, still on the phone, traffic all around outside Threshers, sunglasses on, I had anticipated this so I did some theatrical brake locking and made a point of not swerving and stopping in her door area just as she turned round, she shat herself, 6 ft, 16 stone dayglo mutant, snot like a Race Horse, Sunglasses, red faced and p1ssed off right in her personal space, I called her a dozy bitch and pedalled off.
I find I have a mental point scoring system with cars, Vans and Taxi's score 100 by default, 100 being the greatest likelyhood of them taking you off, anything else its a calculation based on the twatiness of the model and its owners, an A4 cab in Wilmslow isnt public enemy number 1 but its up there, X5's, RR sports, 206 CC and that kind of thing, there is probably an equation to explain it.
15 August 2008, 12:45 PM
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SiPie - thanks for the great advice. I'll go looking shortly at what's available. There's a nip in the air at 7:30 now, so I need to sort out the layers fairly quickly.
The best (and I really didn't appreciate it at the time !) cycling present my wife ever gave me was an indoor/outdoor thermometer similar to the one below....
I almost chucked it but thought I'd better use it to humour her.....Wireless Indoor / Outdoor Thermometer (EMR201) : Thermometer : Weather : Oregon Scientific
Now I rely on it totally to gauge the level of layers and it works a treat.....
I leave at roughly the same time as you in the morning (7.30ish) so in the winter, if the outdoor temp shows lower than -5 degrees I know it's balaclava time and full thermal gear, and in the summer, anything above 10degrees means it's t-shirt only time....
Obvioulsy doesn't take account of full wind chill factor as it's in quite a sheltered spot in the garden but I am seriously freaked about just how helpful this gadget has been over the last couple of years
15 August 2008, 02:10 PM
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Kieran
The best (and I really didn't appreciate it at the time !) cycling present my wife ever gave me was an indoor/outdoor thermometer similar to the one below.... I almost chucked it but thought I'd better use it to humour her.....
Wireless Indoor / Outdoor Thermometer (EMR201) : Thermometer : Weather : Oregon Scientific
Now I rely on it totally to gauge the level of layers and it works a treat.....
I leave at roughly the same time as you in the morning (7.30ish) so in the winter, if the outdoor temp shows lower than -5 degrees I know it's balaclava time and full thermal gear, and in the summer, anything above 10degrees means it's t-shirt only time....
Obvioulsy doesn't take account of full wind chill factor as it's in quite a sheltered spot in the garden but I am seriously freaked about just how helpful this gadget has been over the last couple of years
The best (and I really didn't appreciate it at the time !) cycling present my wife ever gave me was an indoor/outdoor thermometer similar to the one below....
I almost chucked it but thought I'd better use it to humour her.....Wireless Indoor / Outdoor Thermometer (EMR201) : Thermometer : Weather : Oregon Scientific
Now I rely on it totally to gauge the level of layers and it works a treat.....
I leave at roughly the same time as you in the morning (7.30ish) so in the winter, if the outdoor temp shows lower than -5 degrees I know it's balaclava time and full thermal gear, and in the summer, anything above 10degrees means it's t-shirt only time....
Obvioulsy doesn't take account of full wind chill factor as it's in quite a sheltered spot in the garden but I am seriously freaked about just how helpful this gadget has been over the last couple of years
Oh, and I've decided against the new bike. Just bought some 700x38c semi slicks and will fit them to my existing flat bar bike (Carrera Gryphon) which has a semi atb frame. Also got some Crud mudguards to fit as well. Oooh just checked - the 38's may not fit, bugger.
Next thing is the lights, and the proper winter gear for me
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well I've only managed to top my previous best of 37.5 by .1mph now 37.6 and apparently the top speed possible on a bike, due to the drag of the human body is 42 mph (according to a bloke in the office, who read it in the Times - so it must be true)
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from Wiki - "Fred Rompelberg (born 30 October 1945 in Maastricht) is a Dutch cyclist who has set several world cycling records. He is mainly known for his eleven world records cycling behind heavy engines, and for taking several attempts to break the Absolute World Speed Record Cycling. On 3 October 1995 he cycled behind a motor dragster on the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, with a speed of 268.831 kilometers an hour. This is still a world record, which is also stated in the Guinness Book of Records"
"behind heavy engines"......."behind a motor dragster" therefore cancelling out a good portion of the drag of the human body.
Anyone find the top speed of a cyclist to date without using either a) massive fairing or b) a vehicle of some sort to help with drag.
Neil
"behind heavy engines"......."behind a motor dragster" therefore cancelling out a good portion of the drag of the human body.
Anyone find the top speed of a cyclist to date without using either a) massive fairing or b) a vehicle of some sort to help with drag.
Neil
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