Can you paint your side of a neighbour's garden fence?
19 August 2008, 06:27 PM
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LOL @ ^ and >
Going off topic for a moment - the 3 bed semi we had last with the **** of a fireman and his bint of a partner (both prev. divorced surprise surprise) wasn't very sound proof and every morning we heard slimeball and fatar$e scraping the legs of their chairs in the kitchen tiles whilst maneouvering in and out of the table. Annoyed the t!ts out of us - so - cunning plan.
I knew the postie well and he knew how much of a to$$er this **** was so he agreed to post a packet through his letterbox for us. It was addressed to us with an invoice from 'floormaster Ltd' printed to our address knowing that $h!te face would open it.
Inside the packet also was a packet of those felt sticky tile protectors for the bottom of the legs of chairs in all different sizes.
Didn't hear a peep out of those F****ng chairs again
Cheer up Tel - always 2 ways to skin a cat
I knew the postie well and he knew how much of a to$$er this **** was so he agreed to post a packet through his letterbox for us. It was addressed to us with an invoice from 'floormaster Ltd' printed to our address knowing that $h!te face would open it.
Inside the packet also was a packet of those felt sticky tile protectors for the bottom of the legs of chairs in all different sizes.
Didn't hear a peep out of those F****ng chairs again
Cheer up Tel - always 2 ways to skin a cat
)? Stain remover, pain killers or a rope? or, 3 of them together? 
90 quid in 1p coins will be quite amusing too, I think
Tel, next time you fancy paining a garden fence, email me. I could do with someone to pain mine
19 August 2008, 07:28 PM
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Amazing post.
I could not go on living next to someone as bloody minded and petty as he is.
Even when the episode was over with, I could not forget it, and it would play on my mind......eating away, until the next petty confrontation ( however trivial ).....and BANG.......I would end up doing time for him.
Then as I have learnt before 'He has won, and you have lost'.
Although it does feel good at the time.....but once the red mist has settled and the Police arrive, reality kicks in.
I pity your predicament.
I could not go on living next to someone as bloody minded and petty as he is.
Even when the episode was over with, I could not forget it, and it would play on my mind......eating away, until the next petty confrontation ( however trivial ).....and BANG.......I would end up doing time for him.
Then as I have learnt before 'He has won, and you have lost'.
Although it does feel good at the time.....but once the red mist has settled and the Police arrive, reality kicks in.
I pity your predicament.
19 August 2008, 09:33 PM
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Cheers yoza, yes it's sooo tempting to think of all the acts of retribution i could commit, but ultimately, as you say, once reality kicks in, you're the one with an awful lot to lose if you're caught. But there's no way i will let this rest. It might take time, but i'll get my £90's worth in some shape or form.
Midlife, no he doesn't have to prove anything, apart from the fact it has been painted. If it's somebody else's property, you can't do a damn thing to it. Nothing. Regardless of whether it's visible to the owner or not. If that serves as a warning to others, then some good will have come out of this utterly ludicrous situation.
Midlife, no he doesn't have to prove anything, apart from the fact it has been painted. If it's somebody else's property, you can't do a damn thing to it. Nothing. Regardless of whether it's visible to the owner or not. If that serves as a warning to others, then some good will have come out of this utterly ludicrous situation.
19 August 2008, 11:37 PM
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Surely his action for restitution will fail because you have not damaged anything... I'm not a lawyer but would not the courts see this as vexatious litigation ?
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Surely his action for restitution will fail because you have not damaged anything... I'm not a lawyer but would not the courts see this as vexatious litigation ?
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20 August 2008, 08:19 AM
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Well i'm no expert, Shaun, but as far as i'm aware, the law is black and white for a reason - to prevent any ambiguities in these sorts of cases and therefore cut court time in reaching a decision. In the eye of the law, even if i had painted the gate in *exactly* the colour he wanted, if i hadn't asked permission beforehand, he could still have threatened me with court action, as you cannot touch a fence which isn't yours, in any way. You can't paint it, change it, you can't even attach anything to it, unless the owner gives prior permission.
As i've mentioned, the only possibility is offering to re-paint it. He will without a shadow of a doubt respond that the colour i have painted it will affect the colour he wants it, and that therefore the offer will be declined. I would then hope that a court would dismiss any claim because a reasonable offer to resolve the problem has been made, but we just don't want to get into any contact whatsoever with the ***** or his stupid girlfriend.
In any case, we sent a letter yesterday with a cheque, explaining that any disruption/damage caused by his builders - previously tolerated - will be officially logged and claimed for.
We're also looking into the possibility of restricting the hours of access across the property. Last night, builders were plastering the kitchen till about 10.30pm, and had to leave via the side alley. Just unbelievable. You do NOT want the possibility of strangers walking across your property at that time of night, it's just not on. So we're investigating whether we can specify what hours that access is available. As you can imagine, this is "fun" we'd rather not be having. The spectre of moving was discussed in some detail last night. If things don't calm down, it might become a realistic possibility. Bullied out of your own home, WTF?
As i've mentioned, the only possibility is offering to re-paint it. He will without a shadow of a doubt respond that the colour i have painted it will affect the colour he wants it, and that therefore the offer will be declined. I would then hope that a court would dismiss any claim because a reasonable offer to resolve the problem has been made, but we just don't want to get into any contact whatsoever with the ***** or his stupid girlfriend.
In any case, we sent a letter yesterday with a cheque, explaining that any disruption/damage caused by his builders - previously tolerated - will be officially logged and claimed for.
We're also looking into the possibility of restricting the hours of access across the property. Last night, builders were plastering the kitchen till about 10.30pm, and had to leave via the side alley. Just unbelievable. You do NOT want the possibility of strangers walking across your property at that time of night, it's just not on. So we're investigating whether we can specify what hours that access is available. As you can imagine, this is "fun" we'd rather not be having. The spectre of moving was discussed in some detail last night. If things don't calm down, it might become a realistic possibility. Bullied out of your own home, WTF?
20 August 2008, 08:29 AM
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We wern't exactly bullied from our last home Tel.
The decision was taken by my wife for this reason. We had then, a two year old daughter (now 3) and the idiot next door got himself a dug. (a gay dug at that) and he walked it past our livingroom window 4 times daily.
Our daughter wanted to clap the aforementioned dug and we decided that - how do you tell your daughter that she can't clap the dug cos its owner was a "bad man"
Decision made in the blink of an eyelid. Never looked back.
BTW he moved 2 weeks after we did. (house repo apparently)
5 years we tolerated bigotry (football flags all around his garden when the for sale sign went up for example)
As it turns out - he did us a favour.
The decision was taken by my wife for this reason. We had then, a two year old daughter (now 3) and the idiot next door got himself a dug. (a gay dug at that) and he walked it past our livingroom window 4 times daily.
Our daughter wanted to clap the aforementioned dug and we decided that - how do you tell your daughter that she can't clap the dug cos its owner was a "bad man"
Decision made in the blink of an eyelid. Never looked back.
BTW he moved 2 weeks after we did. (house repo apparently)
5 years we tolerated bigotry (football flags all around his garden when the for sale sign went up for example)
As it turns out - he did us a favour.
20 August 2008, 08:59 AM
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When he's cashed your cheque, the gate then officially belongs to you. If he does ANYTHING to it then you can turn the tables on him!
Or you could simply take it off and burn it!
Or Paint whatever you want on the gate!
Or if he removes the gate and puts a new one up, if he doesn't give you the original gate, its theft!
Hmmm, the more I think about it, the more I think paying him the £90 was the best thing to do.
Did you mention earlier he was doing work on the house with the intent of selling? When its on the market, get a friend to make a sure fire wining offer on his house, then string him along for months before pulling out at the last minute. That will really pi$$ him off!
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Or you could simply take it off and burn it!
Or Paint whatever you want on the gate!
Or if he removes the gate and puts a new one up, if he doesn't give you the original gate, its theft!
Hmmm, the more I think about it, the more I think paying him the £90 was the best thing to do.
Did you mention earlier he was doing work on the house with the intent of selling? When its on the market, get a friend to make a sure fire wining offer on his house, then string him along for months before pulling out at the last minute. That will really pi$$ him off!
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20 August 2008, 09:38 AM
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When he's cashed your cheque, the gate then officially belongs to you. If he does ANYTHING to it then you can turn the tables on him!
Or you could simply take it off and burn it!
Or Paint whatever you want on the gate!
Or if he removes the gate and puts a new one up, if he doesn't give you the original gate, its theft!
Hmmm, the more I think about it, the more I think paying him the £90 was the best thing to do.
Did you mention earlier he was doing work on the house with the intent of selling? When its on the market, get a friend to make a sure fire wining offer on his house, then string him along for months before pulling out at the last minute. That will really pi$$ him off!
Waggy
Or you could simply take it off and burn it!
Or Paint whatever you want on the gate!
Or if he removes the gate and puts a new one up, if he doesn't give you the original gate, its theft!
Hmmm, the more I think about it, the more I think paying him the £90 was the best thing to do.
Did you mention earlier he was doing work on the house with the intent of selling? When its on the market, get a friend to make a sure fire wining offer on his house, then string him along for months before pulling out at the last minute. That will really pi$$ him off!
Waggy
20 August 2008, 09:47 AM
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Here's a nice link for you mate: Cherwell District Council - At what time is building work allowed?
fairly clear methinks. You may want to check with your own Local Authority
fairly clear methinks. You may want to check with your own Local Authority
20 August 2008, 09:51 AM
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Well, here's a different perspective (FWIW!! )
Putting aside the officious little hitler, and your (albeit unintentional) "criminal damage"
There's one little thing people have missed (unless I missed it!) - the neighbour is renovating with a view to selling up!!!!
FWIW, pay the £90 or come to an agreement (by potentially eating some humble pie), and wait for the sale....
Bear in mind that that the season's going to change soon, and neighbours don't tend to see too much of each other during the Autumn/Winter months - especially if you're leaving and getting home in the dark.....
Just a thought really - smooth things over and bide your time. He could be gone soon (hopefully)
)Putting aside the officious little hitler, and your (albeit unintentional) "criminal damage"
There's one little thing people have missed (unless I missed it!) - the neighbour is renovating with a view to selling up!!!!
FWIW, pay the £90 or come to an agreement (by potentially eating some humble pie), and wait for the sale....
Bear in mind that that the season's going to change soon, and neighbours don't tend to see too much of each other during the Autumn/Winter months - especially if you're leaving and getting home in the dark.....
Just a thought really - smooth things over and bide your time. He could be gone soon (hopefully)
20 August 2008, 09:54 AM
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Waggy, that's an excellent suggestion, you see i'm obviously just not devious enough! My fear is, however, that the reduction in the house's price will mean any potential sale will be postponed.
When he's replaced the gate, i will guarantee you ANY money you like that the "ruined" one will be put on our side of the boundary in order for us to dispose of. Guarantee it. If it wasn't in view of children, i'd be sorely tempted to leave it there for a few weeks with "Small dicked ****" emblazoned across it for him to enjoy, but sadly that's not an option. A ceremonial burning is an option, although i hate to see a perfectly good gate go to waste.
When he's replaced the gate, i will guarantee you ANY money you like that the "ruined" one will be put on our side of the boundary in order for us to dispose of. Guarantee it. If it wasn't in view of children, i'd be sorely tempted to leave it there for a few weeks with "Small dicked ****" emblazoned across it for him to enjoy, but sadly that's not an option. A ceremonial burning is an option, although i hate to see a perfectly good gate go to waste.
20 August 2008, 09:56 AM
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Here's a nice link for you mate: Cherwell District Council - At what time is building work allowed?
fairly clear methinks. You may want to check with your own Local Authority
fairly clear methinks. You may want to check with your own Local Authority
20 August 2008, 10:00 AM
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if you get the gate you could always sell it on ebay if you post its history. probably go for a few hundred, Maybe scoobynet could buy it and use it as emblem somehow
Once advertised, give your tw@t of a neighbour a link
Once advertised, give your tw@t of a neighbour a link
20 August 2008, 10:01 AM
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Hi Tel, just caught up with this as I've been on holiday but IMHO you made the mistake (albeit with the greatest of intentions) and should therefore put it right in order to stay within the law which I gather from speed reading the thread is what you have done 
The bigger problem is what to do now as no-one can live next to an idiot like that and remain sane. We had dreadful neighbours at our old house and in the end sold up and moved half a mile down the road, our neighbours now are all excellent. For us the decision was easy as we didn't like the street or the house that we lived in. Ironically just after we moved our neighbours from hell also moved out!
As far as this idiot goes let the dust settle for a while so that you can think about what to do without the emotions kicking in. Try and be patient, the situation may resolve itself, in any case revenge is a dish best served cold
Good luck
The bigger problem is what to do now as no-one can live next to an idiot like that and remain sane. We had dreadful neighbours at our old house and in the end sold up and moved half a mile down the road, our neighbours now are all excellent. For us the decision was easy as we didn't like the street or the house that we lived in. Ironically just after we moved our neighbours from hell also moved out!
As far as this idiot goes let the dust settle for a while so that you can think about what to do without the emotions kicking in. Try and be patient, the situation may resolve itself, in any case revenge is a dish best served cold
Good luck
20 August 2008, 10:07 AM
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Hope you said in the letter you were buying the gate off him? If so and it gets broken send the same snotty letter £90 for your gate that he has broken thanks m'lud
If you didn't specify and it does end up on your side of the fence (whole or in bits) i would speak to the council about it and have him stung for tipping/dumping on your land.
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20 August 2008, 12:19 PM
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We avoid him, and he avoids us. To be honest if i had known it was such a potential problem i wouldn't have gone near it, but i didn't realise it was actually illegal to paint your side of a neighbour's fence, i had no idea. We thought we were doing everybody a favour by making it look neater, but oh no, wrong fekkin colour.
Thats my tuppences worth.
20 August 2008, 01:23 PM
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Avoiding neighbours and the discomfort anger and all the other 'things' it generates is just a waste of energy. Just do the BIG thing and try and make a friend of him. Yes a friend. I don't suppose you'll get that far, but if you make some steps towards it life will be sooo much easier. Just try.
Thats my tuppences worth.
Thats my tuppences worth.
We moved partly because we needed a bigger house, partly because of our neighbours. We tried to be nice and accept the usual disagreements over fencing and plants/tress growing over the border and made sure that we fix anything (including providing half the cost of their new fence), but it just went on every time. In the end we ended up not talking to them and then moved.
When we sold the house, you have to declare your disputes now, although none were official (I tried to make sure it never escalated to that point precisly because they have to be declared on a sale). The retired gent who brought our house was aparently not bothered, and himself looked the type to make sure the law was stuck too and quite capable of taking things to the small claims courts (and possibly nothing else to do with his time).
About 6 months later I visited some other people in the street and found out that the old horrible neighbours had burnt down their own fence (the new one) and the old gents shed (my old one that was falling down when we brought the place). Turns out he took them to court and involved the police as there were dangerous chemicals in the garden and the fire got out of hand (fire service involved etc), plus made them pay for landscaping his garden that had been burnt/washed out and a new shed (as well as not paying for the fence to be replaced). There is justice after all.
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20 August 2008, 01:35 PM
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Avoiding neighbours and the discomfort anger and all the other 'things' it generates is just a waste of energy. Just do the BIG thing and try and make a friend of him. Yes a friend. I don't suppose you'll get that far, but if you make some steps towards it life will be sooo much easier. Just try.
Thats my tuppences worth.
Thats my tuppences worth.
Appreciate the sentiment, but it just isn't going to happen. If he'd knocked on the door rather than hand-posting an extremely aggressive letter within about 12 hours of seeing the gate, i'd have had more respect. I want nothing at all to do with either of them in any capacity ever again. I'm not befriending a **** for anyone's benefit, least of all my own.
20 August 2008, 07:35 PM
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It is nothing to do with idiots, unfairness or spite.
Ignore the ramblings of a partisan rabble.
See sense, you painted a fence neither on your land, in your boundary or belonging to you. Best thing you can do is to compensate the party involved or return the gate to its former state. LOL @ some of the comments here, dimwits...
Ignore the ramblings of a partisan rabble.
See sense, you painted a fence neither on your land, in your boundary or belonging to you. Best thing you can do is to compensate the party involved or return the gate to its former state. LOL @ some of the comments here, dimwits...
20 August 2008, 09:11 PM
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It is nothing to do with idiots, unfairness or spite.
Ignore the ramblings of a partisan rabble.
See sense, you painted a fence neither on your land, in your boundary or belonging to you. Best thing you can do is to compensate the party involved or return the gate to its former state. LOL @ some of the comments here, dimwits...
Ignore the ramblings of a partisan rabble.
See sense, you painted a fence neither on your land, in your boundary or belonging to you. Best thing you can do is to compensate the party involved or return the gate to its former state. LOL @ some of the comments here, dimwits...
Wow. Who's the regular hiding behind an alias?
Who thinks we should all just hit the big red X
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