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Old 13 August 2008, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
I don't think 'tard has quite the same effect over here.

In the UK its far more acceptable to use the word.
not sure about that - in America it's the official and accepted term for mental impairment, in th UK it's only ever used as an insult.
Personally I find comparing someone to a person with disabilities is pretty low.
Old 13 August 2008, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
My kids still wonder what I mean when they fall over and I call them a complete spaz or mong
maybe because they've been taught in inclusive schools, and realise that talk like that is completely inappropriate.
hopefully they'll educate their dad
Old 13 August 2008, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pwhittle
Personally I find comparing someone to a person with disabilities is pretty low.
I think anyone right minded person would agree that genuine insults towards someone with disabilites, whatever they are is a bit off.
I think we have moved on a huge amount with regards to public attitude to severly handicapped people, and I suspect people like Joey Deacon have played abig part in that, as JACKO suggested.

If I call someone a "spaz" or "mong" I am not personally comparing them someone with diabilities, I am calling them a fecking eejit.
Old 13 August 2008, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pwhittle
maybe because they've been taught in inclusive schools, and realise that talk like that is completely inappropriate.
hopefully they'll educate their dad
fat chance of that happening sonny jim
Old 13 August 2008, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
If I call someone a "spaz" or "mong" I am not personally comparing them someone with diabilities, I am calling them a fecking eejit.
correct, when anyone I know or my kids are complete eejits, then they get called amongst other things, muppet and you plank.Now luckily they understand that I am not comparing them to a character out of Sesame Street or a bit of hardwood flooring
Old 13 August 2008, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
If I call someone a "spaz" or "mong" I am not personally comparing them someone with diabilities, I am calling them a fecking eejit.
and someone with a disability would understand your "personal comparison" then, seriously Brant where do you get off?
Old 13 August 2008, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by harry flatters
and someone with a disability would understand your "personal comparison" then, seriously Brant where do you get off?
Oh come on, they are general purpose insults that most people use who say them mean no disrespect to the disabled but it just slips out.

I have a mate with severe Cerebral Palsy who doesn't get bothered by such things, what he does get bothered about is people treating him like he is simple, robbing him cos he cant fight back, taxi drivers driving off when they see his chair, when you are living that every day the odd smartarse saying these words is fairly low on the agenda.

I remember a Downs Syndrome lad as a kid, used to tag along with us, on his BMX, which he had been given by his older brother, the brand of which was a Mongoose, and guess what, to personalise it, his brother removed the "oose" bit, which at the time we thought was hillarious, he didnt understand or care, he just wanted someone to play with.

So, my point is, these words will die out, in the meantime, dont get too hung up if I call you a Mong, I am not suggesting you have Downs Syndrome and dont consider that a slur anyway, its just me being born in 1970 and being a kid in the eighties, sometimes I forget, please forgive me for I am a Retard
Old 13 August 2008, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Oh come on, they are general purpose insults that most people use who say them mean no disrespect to the disabled but it just slips out.

I have a mate with severe Cerebral Palsy who doesn't get bothered by such things, what he does get bothered about is people treating him like he is simple, robbing him cos he cant fight back, taxi drivers driving off when they see his chair, when you are living that every day the odd smartarse saying these words is fairly low on the agenda.

I remember a Downs Syndrome lad as a kid, used to tag along with us, on his BMX, which he had been given by his older brother, the brand of which was a Mongoose, and guess what, to personalise it, his brother removed the "oose" bit, which at the time we thought was hillarious, he didnt understand or care, he just wanted someone to play with.

So, my point is, these words will die out, in the meantime, dont get too hung up if I call you a Mong, I am not suggesting you have Downs Syndrome and dont consider that a slur anyway, its just me being born in 1970 and being a kid in the eighties, sometimes I forget, please forgive me for I am a Retard
Because your mate says nothing doesn't mean he approves of you using that type of language, in fact it shows a complete lack of moral fibre for you to even consider using it in front of people with disabilities.

But carry on justifying it's use, it seems that you're doing a lot of that recently and I'm not sure who you're trying to convince more. I do wonder if your children were mentally or physically disabled you would fine it as entertaining.
Old 13 August 2008, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by harry flatters
Because your mate says nothing doesn't mean he approves of you using that type of language, in fact it shows a complete lack of moral fibre for you to even consider using it in front of people with disabilities.

But carry on justifying it's use, it seems that you're doing a lot of that recently and I'm not sure who you're trying to convince more. I do wonder if your children were mentally or physically disabled you would fine it as entertaining.


Ok, will never use it again, I am suitably humbled and chastened, are the following acceptable, just so I know, will I offend anyone other than then intended recipient of the insult,

****, W4nker, Tosser, Arsehole, ******** ?

As for recently, you must have lurked for a long time or been using another name ?
Old 13 August 2008, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Ok, will never use it again, I am suitably humbled and chastened, are the following acceptable, just so I know, will I offend anyone other than then intended recipient of the insult,

****, W4nker, Tosser, Arsehole, ******** ?

As for recently, you must have lurked for a long time or been using another name ?
Pathetic, really pathetic.

Recently as in 'this thread', is that clear enough for you?
Old 13 August 2008, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pwhittle
not sure about that - in America it's the official and accepted term for mental impairment, in th UK it's only ever used as an insult.
Personally I find comparing someone to a person with disabilities is pretty low.
Yep. Remember seeing a Christmas episode of OCC where they visited some kids in a place declaring itself as a "home for retarded children" and thinking it wouldn't fly over here.
Old 13 August 2008, 07:00 PM
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I am not getting into a slanging match, it doesn't interest me.

It takes a special, extra helping of politically correct left wingedness to make Pete seem like a Bad Guy.
Old 13 August 2008, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by harry flatters
Pathetic, really pathetic.

Recently as in 'this thread', is that clear enough for you?
Have a word with yourself, you are not fooling anyone with this 2nd rate act
Old 13 August 2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by harry flatters
and someone with a disability would understand your "personal comparison" then, seriously Brant where do you get off?
You seem to have entirely missed the point of my post. Strange, as others seemed to manage it, you spaz.
Old 13 August 2008, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
You seem to have entirely missed the point of my post. Strange, as others seemed to manage it, you spaz.
The same "others" that also think it's acceptable to be derogatory to people with disabilities, well done, pat yourself on the back, your mother would be so proud of you!
Old 13 August 2008, 07:55 PM
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it was windowlickers when i was younger!

or the sunshine bus brigade
Old 13 August 2008, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by harry flatters
The same "others" that also think it's acceptable to be derogatory to people with disabilities, well done, pat yourself on the back, your mother would be so proud of you!
I don't think anyone here thinks its acceptable to be derogatory, discriminate or attack people with disabilities. I certainly don't. You are confusing the use of a word, in an entirely different context, to how it was possibly used by some ***** in the 70's.

In Pete's Urban Dictionary©, the meaning of "spaz" is: Fecking eejit - Jovial pisstake for when someone does something silly.

That's it, it has no connection, whatsoever in my mind to people with disabilities. I mean, if I call someone ****, I also think they are being a fecking eejit. I am not comparing them in any way to a clitoris.
Old 13 August 2008, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by harry flatters
The same "others" that also think it's acceptable to be derogatory to people with disabilities, well done, pat yourself on the back, your mother would be so proud of you!
Flatty - If you do not like it do not read it or read more into it than was actually meant - it could be construed as trolling

SN is not compulsary or even real life, if it offends or upsets then leave it be and get on with yours

Horse and saddle harry you spaz!
Old 13 August 2008, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
I don't think anyone here thinks its acceptable to be derogatory, discriminate or attack people with disabilities. I certainly don't. You are confusing the use of a word, in an entirely different context, to how it was possibly used by some ***** in the 70's.

In Pete's Urban Dictionary©, the meaning of "spaz" is: Fecking eejit - Jovial pisstake for when someone does something silly.

That's it, it has no connection, whatsoever in my mind to people with disabilities. I mean, if I call someone ****, I also think they are being a fecking eejit. I am not comparing them in any way to a clitoris.
I was about to post something along them lines
Old 13 August 2008, 08:08 PM
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I must admit, I'm with Pete on this one. There are loads of words now commonly used, which are meant in a totally different way to their original meaning. I for one don't believe Pete is the type of person to use such words mentioned here in any way to belittle or insult someone who is disabled. It's just how our language and use of it has changed over the years.

It's much the same as calling someone a ****, it's nothing to do with original meaning, just a plain old insult now.

I'm not going to say whether I agree or disagree with the use of certain words, that's not me, but I certainly understand, how in this day and age, many words are used, but in a different way, often not associated at all with their original meaning.
Old 13 August 2008, 08:31 PM
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Like B@STARD is a common word that people don't really associate with it's original meaning..now lets all just chill and drink some Malibu.


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I'd rather not drink with this bunch of spazzers
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Originally Posted by harry flatters
I'd rather not drink with this bunch of spazzers
You cant say that
Old 13 August 2008, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by harry flatters
I'd rather not drink with this bunch of spazzers
Might as well go down in flames I suppose.
Old 13 August 2008, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by harry flatters
The same "others" that also think it's acceptable to be derogatory to people with disabilities, well done, pat yourself on the back, your mother would be so proud of you!

Bit like having a location that said something on the lines of you waiting for people to not be able to afford their houses so you could buy them cheap.

Oh your banned, sorry. I can't work out why.

Being 'super rich' isn't worth much on the internet is it?
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What a fooking big nosed ugly f uck, and I only say that in the nicest possible way - No offence intended.
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Originally Posted by pwhittle
not sure about that - in America it's the official and accepted term for mental impairment, in th UK it's only ever used as an insult.
Personally I find comparing someone to a person with disabilities is pretty low.
Is that cos you is a gay retard spazzer?

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I just watched Tropic Thunder and it is funny in a Ben Stiller kind of way.

Tom Cruise and Robery Downey Jr are good.

TROPIC THUNDER

Steve
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I though Cruise was the star of the film, but RD jr was hillariious

Well worth a watch
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Ok, will never use it again, I am suitably humbled and chastened, are the following acceptable, just so I know, will I offend anyone other than then intended recipient of the insult,

****, W4nker, Tosser, Arsehole, ******** ?
Please don't use the term w4nker as an insult J4cko, it's a terrible affliction I've had to suffer with for a number of years and despite loving support and joining several self help groups, I can't shake off the condition (no matter how hard I try).


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